Konfirmed Kharacters for Mortal Kombat (2011) (some spoilers)

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Along with them, Dairou, Hotaru, Darrius, and Kobra can go away too and never come back.

i thought hotaru was good. dairou and kobra were ok. and darrius was just gay. there are some characters past mk trilogy that are great. there were alot of crap characters past mk trilogy as well, but the ones i liked were quan chi, shinnok, reiko, fujin, tanya, kenshi, li mei, frost, nitara, moloch, hotaru, havok, diarou, kira, kobra, and onaga. the rest well i probably agree with u about them.
 
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i thought hotaru was good. dairou and kobra were ok. and darrius was just gay. there are some characters past mk trilogy that are great. there were alot of crap characters past mk trilogy as well, but the ones i liked were quan chi, shinnok, reiko, fujin, tanya, kenshi, li mei, moloch, hotaru, havok, diarou, kira, kobra, and onaga. the rest well i probably agree with u about them.

Yeah i can agree with this, imo i think all other characters where just made to introduce new faces and fill rosters, not really have a future in the MK world.
 
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That's another one who could be written off into oblivion. He's little more than a Kabal rip-off from a rival clan, and I don't think being a Grease reject is any better than a cleaning guy with a respirator.

Most would have accepted Mavado, if he was in 2D, and portrayed by an actor.

Besides, are people going to believe that a Janitor in a respirator is a fighter, or are they going to believe that a guy in all black and a clear-as-day gang/clan jacket is a fighter? One actually looks the part; one looks like a clown.


Because some random general-turned-traitor is so much more significant than 1/2 of the most notorious duo of the series. Reiko has no history and no significance within the first 3 games, so he has no reason to make an appearance. Noob has been a part of the series since MKII, so he has plenty of reason to be there.

Nobody even knew exactly who Noob was before much later in the series. Until he was revealed as the older Sub-Zero, he was just some random hidden character and a lazy pallet swipe. Even his name was considered a complete joke, until everyone considered it some serious name once his back story was finally told.


Troll harder, ass.

Grow some thicker skin, brother. Fact is, people would have loved some of the newer 3D characters, had they been in 2D and/or and pallet swipes. You're not going to tell me that characters in MK only became terrible when the series hit 3D.


Originally, Noob Saibot was to be in Reiko's place on the character selection grid for Mortal Kombat 4. It was decided that the game had too many ninjas already, which was a subject of complaint from Mortal Kombat Trilogy, the game most immediately prior to Mortal Kombat 4. Also, Noob Saibot was described as being too hard to see in some stages as he blended into the background very easily, so he was renamed and made into Reiko. The outfit for Reiko was not changed from the outfit created for the Noob Saibot character model; only the character's head and spiked gauntlets were added. Home versions of Mortal Kombat 4 included Noob Saibot as a secret character, and it can clearly be seen that the character model is virtually identical to Reiko.

Hey Stryker do your home work before you shot off you mouth every now and then.:razz: This one is an easy one. He has The Brotherhood of Shadows logo on his back for god's sakes.

There's a huge difference between Reiko being a Noob-evolved character, and someone like Jarek. Sure, Reiko took Noob's place, but Reiko has an actual story (that had the potential to become so much more and really change the story) and his own move set. Noob never even had his own distinct move set (or a story, for that matter), until MK hit 3D. Jarek, on the other hand, is a straight Kano knock-off; there's not much to distinguish Jarek. There's a lot to distinguish Reiko from Noob.

Nice try, but I'm not some guy who fell out of a truck, and just got into MK. I've been playing MK since the early 90s.
 
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Most would have accepted Mavado, if he was in 2D, and portrayed by an actor.
No one cares who they make it onto the screen, but a lot of us don’t see a point in giving a new character moves from another character without good reason. If we only wanted flat, digitized characters, none of the old-schoolers would be excited about MK9. Since all you're good at is trolling, I don't really care if you admit that you alerady know this, so you can keep pretending this is what we want/think.
Besides, are people going to believe that a Janitor in a respirator is a fighter, or are they going to believe that a guy in all black and a clear-as-day gang/clan jacket is a fighter? One actually looks the part; one looks like a clown.
No. One looks like a desperate mofo who’s barely alive and the other looks like he’s about to break into song. Dunno who YOU'd consider more intimidating, but I know who I'd be more afraid of.

