OMG Im such a great Kung Lao and Raiden player!!!!

Zafiro said:
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Kung Lao is and always will be Overpowered. He has simply too many moves/is too versatile.
2) Raiden has no bad match-ups either and comprises the top 2 along with Kung Lao.

it is well known throughout the MK tourney scene (what little of it there is) that these two characters need slight nerfs... and NO, NRS, not DAMAGE nerfs, but property nerfs on their special moves.
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If raidens teleport gets nerfed then NRS better give him a low starter because if he loses that he will have nothing. He already has no good consistent anti air without using meter, his superman while a very good punisher, can be easily punished itself. Ending combos with vicinity blast is really the only thing to do to continue pressure after blocked strings (excluding teleport)but that doesn't even work on most top tier characters. His teleport can be punishesd easilly on reaction with so many specials, kano up ball, nightwolfs dash, johnnys kick, kung lows spin, reptile dash, mileenas roll, jax punch, raidens own superman, etc, low pokes, fast normals, fast upper cuts, whatever. Lets talk about mileenas teleport if u want cheap, it can be spammed from anywhere anytime, and can be canceld with her knives to make it completely safe. talk about bull shit
 
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Mileena'sDentist said:
christ alive, yer not understanding my point.
'he is overpowered, plain and simple. however, overpowered does not mean unbeatable.'
do you understand what this means? i already said in an earlier post that i have no real trouble against kung laos anymore because they play overly aggressive and love to spin(but then again, i've never played a skilled one, so. . .)
as for me having balls online: this is a video game! this isn't serious enough for me to boast or complain. mk is not my life. it's not even a hobby. it's a. . .video game.


i didn't come at you foul; read my first post in reply to yours, then read your reply to me. you started the name calling. if you misinterpreted my first post as snarky, i apologise.

oh, and i have a ps3. :)
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apoligy accepted. I apologise as well. but I still don't think they're OP lol.
 
FatalityRay90 said:
thank you ames. I remember you lol. that was a good fight. but u do have to admit that kratos damage output is a little off the charts lol. and thank you on agreeing with mw about mileenas mixups. so clearly mileena is harder for you than lao lol. that's wat I'm trying to say.
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to an extent yes he is but the way i use him he's not if that makes sense i don't use his triangle hold circle or any of the others unless i'm being demolished or any of his ex moves because i like to give him as much credibility when i beat someone but it always end's the same with raging hate mail but yes thats what i was saying.

i tell people no one is op it's all in the way there used but that may be wrong for most people it's the character that makes the player not the player makes the character.

i use kratos better than any one i've seen use him on youtube in person or online (against real players not against standstill's in practice) and never once have i said that kratos makes me better.
 
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Im sorry im going to have to agree that both these characters are overpowered.. Kung Lao purely on gameplay, and Raiden because of the online delay allowing him constant free setups.

There is a reason that half the top tourney match players pick Kung Lao... Search "pro mk9 tourney match" or something along those lines.. I would bet you 100$ you will end up watching a match with a Kung Lao, who ofcourse ends up winning. Everytime i watch a tourney match with Kung Lao he ends up winning.

His spin is too fast recovery, way too fast, there is a glitch with his 2 4 1+2 combo that allows him to keep doing it repeaditly, thats a high low medium combo worked on you repeaditly with literally no time in between to escape. People have been using this cheap tactic to rank up high in ranked.


Im a 38 Trueskill in ranked 1v1 and a 41 Trueskill in ranked tag and lately ive just been playing as random, and basically everytime I face a 38+ and pick random, they STILL go all tryhard and pick Raiden or Kung Lao because as other characters they suck.

Raidens not even overpowered gameplay wise, and offline his teleport is easily punishable, but the more a game lags, the more raiden can kick ass with his teleports, why couldnt they be more like rains teleports?
 
Jamezz420 said:
Im sorry im going to have to agree that both these characters are overpowered.. Kung Lao purely on gameplay, and Raiden because of the online delay allowing him constant free setups.

There is a reason that half the top tourney match players pick Kung Lao... Search "pro mk9 tourney match" or something along those lines.. I would bet you 100$ you will end up watching a match with a Kung Lao, who ofcourse ends up winning. Everytime i watch a tourney match with Kung Lao he ends up winning.

