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I will say one of my main complaints for kotal khan in story is who beats him. Shan Khan only lost to liu and raiden, he is the ruler and bad@$$ of out world. He lost to the champion and a Thunder god, I'm okay with that. Shinnok lost to Johnny the new champion, even loosing to Cassie who overcame the odds, I'm ok with that. But Kotal looses to a bunch of kids all day long, know wonder mileena ruled for so long. D'vorah is more of a killer and powerhouse then he is in story, I understand you have to loose but he just seemed like a wimp. You can even tell at points with erron and D'vorah where they seem put out with kotal when he looses.
 
Shinnok was beaten, I mean, lost on Kombat.

That's the big secret of the champions. They are skilled fighters, and on Kombat, that's what matters, no matter who you are.

Of course Shinnok is a master with MILLIONS of years of experience.

But sometimes you have other things to help you too.

Notice that, if Shinnok didn't think to kill Sonya on his first (second) invasion, he could have picked the Amulet and maybe he could had a better result.
 
I've just realised - while locked in the Amulet, Shinnok changed his clothes :laugh:

IMO to silly clothes.

Seriously, that hat, you look at endings, it really looks like horns.

But in game, it's like a fancy silly hat. That lack of clothes in the arms too.

IMO his alternate is extremely superior. Fits perfectly on him. The hat, the clothing, the Amulet on the chest...

I don't know how Raiden didn't look to him like "pftch...*ROFL* YOU SPENT 25 YEARS DESIGNING A NEW COSTUME??" (electrifies the floor, Amulet falls, trap him again).

"By the name of good looks, the Jinsei of fashion, never return!"
 
I've just realised - while locked in the Amulet, Shinnok changed his clothes :laugh:

"I'm being released soon?-"
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I will say one of my main complaints for kotal khan in story is who beats him. Shan Khan only lost to liu and raiden, he is the ruler and bad@$$ of out world. He lost to the champion and a Thunder god, I'm okay with that. Shinnok lost to Johnny the new champion, even loosing to Cassie who overcame the odds, I'm ok with that. But Kotal looses to a bunch of kids all day long, know wonder mileena ruled for so long. D'vorah is more of a killer and powerhouse then he is in story, I understand you have to loose but he just seemed like a wimp. You can even tell at points with erron and D'vorah where they seem put out with kotal when he looses.

I don't necessarily mind Kotal losing to Kung Jin. Kung Jin is Kung Lao's cousin. He trained at the same academy that produced Liu Kang and Kung Lao. He could very well be the next Liu Kang in terms of raw skill... although the story really doesn't hype him up enough.

Jacqui had zero business beating Kotal Kahn right after she beat Ferra/Torr, though. That's just nonsense. I hate everything about her chapter. And her character. It's just a perfect combination of hateable things as far as I'm concerned.
 
You go on YouTube and you see "all intros".

But I think there is something as sekret as "stage brutalities".

Stages influence on intros and some quotes on the fight.

I saw Sub-Zero mentioning his stage while playing, and I've just saw Shinnok mentioning THIS Netherrealm while on Crossroads against Shinnok.
 
I don't necessarily mind Kotal losing to Kung Jin. Kung Jin is Kung Lao's cousin. He trained at the same academy that produced Liu Kang and Kung Lao. He could very well be the next Liu Kang in terms of raw skill... although the story really doesn't hype him up enough.

Jacqui had zero business beating Kotal Kahn right after she beat Ferra/Torr, though. That's just nonsense. I hate everything about her chapter. And her character. It's just a perfect combination of hateable things as far as I'm concerned.
Exactly, I just find him to be portrayed as a weak leader after the story. Shao khan wouldn't have cowarded to shinnok, kotal was freaking out. Trying to appease shinnok, really you might meet him but you ain't leaving.
 
Anyone want me to drop ladder endings for Jason, Tanya, Predator and Tremor? Or has that been already posted?

I also have the character intros for DLC.

Posting in new thread.
 
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Once I asked Vogel, he said that nothing of that is clear.

So, they just wanted Kahn to kill Blaze, and **** the rest. I hate this non canon holocausts.

Anyway, what I said about Raiden killing Taven, it's because, if you consider that his first vision is that one, and he had a deal with Shao Kahn, the one he arbitrarily breaks, it COULD have strong evidence that Raiden killed Taven.

Vogel said that it's not clear who beat Taven. They've left that open.

His own words:

"Yeah the idea was that Kahn beat Blaze, got super powered as a reward, then killed Earthrealm (which is not so obvious in the movie). [...] It's not really clear who beat Taven. We left that open."


I don't really understand the confusion. It's left opened who defeated Taven, but I doubt it was Raiden. MK Armageddon's konquest is canon and it ends after Taven defeats Daegon and Blaze is unleashed. "Now face me in Mortal Kombat" he screams as Taven walks through that portal swinging his sword. Epic! But the actual fight between them is just an extra scene, so Taven never defeated Blaze. Shinnok corrupted the competition between the brothers and informed everyone of the prize, sending his own clone to lead his army, somehow being aware that the timeline will be reversed. In my opinion, it was him who enslaved Blaze to the Dragon King's priests in the first place, as he admits to Daegon in the konquest mode: "All things have lead to this moment". The reason for his actions was to ensure the death of Shao Kahn. It was never stated, but it's a fact that Shinnok attacked in both timelines AFTER Shao Kahn was defeated. Why? It must be that, despite all his insanity, Shao Kahn would have helped the Elder Gods and Raiden if Hell had attacked. As long as Outworld had him as Emperor (10.000 years) Shinnok never attacked the realms. Sure, he didn't have the Amulet, but Bi Han brought it to him even before MK1.
It's just a theory of mine, but I think that Shinnok had been stopped by an alliance between the Elder Gods' warriors (Raiden and Fujin) and Shao Kahn all those thousands of years ago and I'll continue to believe that if not disproved. It would make Shao Kahn a warrior a lot more intelligent, as he seeks the power of the realms, but not their Apocalypse.

