Trolling against special move spammers (^_~)

Im not necessarily a fighter either but I am no punk. And will defend myself in a way thats respectful and whats necessary for the situation. Nothing is respectful in a normal fight about grabbing a man's.....WAIT...did you say you would grab and squeze another mans balls? LMAO This sounds more like pleasure and less like self defense. I KEED. But I suppose I understand where you are coming from, I cannot understand or condone this tactic when it's uneccessary.

LOL @ the forfeiting of reproduction comment though. I literally LOL'd at my desk at work sir.

That is a pretty vague look at spamming but we approach the situation differently. While you wouldnt let up, I would send two or three let him gather himself if couldnt handle it and hadn't showed any signs of being able to handle the situation. Then restart to see if he'd learned anything. Even if I lose that fight I wouldnt necessarily care cause it wasnt competitive to begin with.

But with that being said do you see what I mean about using a narrow-minded tactic to try to never give a turn to the other player. That's essentially what happened although it could have been beaten/stopped easily. Not the case with all spam but most have a definite counter.
 
Bware113 said:
Im not necessarily a fighter either but I am no punk. And will defend myself in a way thats respectful and whats necessary for the situation. Nothing is respectful in a normal fight about grabbing a man's.....WAIT...did you say you would grab and squeze another mans balls? LMAO This sounds more like pleasure and less like self defense. I KEED. But I suppose I understand where you are coming from, I cannot understand or condone this tactic when it's uneccessary.

LOL @ the forfeiting of reproduction comment though. I literally LOL'd at my desk at work sir.

That is a pretty vague look at spamming but we approach the situation differently. While you wouldnt let up, I would send two or three let him gather himself if couldnt handle it and hadn't showed any signs of being able to handle the situation. Then restart to see if he'd learned anything. Even if I lose that fight I wouldnt necessarily care cause it wasnt competitive to begin with.

But with that being said do you see what I mean about using a narrow-minded tactic to try to never give a turn to the other player. That's essentially what happened although it could have been beaten/stopped easily. Not the case with all spam but most have a definite counter.
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so far unless its a broken mechanic like a block infinite everything has a definite counter. and yes i understand, but thats the name of a fighting game, your not supposed to give a turn to the other player. your supposed to beat them.

id also like to know what world you live in where you approach a fight of self defense with respect...that is just bizarro to me. he initiated a physical threat to you, there is no respect in that so giving any is either ****y or ignorant in my book. granted you say you have a code or whatever, i just cant get behind it. i liked samurais/knights...but there code got in the way more hten it ever helped them.

what was the general? sun tzu? the guy who made the art of war...i abide by those teachings generally.
 
You only got part of my definition. Not giving a turn through a simple minded tactic. The tactic you employed against the fellow you DM'd about how to defend the shadows, was simple. Never let up in a true competitive set, but casual match I can take an L with no issue.

Yes but as I said groin punch is the lowest of the low. If I lose a fight, which I have, I just lose. Im not going to resort to such unless I face a life and death situation. A guy trying to rob me kick him in the balls and run for my life. A disagreement at a BBQ is a regular fight. I wouldnt do it. Just because I respect a man not to kick him in the balls , even after their initial disrespect, does not make me as you stated '****y'.

So if you abide by those teaching, then Life is War in your eyes?
 
Not to break up all the arguments of spamming and how to deal with it, etc. However, everyone that participated in 'RAWR OMG I HATE SPAMMERS' vs. 'OMG YOU SUCK CUZ YOU CANT DEAL WITH SPAM' is going off topic. O.o
I thought this topic was trolling spammers xD it was fun at first. :|
But anyways one of my ways of trolling is with Ermac, first doing his usual bnb combo force lift-tele-force push. Then after pulling off that for 2 times. I punish my opponents with two force lifts, with my beautiful reptile, I do his combos, but like Ermac I start doing two of the same balls (which does literally no damage and no combos put in for even more fun).
 
Bware113 said:
You only got part of my definition. Not giving a turn through a simple minded tactic. The tactic you employed against the fellow you DM'd about how to defend the shadows, was simple. Never let up in a true competitive set, but casual match I can take an L with no issue.