His spin is too fast recovery, way too fast, there is a glitch with his 2 4 1+2 combo that allows him to keep doing it repeaditly, thats a high low medium combo worked on you repeaditly with literally no time in between to escape. People have been using this cheap tactic to rank up high in ranked.


Im a 38 Trueskill in ranked 1v1 and a 41 Trueskill in ranked tag and lately ive just been playing as random, and basically everytime I face a 38+ and pick random, they STILL go all tryhard and pick Raiden or Kung Lao because as other characters they suck.

Raidens not even overpowered gameplay wise, and offline his teleport is easily punishable, but the more a game lags, the more raiden can kick ass with his teleports, why couldnt they be more like rains teleports?
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I've talked about Kung Lao in other threads and honestly, most of the time Kung Lao discussions turn into rage/flame fests so I'm steering clear haha. Juuuust not worth the trouble.

My comment is about what you said at the end of your post about Raiden. First off, thank you for acknowledging the difference between online Raiden and offline. It drives me nuts to hear people think he's overpowered simply because he's so tough to beat online. The handicaps that online players have to deal with (myself included) have absolutely no bearing on the strength of any character (Scorpion being the best example of that, in my opinion). My problem is that you then go back and wish Raiden's teleport would be altered so, I assume, it would be easier to handle online. That would be problematic because offline his teleport really doesn't need that nerf and Raiden would suffer unduly. It's not Raiden's fault that the netcode isn't up to snuff or that someone's internet connection isn't keeping up or whatever.

PS - If you weren't seriously suggesting the teleport buff and I'm misreading your post then I cheerfully withdraw my comment lol.
 
ermacsdshit said:
If raidens teleport gets nerfed then NRS better give him a low starter because if he loses that he will have nothing. He already has no good consistent anti air without using meter, his superman while a very good punisher, can be easily punished itself. Ending combos with vicinity blast is really the only thing to do to continue pressure after blocked strings (excluding teleport)but that doesn't even work on most top tier characters. His teleport can be punishesd easilly on reaction with so many specials, kano up ball, nightwolfs dash, johnnys kick, kung lows spin, reptile dash, mileenas roll, jax punch, raidens own superman, etc, low pokes, fast normals, fast upper cuts, whatever. Lets talk about mileenas teleport if u want cheap, it can be spammed from anywhere anytime, and can be canceld with her knives to make it completely safe. talk about bull shit
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yet another person who is proving my point. raideb nor kung lao r OP.
 
ermacsdshit said:
If raidens teleport gets nerfed then NRS better give him a low starter because if he loses that he will have nothing. He already has no good consistent anti air without using meter, his superman while a very good punisher, can be easily punished itself. Ending combos with vicinity blast is really the only thing to do to continue pressure after blocked strings (excluding teleport)but that doesn't even work on most top tier characters. His teleport can be punishesd easilly on reaction with so many specials, kano up ball, nightwolfs dash, johnnys kick, kung lows spin, reptile dash, mileenas roll, jax punch, raidens own superman, etc, low pokes, fast normals, fast upper cuts, whatever. Lets talk about mileenas teleport if u want cheap, it can be spammed from anywhere anytime, and can be canceld with her knives to make it completely safe. talk about bull shit
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Not to mention his mix-ups which are pretty bad.
 
Tom Brady himself said nrs screwed up and Lao and raider are op and are the only flawless characters.

Check the Thursday night fights thing from a week ago on Justin tv.
 
*off topic - but that avatar of Jade may be the hotest picture of any female video game character EVAAA!!


carry on...
 
Not counting online, please tell me how they are overpowered? I will tell you how to cover that option while avoiding traps. People do know a blocked spin is a full combo these days? Jade's B1 is pretty slow on start up and I have enough time to dash in after block on Laos spin and do B1. I can punish raidens teleport on reaction online fine. It is slightly harder than offline but not impossible. Some advice go to training mode set Kung Lao to do wake up attacks trip him block then practice the timing to punish him put of his spin. If you can't punish the spin cuz the punish window is small thats your fault not Kung Laos.
 
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