What Grinds your Gears, part 2

I dunno if being in development 5 months from release is all that bad though lol

Correct me if I'm wrong, but IIRC, most games don't even go gold until like a month or so from actual release

Perhaps they're just putting on the finishing touches for the game
 
Idk.Metal.. I just don't know.


@Sky valley

I always have people saying be happy is being made... No... Why would I be happy if something I invested time and money into (from a consumer standpoint) is being Imo done incorrectly? They have westernised this game to the point it's not even true to it's source material. Because if it was then "Young Dante" would be called Tony Redgrave.

slower or not, it still looks like a hack in slash type game to me. What the previous games were.
They could have turned it into a whole new genre.

Be thankfull for that, just saying broseph.

They way it plays is only part of it though. The gameplay can be great, but if the story is crap it's not gonna do very well. I'd be more inclined to except the Reboot or Remake excuse if it is was they say it is and from what myself and others have seen it's not it is a game that shares names with a popular franchise and nothing else.
 
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They way it plays is only part of it though. The gameplay can be great, but if the story is crap it's not gonna do very well.
Vehemently disagree with this part.

As a video game, how the gameplay is handled is paramount to every other priority including story. If people think that the gameplay isn't good, then chances are the game isn't going to do well, even if every other element like visuals, extras or story is done right. After all, games are meant to be enjoyed by playing them, right?

While I personally agree that gameplay isn't the only aspect of a game that should be done right, I feel that the gameplay must be done right before anything else not only because of the obvious, but because I see the game and its gameplay as the gateway to enjoying a much larger experience from the game. If I enjoy the gameplay of a game, then I feel that allows and encourages me to not only enjoy but appreciate the finer elements of the game that I explore such as visuals and story, therefore I become fully immersed into what the game has to offer. However, if I don't have that basic connection to the game and its universe, if I don't enjoy the gameplay, then chances are I won't be able to enjoy the other aspects of the game either, or at least not as much as I could have if the opposite were to hold true.

I think I went off on my own tangent there lol sorry about that, but do you see what I'm saying? From what I gather, if this DmC reboot really does retain the tried-and-true gameplay formula of the past few games, then it's doing exactly what it's supposed to be doing as a reboot. It's taking the established formula and moving it into a new direction. You may not like this change of direction, but since that is how the developers of the game decided to interpret things, you don't have to like the decision but you should at least respect it and not immediately write off the game as just a "game that only shares the name of what I've come to know".
 
I hate the way Metal argues.


"Vehemently disagree"
Mother funker why? Going Dictionary Rambo when you usually talk about giving Vital head.
 
AMES, why are you shitting on a game you haven't even played yet? I mean, this is like the whole Prototype 2 argument you had before. You can't sit there and complain about a game that you haven't even played yet, let alone isn't even finished being made yet.

They made changes, so what? I know you like the same shit over and over and over again (see: GoW series), but a change can sometimes be a really good thing.


Everyone was ready to blow their brains out over RE4 because of the changes and it turned out a lot of people liked it a lot after they played it.


Give it a chance before you crap on it, AMES. I can understand people being a bit upset when things about their favorite characters change, but you have to remember that it's also an alt universe as well.


Vergil looks about the same to me and I really like the way the new Dante looks. Just play it, then judge it.


I bet you will be one of the people who will blow your load over how awesome it turns out, if it does.
 
Meh, I really don't care for this reboot, its lost the feel of DMC. Everything just seems super generic now. The gameplay might be 'similar' (in the way that DMC and bayonetta's gameplay are similar) but it really has just lost the feel of DMC.

That being said, i'll still buy it, it could be a good game, but the chances of it being a good DMC game are slim.
 
I'm one that can deal with game reboots, I know some people will give me shit for this, but I'd love to see a new interpetation of Zelda.
Skyward Sword was decent, but really didnt do all that much for me and it was kinda generic.

I wouldnt mind a future themed or steampunk zelda game with a different take on Link. I mean I'll always want to eventually come back to the traditional style dont get me wrong, but seeing a new take on it would mean alot to me cause it shows you how far the series has come and how legendary the series is to be told in new perspectives.


I was actually pissed when I first saw images of Wind Waker when they made it like a cartoon,
but I got over it when I actually played it and enjoyed it.
 