Yes but as I said groin punch is the lowest of the low. If I lose a fight, which I have, I just lose. Im not going to resort to such unless I face a life and death situation. A guy trying to rob me kick him in the balls and run for my life. A disagreement at a BBQ is a regular fight. I wouldnt do it. Just because I respect a man not to kick him in the balls , even after their initial disrespect, does not make me as you stated '****y'.

So if you abide by those teaching, then Life is War in your eyes?
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i see no put in giving them the win and letting them think they did something pro.

and i respect no man enough that if he would be dumb enough to start a fight with me at a bbq...of course, i dont live in a friend/family setting where that has ever happened. Ive never fought a friend nor family, nor a friends friend. so its either a poor example or a disturbing insight into your social circles O.o.

I will maintain there is nothing low about a junk punch. its simple and effective to neutralize a fight. im not trying to give some dumbass im arguing with a fighting chance...hell no, im taking him down so he cant threaten me anymore. now...ive also NEVER gotten into a fight with an argument unless the other person took the first swing. In which case again...self defense, junk punch, shot to the windpipe, sternum, break an arm/fingers, pull hair, gouge eyes, break nose...no dont just beat on him till hse unconcious but employ these tactics until he backs off or cant/wont fight back. punching him in the face isnt nearly as effective, and punching in the stomach is just stupid. stomping on foot (5 pounds of pressure can fracture the bones) is smart.

you fight with some outdated ideology (aka gentlemens guide to fisticuffs) and ill work on ending the fight faster and more effectively.

but...while the debate on the legimiticacy of the junk punch is enjoyable, as far as spamming is concerned. i have no issue with it in this game. if someoen spams they are handing you a win, if you would just take it.

timed/properly spaced jumps. dashblocks. and the other tools various chars have all aid in making spamming a worthless endeavor.

now if you want to get into frame traps...now your gettin ginto a more suitable debate into something that can be nigh inescapable...or damn near. love reptiles frametrap with ex slowball.
 
I cannot and will not believe that you've never been into an altercation with a family member, friend, or friend of. EVERYONE gets into with those that are close to them at some point and the fact that you say you dont or have never almost gotten into a fight with someone close to you I find to be the least believable point you've made thus far. Sibling disagree, peers disagree, Parents and children disagree, hell even the Brady Bunch had squabbles amongst eachother, but you don't? Sure man.

It's still the lowest form of self-defense imaginable. Point blank. There is not a man, other than yourself, I can ask that would agree to such a tactic.

You haven't even noticed I agreed with you about two posts ago, because you are still badgering and beating the point of the same type of spam, projectiles. There is more to spam than such and you know so. Frame traps are a legal and suitable used tactic in my mind. It's something I understand more in Tekken and Soul but understand it none-the-less. Can't say I'm familiar with Reptiles EX ball frame trap though. *goes to reptile thread for insight*

I dont see it as giving a win. Because most learned. Played a guy a few days back and did the things I speak of, slowly applying more pressure and making end his bad habbits to the point where we actually had a few good matches. This is what I mean. He 3 of like 10 battles 2 which being very competitive sets.
 
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Groin hits affecting a man's reproductive life? Altercation with family members? BBQ?


What the hell are you guys talking about?!
 
Vulcan Hades said:
Groin hits affecting a man's reproductive life? Altercation with family members? BBQ?


What the hell are you guys talking about?!
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I realized it was derailed but when nearly nobody else posted I decided to explore the discussion. Lol. Suffice to say if you have physical fights with family/friends then either they sucj as family/friends or you need to take a long look at youself. I'm inclined to believe the former as you seem rather reasonable bware. And junk punches still seem acceptable to me. Just some people are not prepare2d to accept the repercussions of there actions
 
I need not to look at family/friends and analyze things. People disagree and sometimes those disagreements become physical. Its fact. It needs to be analyzed if you beating someone who doesn't have a proper way to defend, women & children. But brothers or cousins going at it happens all the time.

I tried my best to keep the convo going as well as comment on the spamming subject to with each post. But like 2 posts in I was like 'this is gonna get WAAYYY off topic', but I suppose that's my fault for using examples outside the game itself. LOL
 
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I need not to look at family/friends and analyze things. People disagree and sometimes those disagreements become physical. Its fact. It needs to be analyzed if you beating someone who doesn't have a proper way to defend, women & children. But brothers or cousins going at it happens all the time.

