Mortal Kombat Arcade Kollection Patch NOT Coming Today [UPDATED With Patch Notes]

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TerryMasters said:
I'd like to take this moment to "expose" TRMK and Pat for being unfathomably lenient with people who should have been gone long ago.
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Could that be because Patrick has broken one of his own rules on the original post on this very thread?

Patrick McCarron said:
Do not post false or misleading information.
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A lot of people here fail to realize that the only mistake NRS made was by letting Other Ocean handle MKAK when they should have done it themselves to begin with. NRS is simply trying to nullify the things Other Ocean screwed up. I'm sure it's not an easy task.

As for this unwarranted hostility towards Pat, grow up. This is a fan site, not IGN. He doesn't owe any of you anything. He does more for this ungrateful community than most, and yet some of you are so quick to nail him to the cross over a minute detail. He's a busy guy; he's entitled to making a mistake once in a while. He's only human.
 
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Tarkatan Trash said:
This video is 100% legit! Patched version and everything! Unedited and uncensored, as a matter of fact! We already have witnesses such as OldschoolMK4life, gamemk, and Dedamn666 to confirm this! We as a community owe these 3 fine gentlemen more than anyone a debt of gratitude for exposing the patch for all to see!



And Pat told us that the issue shown in this video was already fixed in the patch, as you can see here...



Now where is Mr. McCarron for his rebuttal? Where is he to defend himself against the allegations of yellow journalism at best, false advertising at worst? And I don't care how minor any details are; false statements are still false statements!
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Holy-f**king-shit. Are you seriously that obsessed with a SOUND issue in ATTRACT MODE? Like... you're saying the "whole experience is ruined" because of a miniscule discrepancy that occurs when you're not even f**king playing the game? You've obviously played the game before, so why the hell are you even watching the attract screen? If you saw the game on free play in an arcade, you wouldn't be watching that shit, so why are you watching it now?

Personally, I think you're the one at fault for getting that upset over something so simple. Yeah, yeah, it's not arcade perfect, but it's far from ruined. Grow up.
 
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Jason Shearer said:
A lot of people here fail to realize that the only mistake NRS made was by letting Other Ocean handle MKAK when they should have done it themselves to begin with. NRS is simply trying to nullify the things Other Ocean screwed up. I'm sure it's not an easy task.

As for this unwarranted hostility towards Pat, grow up. This is a fan site, not IGN. He doesn't owe any of you anything. He does more for this ungrateful community than most, and yet some of you are so quick to nail him to the cross over a minute detail. He's a busy guy; he's entitled to making a mistake once in a while. He's only human.
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You're right he doesn't owe anyone here anything, but the longer he goes without commenting on something he was clearly wrong about, i can see how its rubbing some people the wrong way.
 
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Araknyd_Commander said:
That statement doesn't make sense.
Other Ocean was behind the porting of the MKAK, not NRS.
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Dude, NRS let them. That's more than enough reason to blame them too. If they had more love for their product, they wouldn't have allowed such a half-assed game to be released.
 
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Well if they want arcade perfect they need to fix those soundtrack bugs in MK2. But from what i am hearing and have SEEN they have not done this. Kombat tomb loops itself twice at the start. and the armory repeats itself on round 2/3 like 10 times with 1 second pauses :S. It may be the ''aw its okay its just audio'' but CMON THAT IS PRETTY MESSED UP that not how mk2 sounded back in the day.

what have you done other ocean :/
 
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Dedamn666 said:
Yes me too, folk like you make me embarrassed. Willing to accept whatever. Please go dance in your Raiden costume son
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MK DANCE PARTY, BRO!

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Seriously, me dancing in my costume would be less embarrassing than putting a video on YouTube *****ing about sound in an attract mode, then personally attacking the guy who runs the site.

I'm not trying to be a kiss ass here, but Pat's done too much for MK to get treated like that. You realize any legit points you may have about MKAK get canceled out by being an absolute twat about it? You're taking something that should be a civilized discussion and turning it into a whiny brat from My Super Sweet Sixteen *****ing to their parents because they bought a BMW instead of a Mercedes. There's no grand conspiracy from NRS, Ed Boon, or TRMK to lie to people. Sometimes shit happens. Especially in a case like this where I imagine WB farmed it out to Other Ocean and it turned into a catastrophuck.

