I know this game encourages competitive play, but..

Playing online =/= Competitive play. Competitive play = Physically going to a get together or tournament and participating. Online W/L means nothing.
 
okay op you really don't need to spend hours in training but i do sugest going for 10 to 5 minutes with your favorite character the game is funner if you know what your doing just try to learn their launcher and you should be getting 20 percent easy
 
What didn't ocur to me to begin with was this. What are you talking about?!

99% of the people I've played have been completely terrible, using scrub friendly tactics like Scorpions spear, Subs freeze or Smoke's bomb. And when they land it they dont even make the most of it, it's usually just an uppercut or a throw. Past that, no concept of footsies or wakeup game, they are totally clueless. The number of games I've won after the first knock down by just alternating between a sweep and a throw is ridiculous.

I was shocked when I encountered a Sub-Zero who knew his BnB!
 
~ Outworld's Goddess ~ said:
were u being competitive when we were fighting? :P
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Not really, I have fun when we fight. I don't care if I win or lose :)

Either way, online has too many variables that doesn't make it a good form of competitive play. This game was meant to be played offline, just like every other fighter.
 
RKW said:
You spend time moaning online about the game in the forums, mention that you won't get 100% achievements with this one (implying thats what you'd usually do), but stress that you have more important constructive things to do with your time. Do you see the contradiction?

And what you said about the training room is outright wrong. You go in with a combo to practice, your first attempt is unsuccessful, 20 minutes later, you know it off by heart and can land it from a jump in, taking your damage from whatever it was before, to a nice 40%. Sounds like sizable progress.

I think there's a big difference in thought patterns here. For most getting good at a game would entail mastering it's mechanics and learning its secrets, so that you can "Win" at the game in the most efficient/impressive/stylish manner. But for others it's getting the achievements, or just completing the story?
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I've hardly been moaning about it. I was just trying to generate discussion on it, but your apparent hostility towards me because I don't have the elitist "MLG" mindset is abit unnerving. Spending hours training on a video game =\= the 2-3 minutes it takes to type up a post. I guess I'm just not that competitive when it comes to that game, and I find it odd that people get so up in arms about it. Gaming is srs bznz, y'know.
 
Why is the mindset of, "I'll put in some effort, and I'll get better" an elitist one?

You're vastly exaggerating how much effort is required to learn some combo's. 20 minutes with most of the cast is all it takes, not hours, which you keep re-iterating. This game has a very easy combo system.

"'I'd rather do something that's more noticeably productive, since I (unlike some people, it seems) can't dedicate all my time to playing video games."

You have a go at those that try to the play the game properly by insinuating they do nothing but play games all day; which obviously isn't the case, but simultaneously, you achievement hunt? ( Something I'll never understand, people that play the game not for the game, but so they can watch their gamerscore go up a few digits )

Summary: There's nothing wrong with playing for some laughs and not getting into the games mechanics properly, but it's really ignorant to do that and then criticise those that do strive to improve their gameplay (Especially when the argument is as contradictary as yours ).
 
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DCP said:
Not really, I have fun when we fight. I don't care if I win or lose :)

Either way, online has too many variables that doesn't make it a good form of competitive play. This game was meant to be played offline, just like every other fighter.
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hehe :) it was fun!! we have 2 do it again with alisa & aldo watching <3

namco was enforcing online play 4 tekken 6 way back in 2009
 
RKW said:
Why is the mindset of, "I'll put in some effort, and I'll get better" an elitist one?

You're vastly exaggerating how much effort is required to learn some combo's. 20 minutes with most of the cast is all it takes, not hours, which you keep re-iterating. This game has a very easy combo system.

"'I'd rather do something that's more noticeably productive, since I (unlike some people, it seems) can't dedicate all my time to playing video games."

