Trolling against special move spammers (^_~)

[Critical-Limit]

Zoner characters are characters that specialize in long range combat and keeping people away from you, like Sektor with all of his missles.

I was always under the impression that Zoners are a way to describe people who play defensive (doesn't have to be projectiles.) Using spacing as a tool. such as always backing away to bait you into approaching, then coming back in for the punish.

For instance:
You dash forward toward your opponent. They try to counter what they expect to be an approach. you immediately back away, and just outspace them then punish their whiffed attack.

Rushdown is the exact opposite. They try to stay on you and apply constant pressure, while leaving very little room for you to counter back.

Also Tim please don't post. You're the one not on topic with your original post. Just so you know. He was just complaining about not running into enough caliber players who actually "THINK" when they play. He's been running into non-stop people who just spam moves and hope they land. I like to call them sorta like Button mashers who know how to execute moves. They execute things at random, not putting any thought into why it's working/not working. How do you call that a scrub mentality? Wanting a challenge is hardly a scrub mentality. which if you read his posts you'd understand.

 

[SUPERB]

yeah strykers gun is the best trolling move. scrubs get super pissed and send alot of hate messages lol.

 

[The Bilingual Gringo]

Here is an article i think everyone should read regarding "spamming" moves.

http://testyourmight.com/forum/showthread.php?45-Playing-to-Win-Part-1

Interesting read. While I believe that the scrubs are a necessary evil when it comes to games, as the better players learn to counter their actions, like the author said, I think the prevalence of home based gaming is what made the idea of playing to win so popular. It was never like that in the arcades, and the scrubs or spammers would catch hell for it physically and still have that reputation. Speaking from the old man's point of view here, yall get off my grass too.

 

[Demetrius]

What about a Noob (Character, not player) who alternates between his SPecials? It's his fighting style, punish people who move towards him. So I'll alternate between Shadow Slide and Shadow Charge, and when they get too close in the air, Shadow Upknee. When they get too close to me, I'll use a combo to send them packing, and if they send a fireball at me, Teleport Slam them into the ground. Is that Cheap? I've won a few games doing this, and it has gotten me quite a bit of hate (and not alot of reputation....)

 

[Shin Li]

There is no "wrong way to play." If someone spams you, just figure out a way to counter it and hit them with a combo. If you want, spam them back. Winning is winning. Whether your opponent spammed you to death or kept beating you down with insanely long combos.

 

[MS3]

Spamming in a fighter is equivalent to camping in a FPS. They are cheap tactics used to overwhelm or trick another player. Only very skilled players generally know or have the ability to counteract it and is a frustratingly unsatisfying way to play or be played against. It is almost akin to cheating and I know people will say "O well its in the game so its a strategy" but it is not how the developers envisioned a match to be played.

 

[Shin Li]

Spamming in a fighter is equivalent to camping in a FPS. They are cheap tactics used to overwhelm or trick another player. Only very skilled players generally know or have the ability to counteract it and is a frustratingly unsatisfying way to play or be played against. It is almost akin to cheating and I know people will say "O well its in the game so its a strategy" but it is not how the developers envisioned a match to be played.

So camping with a Sniper Rifle in a FPS, giving your team covering fire is a cheap tactic? (no sarcasm intended)

 

[PaperW8]

Haha, so is this thread about getting frustrated and salty with people that use specials and nothing but.
Or is it about how easy it is to beat people that can do nothing but random specials.

Because either way, it's retarded. Also, props to Araknyd03 who doesn't play anyone that might play "the wrong way".

All the specials in this are so punishable, (especially if you have a teleport) take their random scrubbyness as an cue to practice your big combo's.

Well said, So true

 

[ManicRaider]

I don't see spamming moves as something bad. The point of a fighting game is to beat your opponent before they beat you, right? Then why does it matter how that is achieved? If spammers are unskilled, why complain about them? Shouldn't your "skill" be enough to beat someone so "unskillful"?

 

[dbd6604]

Honestly I don't see what the big fuss is about people spamming moves of any kind. My little brother jumps on MK and spams Scorpion's spear like no tomorrow, and it's not like "OMFG, there is NO WAY TO BEAT THIS!!!!" *rage quit* It's part of the game, and an easy one to overcome at that.

 

[Camoufrage]

This is why i love Kabal, his spinning move can be really annoying when it's being spammed, but when used against a special-move spammer you can start a juggle kombo in a split-second. Also both of his projectiles can hit crouched players.