AMES, lol, you keep thanking every wall of text I make towards you like they were useful to you

But almost every single time soon afterwards, you get into the exact same type of argument you just had with like the same 3 people you always argue with

Every time

No offense lol but that grinds my gears
 
^I've actually always wanted to see a grittier Mario game. It'll never happen unless its a fan game, but I want a realistic Mario with a plumbing wrench as a weapon.


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AMES, lol, you keep thanking every wall of text I make towards you like they were useful to you

But almost every single time soon afterwards, you get into the exact same type of argument you just had with like the same 3 people you always argue with

Every time

No offense lol but that grinds my gears

they can be usefull though, maybe he respects your post cause it was worded very well, except disagrees with what is being said. Not a problem.

^I've actually always wanted to see a grittier Mario game. It'll never happen unless its a fan game, but I want a realistic Mario with a plumbing wrench as a weapon


not exactly going for gritty, I just like to see something that really makes you look at it in a whole new way.
 
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Sky lol I don't mind him just thanking my posts, it just slightly grinds my gears because I feel like I'm just repeating myself at times
 
AMES thanks just about every post I own him in, lol.


You're a funny dude sometimes, Amesie.
 
Meh, I really don't care for this reboot, its lost the feel of DMC. Everything just seems super generic now. The gameplay might be 'similar' (in the way that DMC and bayonetta's gameplay are similar) but it really has just lost the feel of DMC.

That being said, i'll still buy it, it could be a good game, but the chances of it being a good DMC game are slim.

It's basically how Resident Evil 5 is.
 
AMES, why are you shitting on a game you haven't even played yet? I mean, this is like the whole Prototype 2 argument you had before. You can't sit there and complain about a game that you haven't even played yet, let alone isn't even finished being made yet.

And why can't I? I've seen nothing to tell me these characters are Dante and Vergil Outside of their names. I have said it a few times that I want this game to be good, but from what I have to go off of and Ninja Theory's track record I have no faith in what they can do. And if I am wrong I'd gladly say so, but as of now I see nothing telling me to give them A chance.

Jade said:
They made changes, so what? I know you like the same shit over and over and over again (see: GoW series), but a change can sometimes be a really good thing.

That's a pretty bold statement Considering I not only want good reasonable Change to God of War. I have said many times that I want them to add to the story and give me a game that is longer then 10hrs instead of multiplayer. Do I want them to Change Kratos into a more likable character? No.. Why? Because, changing Kratos into a wise cracking talkative character would remove the tense feel of not only his character, but the world and it's story(for me). But if they wanted to make him a more sympathetic understandable human being like in God of War Ascension. Then I'm all for that, because in the end of god of war 3. You see Kratos not as a God, a solider or a murderer, but as a broken man that want's nothing more then to be with his wife and daughter again.

If they where to reboot it and make it a game from the point of view of his Brother Deimos and they wanted him to be a smart ass then that's fine with me. In-fact I think that would be one way to change it into something different and I like that Idea even though in GOS he was a Very serious character.

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Everyone was ready to blow their brains out over RE4 because of the changes and it turned out a lot of people liked it a lot after they played it. Give it a chance before you crap on it, AMES. I can understand people being a bit upset when things about their favorite characters change, but you have to remember that it's also an alt universe as well.

No it's not an Alt universe. Ninja Theory has changed what it is so many times. They are saying this is a reboot now. I'm not mad at how they look I'm upset at how detached they seem to be from who the Characters are. Change is all fine 'n' good but leave something in the characters So people like myself have a way to make a connection from the reboot to what they were. I'd be more inclined to except their changes if I had something that showed me this is Vergil outside of his name and him having yamato.

jade said:
Vergil looks about the same to me and I really like the way the new Dante looks. Just play it, then judge it.

and to me they don't. I'm not really bothered by the changes to their look. I'm bothered by How drastically they have/had changed both Dante and Vergil's personalities.

I bet you will be one of the people who will blow your load over how awesome it turns out, if it does.

Nope.. I pretty much think what I think and it would take a lot to change my mind on this.