With Shinnok and Shao Kahn gone, I doubt that there's any reason for Armageddon anymore, but I would love for Taven and Daegon to be playable in the next game.
 
I don't really understand the confusion. It's left opened who defeated Taven, but I doubt it was Raiden. MK Armageddon's konquest is canon and it ends after Taven defeats Daegon and Blaze is unleashed. "Now face me in Mortal Kombat" he screams as Taven walks through that portal swinging his sword. Epic! But the actual fight between them is just an extra scene, so Taven never defeated Blaze. Shinnok corrupted the competition between the brothers and informed everyone of the prize, sending his own clone to lead his army, somehow being aware that the timeline will be reversed. In my opinion, it was him who enslaved Blaze to the Dragon King's priests in the first place, as he admits to Daegon in the konquest mode: "All things have lead to this moment". The reason for his actions was to ensure the death of Shao Kahn. It was never stated, but it's a fact that Shinnok attacked in both timelines AFTER Shao Kahn was defeated. Why? It must be that, despite all his insanity, Shao Kahn would have helped the Elder Gods and Raiden if Hell had attacked. As long as Outworld had him as Emperor (10.000 years) Shinnok never attacked the realms. Sure, he didn't have the Amulet, but Bi Han brought it to him even before MK1.
It's just a theory of mine, but I think that Shinnok had been stopped by an alliance between the Elder Gods' warriors (Raiden and Fujin) and Shao Kahn all those thousands of years ago and I'll continue to believe that if not disproved. It would make Shao Kahn a warrior a lot more intelligent, as he seeks the power of the realms, but not their Apocalypse.

With Shinnok and Shao Kahn gone, I doubt that there's any reason for Armageddon anymore, but I would love for Taven and Daegon to be playable in the next game.
John Vogel stated that Taven did not defeat Blaze, but Shao Kahn did. It's possible that other events surrounding the end of MK:A are kept canon, as you said.

My point is based on Raiden's first vision. We know someone defeated Taven, but we don't know who or what moment after or during his fight with Raiden (since he appears fighting against Raiden, we can say that the events that led there did happened) he was defeated/killed. As Raiden had this mission, his first vision (thus last happening), a pact with Kahn, future winner, and confronted him in the end led me to the possible idea that he defeated Taven. Not konfirmed, obviously.

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Though once again in a ridiculous portrayal on MK:A, Shinnok for sure was the mind that gave the ultimate traces to the battle of Armageddon.

But I doubt he had any knowledge of the possibility of the timeline change.

His main plan was to take out Shao Kahn and weaken Earthrealm, but it wasn't possible on MK3. He planned that because, as seen on MK9, he wanted to invade Earth AND Outworld, which would be easier without Kahn and without ouro defenders.

As Liu Kang defeated the Emperor and made him withdraw his forces, I believe Shinnok's plans had partially failed, and for that reason he decided to invade Edenia, that was freed from Outworld, instead of invading Earth at first, since our heroes were intact and Shao Kahn still existed, making harder to invade Outworld. On the current changed timeline, his plans were a success, since Kahn was killed and Earth heroes were not only defeated but allied to the Dark Lord.

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IMO, Armageddon is not avoided.

It was never caused by Shao Kahn or Shinnok. They only accelerated the process and the later has corrupted the quest, not created the end of all things.

As stated, Armageddon is the end of all things caused by numerous kombatants tearing apart the fabric of reality. While Shinnok, mastermind of corruption, and Shao Kahn, warlord, are out of the scene, new fighters appear and mostly important, Raiden follows the very footsteps of his alter ego on the unchanged timeline, and he surely helped to that ending, he even made a pact with Darkness.

Now he is much more angry, capable (he is indeed Earthrealm's protector, he wasn't on the unchanged timeline) and powerful (possessing the Amulet). At the same time, more heroes and villains (+ kombat) and we don't know the current status of some threats (like Onaga).

The quest was a solution, no matter how they smash the flowers, spring is still a truth.

Obs.: Of course Shao Kahn wants to destroy the realms. It's exactly what he does at the end of Armageddon, according to Vogel.

Sent from Earthrealm. Please, beware the Thunder God!
 
Do you guys think Reiko died?

Spoiler:
In a retrospection D'Vorah tells Mileena: "Your last ally has left you." (Talking about Baraka)


Does this mean Reiko died?
 
Do you guys think Reiko died?

Spoiler:
In a retrospection D'Vorah tells Mileena: "Your last ally has left you." (Talking about Baraka)


Does this mean Reiko died?

Probably. Unless he goes into hiding. We'll just have to see what happens on Shang's Island.
 
Do you guys think Reiko died?

Spoiler:
In a retrospection D'Vorah tells Mileena: "Your last ally has left you." (Talking about Baraka)


Does this mean Reiko died?
Well, the armistice between Earthrealm and Outworld has got to be called the Reiko Accords for a reason. Perhaps Reiko...
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committed extremely severe War Krimes against Earthrealm and ended up getting executed for it.


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Since we didn't hear one word about Havik or Reiko in Story, [Besides Reiko accords]
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I'm assuming they both die in the comics.

No issues from either of them.
 
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