Besides, why would they replace a perfectly good character with a new one without a good reason? Seems like a excuse for poor story-telling, much like this time travel BS with MK9.
Nobody even knew exactly who Noob was before much later in the series. Until he was revealed as the older Sub-Zero, he was just some random hidden character and a lazy pallet swipe. Even his name was considered a complete joke, until everyone considered it some serious name once his back story was finally told.
Not knowing his exact origins and not even existing aren’t that far apart, but I think having some sort of involvement since the beginning of the series trumps being a half-assed traitor/move-thief who was slapped into the game simply for visual purposes.

Oh, and it’s pallet SWAP, not swipe.
Grow some thicker skin, brother. Fact is, people would have loved some of the newer 3D characters, had they been in 2D and/or and pallet swipes. You're not going to tell me that characters in MK only became terrible when the series hit 3D.
:rolleyes: Like I said, troll harder. You know this isn’t what ANYONE really thinks.
There's a huge difference between Reiko being a Noob-evolved character, and someone like Jarek. Sure, Reiko took Noob's place, but Reiko has an actual story (that had the potential to become so much more and really change the story) and his own move set. Noob never even had his own distinct move set (or a story, for that matter), until MK hit 3D. Jarek, on the other hand, is a straight Kano knock-off; there's not much to distinguish Jarek. There's a lot to distinguish Reiko from Noob.
Having a deeper story doesn’t make him any less of a rip-off when the core of a FIGHTING GAME is the moves. Yeah, Jarek can take a hike too, but that Reiko’s just as guilty of “stealing” moves as Jarek.
Nice try, but I'm not some guy who fell out of a truck, and just got into MK. I've been playing MK since the early 90s.
You also think slow-paced 3D fighters are better than fast-paced technical fighters.
 
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I felt they started creating bad characters when Jax was introduced in MK2, then they followed it up with Kabal, Stryker(sorry above poster), and Sheeva. Then the list does get bigger. All in all though with so many characters it's impossible for everyone to like them all. Someone is going to have to hate some, and others are going to hate others. Although, **** Sheeva. Just thought I'd throw that in there. To be honest though none of the characters, except Mokap are completely pointless. I don't think people's hate for the 3d generation comes from either the fact they're not actors anymore, or the fact they like 2D, that's the same time that Tobias(main storyline guy) left, and in doing that are taste from the series had grown used to his mind. With him gone, it's like a different brain is feeding us and it just doesn't seem to taste as good.
 
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There's a huge difference between Reiko being a Noob-evolved character, and someone like Jarek. Sure, Reiko took Noob's place, but Reiko has an actual story (that had the potential to become so much more and really change the story) and his own move set. Noob never even had his own distinct move set (or a story, for that matter), until MK hit 3D. Jarek, on the other hand, is a straight Kano knock-off; there's not much to distinguish Jarek. There's a lot to distinguish Reiko from Noob.

Nice try, but I'm not some guy who fell out of a truck, and just got into MK. I've been playing MK since the early 90s.

I give you that Reiko is not that bad of a rip off character and he is one of the 4 3d characters that I liked: Reiko, Quan Chi, Shinnok, and Havik. (Fujin was a passable characters just needed work) But 2 of them started out as Noob so at least show Mr.Saibot some love for that if nothing else.
 