I get it, MKAK didn't turn out to be the end-all be-all you hoped it would be (and I don't recall Ed ever promising arcade perfection, but whatevs), there's mature ways to express your displeasure. If this is the first time in your gaming life you ever bought a game that turned out to be less than quality in your eyes, then you've had quite the run of luck my man.

The bottom line is this. Pat, and the others who run this site, don't have to do this. They all have other jobs, and do this because they love MK. No one's going to live off their 401k from TRMK (mainly because there isn't one), so if any of them decide it's not worth getting arrows slung at them and do their dismount, it's a loss for all of us. Losing Pat or anyone running this site would be a far, far worse blow than a sound glitch in MKAK.
 
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There is nothing wrong with voicing opinions, but many of your have iterated the exact same point several times. I believe your points have been made; therefore, there is no need to continue and make your points over and over.

Here is what I understand from your posts. You're not happy with the updates that were made. You expected that Other Ocean and NRS would fix everything. You want an arcade perfect port because at some point in time Ed Boon said it was going to be arcade perfect.

I think that no matter how much more effort Other Ocean puts into this game, you are not going to be happy. The expectations were set too high and - unfortunately - they did not, and still have not delivered on these expectations. I have no idea what the scope of the patch was, but obviously, judging by what was fixed, the scope did not contain everything you identified as an issue.

I will admit that our patch analysis wasn't as in-depth as you would like. There were many things that we were trying to document in order to have something up as soon as possible. We mentioned that the MK2 attract mode "sounds proper" because it sounded so much better than before but didn't take the time to notice that it still jumps around. We documented what we found different within the few hours we played the updated version. We think issues like online play were the most glaring issues and we noted that, along with several other cosmetic changes. Yes, some things are still broken, but this patch makes the game a lot better. I have updated the news story to reflect that the game still has audio issues, but many have been resolved.

Now when you make "conspiracy" allegations regarding collusion between NRS and TRMK, that is crossing the line. I can understand with your opinions how you can jump to that conclusion, <b>but doing so takes your argument to a place where we cannot enter a debate with you</b>. We have a keen interest in making sure that the Mortal Kombat franchise continues to survive and move forward. If you want to make accusations of collusion and conspiracy, this is not the place.

If you are still upset with the game after the patch, then you have every right to be upset. What I don't understand is how we are responsible for the game not living up to your expectations. I will not tolerate any type of berating of our staff members on any of our forums. Feel free to voice your opinions. But when you resort to personal attacks, that type of behavior is unacceptable and I will not allow that to occur here.
 
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Also, to set the record straight, we never received free games from NetherRealm or Warner Bros. If we did, we are required by the Federal Trade Commission to disclose any items provided to us at no cost that we write about.

We bought our own copies of MK9 when it came out and the copies we are giving away were bought by us, including the future items in our giveway. NRS was kind enough to take the time and autograph everything.
 
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thank you. Jeff. people clam down step away for your keyboards and come back when you nolonger feel the need to be asses about stuff thats not under the controll of pat and his staff. and answer me one question why are you guys *****ing about free stuff who cares how pat got these things as long as he didn't steal them then what does it matter?
 
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LeingodX said:
If they had more love for their product, they wouldn't have allowed such a half-assed game to be released.
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That is a completely false statement.
Just because NRS had a 3rd party developer do the porting, doesn't mean that they have less love for their product.
Should it have been monitored more closely, before release, for glitches?
Sure, I agree 100%.
There are many reasons why NRS might have had Other Ocean do the porting.
Maybe NRS doesn't have that specialty in porting to other consoles, like Other Ocean does.

It's not just "Oh, NRS doesn't give a shit about the MKAK, so they let OO do it."
There's a lot more that goes on behind the scenes, but everyone is so quick to just bash on them, that they don't think of these factors that come into play.
 
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Im happy for NRS to do another patch if its going to be proper.
Im not happy for NRS to make us wait 4 months for this little work.
 
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That's all well and good and I would like to sincerely thank the administrators for taking their time to answer to us. However... Can anyone one of you, guys, give us ANY update about the status of the US patch for the 360 and a PS 3 versions? It's not the lack of the patch that bothers most... It's the silence.
 