 

[RKW]

I think instead of being stuck in a rut about how people play to win; because like it or not, that's the goal (Outside a combo video?). All the people here concerned with "Spamming" or "Cheapness" should get together online and try and level up their game, there is always a way to counter a repetitive tactic and if their isn't then the game is in need of fixing.

I'm not in the states, but I'm sure that some of the better players on TYM or TRMK would be pretty forthcoming with advice or a little tuition.

 

[Get_Over_Here!]

There is no "wrong way to play." If someone spams you, just figure out a way to counter it and hit them with a combo. If you want, spam them back. Winning is winning. Whether your opponent spammed you to death or kept beating you down with insanely long combos.

This, if you are good enough it should only take you a round to find out a way around his spamming. To me i see them as a challenge.

 

[hoduken]

Nothing wrong with special move spammers. Unless they are winning, then its a problem. But if your one of the few on here who are QQ'ing because your losing against special move spammers then i suggest you read this article.

http://www.sirlin.net/articles/playing-to-win-part-1.html

Otherwise, helping players get out of spamming specials by beating them over and over again is a great start to help them realize that they must learn more intricate strategies to win the game.

The only reason they keep spamming is probably because it seems viable, so they keep doing it. Fight against that by punishing everything all the time.

 

[Jade]

There is no "wrong way to play." If someone spams you, just figure out a way to counter it and hit them with a combo. If you want, spam them back. Winning is winning. Whether your opponent spammed you to death or kept beating you down with insanely long combos.

This isn't entirely the case.....yes, spamming is lame as hell and annoying, but I personally like to have a well fought match. It makes the game more exciting. I would rather win/lose to someone who has played an amazing game than some idiot who just spammed the entire time.

There is always a way to beat people, no matter how they play, of course, but some of us like well fought games. It isn't very fun to play some spammer, win or lose.

 

[hoduken]

This isn't entirely the case.....yes, spamming is lame as hell and annoying, but I personally like to have a well fought match. It makes the game more exciting. I would rather win/lose to someone who has played an amazing game than some idiot who just spammed the entire time.

There is always a way to beat people, no matter how they play, of course, but some of us like well fought games. It isn't very fun to play some spammer, win or lose.

What exactly is a well fought match?

 

[Jade]

What exactly is a well fought match?

One that isn't spammed to death.

Of course, not everyone is as good as others, which is expected, but at least do more than one move the entire time.....I like to play people who are more experienced myself but that's just my own thing.

 

[hoduken]

One that isn't spammed to death.

Of course, not everyone is as good as others, which is expected, but at least do more than one move the entire time.....I like to play people who are more experienced myself but that's just my own thing.

I agree. I think that most people would agree that fighting someone who is more experienced is funner. However, i equate experienced to winning, regardless of how its done. If spamming a move is a viable option against your opponent that's not fault with the player spamming, that's fault with the player losing against it. The more, inexperienced player. I'm not calling you the inexperienced player by any means, for all i know you destroy every spammer out there, and i agree, when your really good its not very fun not learning anything. But the complaint against a spammer winning is kind of like complaining that there rock is always beating your scissors, its not his fault that you keep choosing scissors.

 

[CylonDorado]

Lol, you can't blame them too much. I'm still learning how to play, and I mostly use specials (especially with Sindel and Kabal). Although, I havn't played online yet. I have started trying to work on my normal combos, and my game has improved dramaticly, so I think special spam just doesn't work as well. But sometimes you just have to do it if it's lolsy. Like, sometimes I get in little "shootouts" when the AI starts spamming projectiles, and if I time it right, I get hit, they get hit, I get hit, they get hit, but then I start winning because Sheeva's fireball does more damage, lol.

 

[Jade]

I agree. I think that most people would agree that fighting someone who is more experienced is funner. However, i equate experienced to winning, regardless of how its done. If spamming a move is a viable option against your opponent that's not fault with the player spamming, that's fault with the player losing against it. The more, inexperienced player. I'm not calling you the inexperienced player by any means, for all i know you destroy every spammer out there, and i agree, when your really good its not very fun not learning anything. But the complaint against a spammer winning is kind of like complaining that there rock is always beating your scissors, its not his fault that you keep choosing scissors.

Also, not every person who spams is someone who isn't very good at the game. I know there are some legit people who there who spam one main move because it's pretty much all they know but others do it because it's the only way they can win (or attempt to) or they know it's irritating and just do it to be a dick.

For me, it's not so much an issue of losing against a spammer because they aren't all that hard to beat, it's just that I enjoy good matches in general. I wont be as satisfied with winning if I destroy someone who has done one move the entire time.

Maybe I am just more serious about having good matches than others, lol.