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@kurtisstryker: ya man, i wont just dislike characters just because the series went 3d. thats just stupid. i believe you about noob and reiko, i like both of them, but ya noob had no real story till like deception. i like to see characters in a game that we actually know why they are there. i dont really consider many characters a knock off of anyone. even frost isnt a knock off of sub zero, like just because they both freeze stuff doesnt make her a knock off, and for goodness sake kenshi is not an ermac knock off. i hate when people say that. the only characters i really consider knock offs of other characters are chameleon and kameleon. there just sorta ripping off the other ninjas. sorta. yes theres a few characters after mk trilogy that would have been great to see back in the 2d mks. movado would have been much better if he'd been introduced in the earlier mks. but of course people cant give up the mid 90's for some reason, so they'll continue to hate whoever gets introduced in the future mk games. its kinda sad actually.
 
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My favorite post MK3 characters are actually Tanya, Nitara, Li Mei, and Sareena. The rest, I don't really care about as much.
 
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You also think slow-paced 3D fighters are better than fast-paced technical fighters.

I wasn't aware that Street Fighter, which I consider to be the best fighting game(s) of all time, was a slow-paced 3D fighter. Get your facts straight.

Either way, I'm amused that you're taking a disagreement over MORTAL KOMBAT so personally. Trolling? Seriously, guy?
 
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I wasn't aware that Street Fighter, which I consider to be the best fighting game(s) of all time, was a slow-paced 3D fighter. Get your facts straight.

Either way, I'm amused that you're taking a disagreement over MORTAL KOMBAT so personally. Trolling? Seriously, guy?

this is a forum about mortal kombat. it happens. get your facts straight to man.
 
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Talking about SF in the main MK threads = boring, a big no and lets move on to MK. ^_-

Back on track.

@Nasty, I like Fujin, but agree he needed work, though its debatable on the whole "post MK3" because while he does appear then, the timeline he is already activate thank to the Sub-Zero myth game.

In fact lets look where everyone was during the MK3 period;

Active in the MK3 period - involved:
Characters who existed and were directly involved but only mentioned to be later on in the rewrites and additions to the storyline.
-Shinnok - MK: SZ Myth - takes place prior to MK. Apparently also helping Shoa Kahn anyway during the MK - MK3 period
-Quan Chi - What hasn't he been rewritten to be involved with? Orginally MK:SZ myth though.

Active at time of storyline - dormant:
They were activate before or during, but silent until post MK3
-Fujin - seen in MK: SZ Myth, not involved until MK4, was activated by Shinnok's attack in MK4, dependable return.
-Dragon King - won't be active until the events of MK:D, but had already existed before then, avoidable activation
-Taven - asleep until MK:Arm, avoidable activation
-Shinjinko - didn't really get reinvolved until MK:D. But was active prior to MK:SZ Myth even, dependable return, though may be not likely.

Active at time of storyline - independant:
Basically they were not involved with the main stuff, but still doing other stuff at the time. minr stuff really.
-Sareena - did nothing really much during the MK- MK3 period but there for MK:SZ Myth and on the run during since those events
-Bo'Ra'Cho - training fighters even before MK: SZ Myth, but not big time active until MK:DA
-Ashrah - already said to be working with her sword but not doing anything directly until MK:D
-Blaze - again, but not involved until MK:DA
-Daegon - involved with the Red Dragon, hwoever not big important until MK:Arm
-Dairou - active but doing fluff for all I care while MK 3 and pre were going on bufore MK:D
-Darrius - ditto
-Havik - appears in MK:D, but active long before it.
-Hotaru - ditto
-Jarek - Black Dragon, MK:SF but is believed active during the MK - MK3 events.
-Movado - active, doing whatever he was doing prior to MK:DA.
-Hso Hoa - ditto
-Kitara - Active... independantly looking for a way to free her realm.
-Reiko - honestly, I don't know what he was doing but apparently aside from that was helmet stealing.

Not Active at all;
Hadn't yet done anything big or eventful
-Frost - pretty much not a lot to say.
-Drahim - ditto
-Kai - MK4 nothing before that.
-Kanshi - nothing much
-Kira - not active
-Kobra - who cares?
-Li Mei - if she was active, it wasn't big time
-Mokap - whatever
-Moloch - likewise
-Tanya - don't know if she did anything...