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Cronge said:
That's all well and good and I would like to sincerely thank the administrators for taking their time to answer to us. However... Can anyone one of you, guys, give us ANY update about the status of the US patch for the 360 version? It's not the lack of the patch that bothers most... It's the silence.
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If there's no further news on the patch at the moment, then unfortunately, there's going to be some silence.
Jeff and Pat always inform us as soon as THEY find out.
 
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Cronge said:
That's all well and good and I would like to sincerely thank the administrators for taking their time to answer to us. However... Can anyone one of you, guys, give us ANY update about the status of the US patch for the 360 version? It's not the lack of the patch that bothers most... It's the silence.
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I wish I knew the answer. Honestly, we were going off the Ed Boon tweets like everyone else was. I'm puzzled about the silence as well. Sony EU appears to have approved the patch, hence why they got the update on Wednesday. Apparently the other approval entities Xbox US & EU and Sony US have not approved the patch yet. I have no idea why they haven't or when they will.

But it is easy to conclude that considering Sony EU had it and approved it tells you that it should be out pretty soon.
 
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Thanks for the reply. Well... On to the waiting again, then. Logic tells that the patch should be out the coming Tuesday, at least for 360... Let's all hope that it will come out that day.
 
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Araknyd_Commander said:
That is a completely false statement.
Just because NRS had a 3rd party developer do the porting, doesn't mean that they have less love for their product.
Should it have been monitored more closely, before release, for glitches?
Sure, I agree 100%.
There are many reasons why NRS might have had Other Ocean do the porting.
Maybe NRS doesn't have that specialty in porting to other consoles, like Other Ocean does.

It's not just "Oh, NRS doesn't give a shit about the MKAK, so they let OO do it."
There's a lot more that goes on behind the scenes, but everyone is so quick to just bash on them, that they don't think of these factors that come into play.
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How is it false? I never said NRS should do the porting, I just said that if they cared more, they would've done a little testing on the game before allowing it to be released. I mean, it's not like the issues with MK:AK are difficult to find... you play for about a minute and they slap you in the face.
 
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I for one would like to clarify those who questioned my silence and attacked me because of it. I have a job, I take a lot of time out of my busy day for TRMK stuff like the very busy day on Wednesday including staying up all night answering questions about the patch on Twitter. Thursday came and work on my real job, making iOS apps and games, took priority so I was up til midnight working after which I unwound with some gaming. So I didn't respond and the allegations against me got worse and worse. But I wanted to reply with some deeper looking at the audio before I was branded a liar or corrupt influencer again.

Personally I felt the patch improved the audio, on my sound system it sounded better. For instance you can hear Scorpion when he tosses a spear now in UMK3, even though on the arcade sometimes you always didn't due to another bug. This is <a href="http://www.mametesters.org/view.php?id=751">still a problem in MAME actually</a> but it was fixed in the patch for us fans. The intro for MK2 sounded good to me so I put it on the list incorrectly, and never revisited it until today.

Here is a side-by-side of the intro music to MK2, MKAK at top, old PS3 version below. Clearly they are using more normalized audio on the MKAK instead of the overly loud audio from the previous arcade ports (which means the machine's emulation volume was just up too high).

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Up close you see the low points on the MK2 audio drops out occasionally causing the gaps in sound that we hear, this looks to me an emulation glitch causing the timing of the audio to be off slightly.

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Now I'm not seeing the game studded at these points, it's just the background audio that is off and not mixed properly.

I need to do further digging into what MKAK is doing to understand it more, but it's clear an emulation problem is causing the mix to be wrong or off. Is it the end of the world? No. I personally turned the music up and sound effects level down for an optimal mix for my system I felt, makes the sounds sound right again (like complaints of jumping sounding odd).

The fact of the matter is the patch is better, online play is MUCH better and anyone who says otherwise is stoned or on dial up. I was playing across the world in the videos I posted and there was almost no noticeable lag on my side. Is it perfect? Nope online play is impossible to make perfect with today's technology, but it's a vast improvement.

I would do a better detailed list of patch notes, but NetherRealm is said to be working on that and they have a more accurate list of changes than what I put together here.
 
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