You have a go at those that try to the play the game properly by insinuating they do nothing but play games all day; which obviously isn't the case, but simultaneously, you achievement hunt? ( Something I'll never understand, people that play the game not for the game, but so they can watch their gamerscore go up a few digits )

Summary: There's nothing wrong with playing for some laughs and not getting into the games mechanics properly, but it's really ignorant to do that and then criticise those that do strive to improve their gameplay (Especially when the argument is as contradictary as yours ).
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Except that I'm not the ignorant one making presumptions of others, at least not at first. It seems like a shitload of people have been getting butthurt because I don't want to put time into playing the game "properly". I spent $60 on the game, I'll play it at my leisure. And you keep nagging on and on about my "achievement hunting" when I never said that I do, I merely stated that I won't get the 1000 from this game. What's ignorant is your ****ing insinuations.
 
Going by your first post I had good reason to assume that's what you would usually do. I also never said that you did, I only assumed and you only told me otherwise just now. You also didn't answer my question btw.

That aside, you were belittling people that would put effort into the game just because you couldn't be bothered to. That's the only reason I posted here to begin with, that and your outrage that somebody had given you negative rep.

I'd be worth pointing out that the time it's taken for you reply to the posts in this thread has likely exceeded the 20 minutes that it takes to actually learn somebodies BnB combo.
 
DCP said:
Playing online =/= Competitive play. Competitive play = Physically going to a get together or tournament and participating. Online W/L means nothing.
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For some of us older folks, online IS the only way to get competitive for casual players. With family, job and other hobbies, this is the closest I can get to it. My wife rather enjoys watching me beat down spammers on the 72" plasma :)
 
Demetrius said:
I'm in the same boat as you, OP, but that's not the games fault; there isn't really a character that I have desired to play to a high level yet. They are all really cool, I would give them a 4 (out of 5) for coolness, but none of the characters are actually... what I want in my fighter.

Of course, this is the first fighting game I have played since MK3, so yeah.... I just haven't discovered my style yet. Kind of hoping Kenshi/Skarlet are my type of deal. if not I guess I just have to wait for Havik/Rain or whoever they decide to throw in next.
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Wow out of the whole cast there isn't a single character that interests you? Maybe MK is not your style? LOL
 
I'm not to fond of joining a random Ranked match where the dude completely memorizes one character and proceeds to kick my ass. It really turns me off multiplayer (Except with my friends) and makes me skeptical about getting those stupid achievements for playing ranked matches.
 
I had more fun playing this game with friends in person (loser had to do push-ups and pull-ups). Online play has lag, quitters, etc. etc. I personally don't give a damn about learning super long combos. I use whats already there in the move list and kick plenty of ass with that.

Everyone is entitled to play how they choose. If you don't agree with how someone plays, at least disagree in a respectable manner.
 
Trillo said:
For some of us older folks, online IS the only way to get competitive for casual players. With family, job and other hobbies, this is the closest I can get to it. My wife rather enjoys watching me beat down spammers on the 72" plasma :)
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That doesn't negate his point. Lag leads to games that suck because of the intermittent pauses and crappy match-making means you're not improving your game (which is key to high-level play) by playing people that are on your level or better. I have a family too, so I feel your pain, but he's still correct in saying that playing online isn't gonna really allow you to grow as a player.

If this game is still popular when I have more free time, I'll care more about being the best I can be, but until then, I'm perfectly happy owning the scrubs online.
 
Eks said:
That doesn't negate his point. Lag leads to games that suck because of the intermittent pauses and crappy match-making means you're not improving your game (which is key to high-level play) by playing people that are on your level or better. I have a family too, so I feel your pain, but he's still correct in saying that playing online isn't gonna really allow you to grow as a player.

If this game is still popular when I have more free time, I'll care more about being the best I can be, but until then, I'm perfectly happy owning the scrubs online.
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My argument was about DCP stating "online =/= competitive". I was merely pointing out that the word "competitive" is very subjective. Yeah, to someone that plays in offline tournaments, online is trash. To someone who has never played offline other than practice mode, its competition.

I agree, you will be limited in how much you can learn online, but there are some decent players online only. I tend to challenge everyone with a 4:1 W/L ratio, preferable over 100 wins. If they are good I friend request them and just play them over and over. If they just accumulate wins by scrub running, I pass.
 
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