The ones in the first group - can appear anytime. The second, need a trigger to get involved again, whatever that particular trigger was. The third need to be written into the storyline, but it means their seperate events need to be written into it, which could or could not be tricky. The fourth are the ones with the most independance to return when the MK feels like it or not at all.

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Of the 3 groups, its hard to say what will happen. Group no.4 is the fluff that may not return, group no.3 however is dependable and group no.2 is avoidable to make return completely.
 
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That's good thinking there but if it wasn't for deception rewriting the entire storyline almost then a lot of that list wouldn't exist.

I mean every character from 4 on has some kind of story to make them available in a "they were doing something during this time frame" but that's not the point.

For all I care Taven could have been giving shoa kahn blow jobs during mk2, we didn't have him as a selectable fighter, or a hidden opponent, or even in the background of either 1, 2, or 3... so he won't be in this game.
 
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Oh great. As if Nasty_Freak needed any more ideas...
 
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Well if you look at this way, everything up until MK:DA was pretty good writing, even Johnny's storyline could be passed due to the events of the MK4 storyline being within reason. Its from MK:DA they got into serious writing overhaul and it went too far. In other words, the events of MK4 are acceptable, after that they are hard to swallow without 3 hours spare to think about what is and isn't offical now.

This list is just a check up though of who and who can't get back in easily, everyone in the active but dormant list is skippable, everyone in the active but independant list is avoidable and everyone in the not involved list can be ignored safely. Its only the ones in the Active involved list I'm expecting references mentoned a lot and possible returns, Quan Chi definate, Shinnok only as a storyline or boss.

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Also the list wasn't for Nasty, because honestly, todays a day when others' ideas are mildly in my interests, I'm more interested today in whats already happened in MK, hence the list.
 
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That's good thinking there but if it wasn't for deception rewriting the entire storyline almost then a lot of that list wouldn't exist.

I mean every character from 4 on has some kind of story to make them available in a "they were doing something during this time frame" but that's not the point.

For all I care Taven could have been giving shoa kahn blow jobs during mk2, we didn't have him as a selectable fighter, or a hidden opponent, or even in the background of either 1, 2, or 3... so he won't be in this game.

lmao good shit bro
 
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Talking about SF in the main MK threads = boring, a big no and lets move on to MK. ^_-

Back on track.

@Nasty, I like Fujin, but agree he needed work, though its debatable on the whole "post MK3" because while he does appear then, the timeline he is already activate thank to the Sub-Zero myth game.

In fact lets look where everyone was during the MK3 period;

Active in the MK3 period - involved:
Characters who existed and were directly involved but only mentioned to be later on in the rewrites and additions to the storyline.
-Shinnok - MK: SZ Myth - takes place prior to MK. Apparently also helping Shoa Kahn anyway during the MK - MK3 period
-Quan Chi - What hasn't he been rewritten to be involved with? Orginally MK:SZ myth though.

Active at time of storyline - dormant:
They were activate before or during, but silent until post MK3
-Fujin - seen in MK: SZ Myth, not involved until MK4, was activated by Shinnok's attack in MK4, dependable return.
-Dragon King - won't be active until the events of MK:D, but had already existed before then, avoidable activation
-Taven - asleep until MK:Arm, avoidable activation
-Shinjinko - didn't really get reinvolved until MK:D. But was active prior to MK:SZ Myth even, dependable return, though may be not likely.

Active at time of storyline - independant:
Basically they were not involved with the main stuff, but still doing other stuff at the time. minr stuff really.
-Sareena - did nothing really much during the MK- MK3 period but there for MK:SZ Myth and on the run during since those events
-Bo'Ra'Cho - training fighters even before MK: SZ Myth, but not big time active until MK:DA
-Ashrah - already said to be working with her sword but not doing anything directly until MK:D
-Blaze - again, but not involved until MK:DA
-Daegon - involved with the Red Dragon, hwoever not big important until MK:Arm
-Dairou - active but doing fluff for all I care while MK 3 and pre were going on bufore MK:D
-Darrius - ditto
-Havik - appears in MK:D, but active long before it.
-Hotaru - ditto
-Jarek - Black Dragon, MK:SF but is believed active during the MK - MK3 events.
-Movado - active, doing whatever he was doing prior to MK:DA.
-Hso Hoa - ditto
-Kitara - Active... independantly looking for a way to free her realm.
-Reiko - honestly, I don't know what he was doing but apparently aside from that was helmet stealing.