AMES, lol, you keep thanking every wall of text I make towards you like they were useful to you

But almost every single time soon afterwards, you get into the exact same type of argument you just had with like the same 3 people you always argue with

Every time

No offense lol but that grinds my gears

I do it so you see that even though I may not agree with you completely. I still see what you're saying and above all else I think you made good points on the importance of gameplay and how it effects the over acceptance of a title.

I'm still playing Darksiders 2 for that very reason.
 
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And why can't I? I've seen nothing to tell me these characters are Dante and Vergil Outside of their names. I have said it a few times that I want this game to be good, but from what I have to go off of and Ninja Theory's track record I have no faith in what they can do. And if I am wrong I'd gladly say so, but as of now I see nothing telling me to give them A chance.

Have you played the game?

Have you gone through the story and understood why they are the way they are now?

Do you understand that this is an ALT UNIVERSE?

Do you not get how Vergil in particular looks very similar to the Vergil everyone is accustomed to?

Grasping at straws, AMES. You know fck all about the game, besides a few 'teasers', yet you go ahead and judge the entire game.

I believe there is even a part where Dante's hair goes white. Oh, wait, that would be like the old Dante, which he is obviously nothing like at all, right?


That's a pretty bold statement Considering I not only want good reasonable Change to God of War. I have said many times that I want them to add to the story and give me a game that is longer then 10hrs instead of multiplayer. Do I want them to Change Kratos into a more likable character? No.. Why? Because, changing Kratos into a wise cracking talkative character would remove the tense feel of not only his character, but the world and it's story(for me). But if they wanted to make him a more sympathetic understandable human being like in God of War Ascension. Then I'm all for that, because in the end of god of war 3. You see Kratos not as a God, a solider or a murderer, but as a broken man that want's nothing more then to be with his wife and daughter again.

If they where to reboot it and make it a game from the point of view of his Brother Deimos and they wanted him to be a smart ass then that's fine with me. In-fact I think that would be one way to change it into something different and I like that Idea even though in GOS he was a Very serious character.

The joke went COMPLETELY over your head, AMES. I will leave it at that.



No it's not an Alt universe. Ninja Theory has changed what it is so many times. They are saying this is a reboot now. I'm not mad at how they look I'm upset at how detached they seem to be from who the Characters are. Change is all fine 'n' good but leave something in the characters So people like myself have a way to make a connection from the reboot to what they were. I'd be more inclined to except their changes if I had something that showed me this is Vergil outside of his name and him having yamato.

See, you don't even know what you are talking about. They stated IT IS AN ALT UNIVERSE (actually, I should say 'alternate reality').

and to me they don't. I'm not really bothered by the changes to their look. I'm bothered by How drastically they have/had changed both Dante and Vergil's personalities.


....seriously? What part of Vergil is so drastically different? Did you even look at the pictures I posted? He has a different outfit, though it is still the long coat design, and his hair is less Dragonball Z.

Dante looks different because of the alt reality he is in. Again, I am almost certain at one point in the game, he regains his white hair.



Nope.. I pretty much think what I think and it would take a lot to change my mind on this.

That's because you are one of those ignorant people who judge things before you even experience them.

This game is obviously going to suck because....oh, wait, you haven't played it yet.


Come on, man....
 
Do I want them to Change Kratos into a more likable character? No.. Why? Because, changing Kratos into a wise cracking talkative character would remove the tense feel of not only his character, but the world and it's story(for me).
A character doesn't have to be a jokester to be considered likeable.

Why not make them likeable, anyway? If your protagonist isn't likeable, then why are you making the character a protagonist in the first place? The whole point of making someone a protagonist in a story is to make them likeable enough so that we can root for them and identify with their struggles in some way
 
Jade, Ames has said multiple times that he doesn't care about Vergil's appearence....


lol, what is with people thinking I sit here and read everything posted all day long? I didn't know he said it 'multiple times'. I read again and noticed he did say it once here. I misread it, my bad, but I still consider looks as part of a 'drastic change' in a character. If he said it in some other convo, I didn't see it.
 
lol, what is with people thinking I sit here and read everything posted all day long? I didn't know he said it 'multiple times'. I read again and noticed he did say it once here. I misread it, my bad, but I still consider looks as part of a 'drastic change' in a character. If he said it in some other convo, I didn't see it.

I was just sayin'.

What is it with people thinking that I think that they sit there and read everything posted all day long?
 
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