I tried my best to keep the convo going as well as comment on the spamming subject to with each post. But like 2 posts in I was like 'this is gonna get WAAYYY off topic', but I suppose that's my fault for using examples outside the game itself. LOL
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It happens to the best of us. Good convo tho. On both subjects.
 
Bware113 said:
Groin in real life? Isnt that reserved for women fighting men? Im not kicking, punching, striking another dude in the balls but I will choke or swiftly hit him with a brick if need be and in true desperation throw dirt in their bug eyes. But groin kicks are a no-no.
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While I know this debate was aimed towards online play, it appears that here people are trying to compare this to real life.

If you're in a fight you are either defending yourself or someone you care about. If neither of those are the reasons you're fighting your either being an ass and bullying someone or your being an ass trying to prove yourself to someone for no reason.

If you are in a REAL fight then you should take the earliest opportunity to incapacitate your opponent. If you don't feel the need to stop them immediately what are you fighting for anyway? The longer you drag the fight out the higher the chances are for someone to be seriously hurt (and not just humiliated) if it was a stupid cat fight to begin with. By no means is a kick to the groin or a punch to the throat "dishonorable". If you connect properly either is an immediate fight ender that your opponent can recover from if you just walk away at that point. Those types of actions are only dishonorable if you're fighting for points in a tournament or a sparring match
 
Man, I hate spammers! If somebody effortlessly defeats me using a single move over and over again, that must be because they suck really bad and won't fight fair! It's definitely not my fault, I promise you.

DUUUURRRRR
 
But my main point with said analogy was that some cant handle constant pressure in which case I ease up and give a chance to learn, defend and become better.

I would like to start by saying that I am not a bully and a usually pretty level headed guy nor do I need to prove myself to others. But sometimes in life fights just kind of happen. In which case I will defend myself without inflicting a low blow. This is just a principle I was raised on, to never go for the groin. If I lose, I lose.

But we once again run the course of possible being off topic. Lets get back to certain cases of 'spam' and how to stop it.

I still have slight trouble with constant crossovers on block. I just cant seem to find that or opportunity to counter. Suggestions?
 
Bware113 said:
But my main point with said analogy was that some cant handle constant pressure in which case I ease up and give a chance to learn, defend and become better.

I would like to start by saying that I am not a bully and a usually pretty level headed guy nor do I need to prove myself to others. But sometimes in life fights just kind of happen. In which case I will defend myself without inflicting a low blow. This is just a principle I was raised on, to never go for the groin. If I lose, I lose.

But we once again run the course of possible being off topic. Lets get back to certain cases of 'spam' and how to stop it.

I still have slight trouble with constant crossovers on block. I just cant seem to find that or opportunity to counter. Suggestions?
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i maintain that letting up on them doesnt cause them to actually learn anything, merely to make them think they are doing better then they actually are, giving them a false sense of there skills.

as for crossovers what chars you use? certain chars can handle crossovers readily (noob, upknee) others have more trouble (kenshi...nothing much can be done on reaction, have to predict)

a surefire way is to jump backwards, you will get hit but you wont be caught in the crossup anymore.
 
aedanwolfe said:
i maintain that letting up on them doesnt cause them to actually learn anything, merely to make them think they are doing better then they actually are, giving them a false sense of there skills.
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Yeah, I personally dont have fun when I go full throttle on someone that cant handle it. I equate it to fighting my little brother. It's just not fulfilling.

I main C-rax and also use the other Cyborgs, A few ninjas, a black guy, the guy with the kitana, and a fellow in need of a dentist appointment. I often get his AA out a little late and I eat a full/partial combo. I see the pattern but I cant move until the are over me. Maybe Im late. I hate...no I absolutely loathe eating the that JP when I know I have other tools to stop it.

I've tried the NJP seems I am losing the reaction war, even though I am hitting punch and the first available moment which is immediately. I believe lol.

*side note - during my lunch break today I went home and played a couple matches. I had my first experience with Sheeva tele-stomp spam. It was interesting to say the least. Didnt bother me much tho.
 
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