Not Active at all;
Hadn't yet done anything big or eventful
-Frost - pretty much not a lot to say.
-Drahim - ditto
-Kai - MK4 nothing before that.
-Kanshi - nothing much
-Kira - not active
-Kobra - who cares?
-Li Mei - if she was active, it wasn't big time
-Mokap - whatever
-Moloch - likewise
-Tanya - don't know if she did anything...

The ones in the first group - can appear anytime. The second, need a trigger to get involved again, whatever that particular trigger was. The third need to be written into the storyline, but it means their seperate events need to be written into it, which could or could not be tricky. The fourth are the ones with the most independance to return when the MK feels like it or not at all.

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Of the 3 groups, its hard to say what will happen. Group no.4 is the fluff that may not return, group no.3 however is dependable and group no.2 is avoidable to make return completely.

Good point. I knew Nitara and Sareena were pretty much active in the early days of MK some how. As for Tanya, I think she was one of the ones caught under control of evil while Edenia was under control. I mean in her MK4 bio, Sindel opens a portal and somehow Tanya turns evil under the control Shinnok. That part can be the events of MK3. I don't know I'm just guessing based on what I remember.

@Eks: There's nothing wrong with my ideas babe.
 
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ya it would make sense for SOME characters after mk trilogy to be in the game. some were active on mk1 -3, but of course they werent introduced in the 2d mks so everyone wont want them in.
@angel: to say "ditto, likewise, whatever, or nothing much" isnt really saying anything, if anything its just showing that you dont know what they were doing at this time. im not very shure what some of them were doing during mk1-3 but im shure some of the people you said "ditto, likewise, whatever, or nothing much" were doing something. you probably just dont like some of those characters, or all of them.
@eks: nasty freak probably already thought of that so just quit now.
 
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ya it would make sense for SOME characters after mk trilogy to be in the game. some were active on mk1 -3, but of course they werent introduced in the 2d mks so everyone wont want them in.
@angel: to say "ditto, likewise, whatever, or nothing much" isnt really saying anything, if anything its just showing that you dont know what they were doing at this time. im not very shure what some of them were doing during mk1-3 but im shure some of the people you said "ditto, likewise, whatever, or nothing much" were doing something. you probably just dont like some of those characters, or all of them.
@eks: nasty freak probably already thought of that so just quit now.

I got lazy I admit that... Hence "ditto", but I got lazy in the last section. In the active but independant section, it means they were doing more or less the same as the one above so I didn't feel like repeating myself, they were just doing all the background set up, whatever it was so it wasn't really much. Troule is with that last group is those characters were often like Frost, they just "appeared" with no or little backstory prior to the MK3 era storyline, hence "not a lot to say". In Frost's storyline is just pretty much pre-MK:DA, she doesn't even start right after MK4, its sometimes just before so she was the about on of the least involved characters with the game along with the two Oni and Mokap who was pointless. Kobra and Mokap are the only two my opinion effected my writing on in fact.

Kobra and Kira were properly doing stuff, but both were not big eventers like say Hotaru and Kobra was something like a two-bit thief. Regardless, the ones in the fourth group simply weren't doing anything major, reported for the actual MK storyline. Everything we know about them is after they appear within the storyline and as it progresses based on current events, it makes it hard to say much about them. During the MK - MK3 era , only oddities like Stryker were subject to this, although MK itself had it to a degree this can be swayed on the fact it was the first game in an era when having a background for every character more then 2 sentances longjust didn't happen that often.
 
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