Which Sub-Zero should return for MK10?

Who's the better Sub-Zero

  • Kuai Liang

    Votes: 3 42.9%

  • Bi-Han

    Votes: 4 57.1%
  • Total voters
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Revamp_Kombat

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Everyone is so obsessed with the Sub-Zero brothers. I WANT KUAI LIANG! I like Sub-Zero to be the good guy. I don't want a bad/neutral guy.

Bi-Han would never be a hero. Kuai Liang is the best.

Does anyone want Bi-Han or Kuai Liang? Make up your mind!
 
For MK10, just have Frost be the one with ice powers and kill her off during the game. Then in MK11, bring back Kuai Liang as human.
 
Nasty_Freak said:
For MK10, just have Frost be the one with ice powers and kill her off during the game. Then in MK11, bring back Kuai Liang as human.
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Although I hate Frost, why even bother bringing her in if they're just going to kill her off again?
This same logic applies to Liu Kang in MK9.
Made no sense to bring him back to his former glory, just to kill him off again.


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Even though my preference is Bi-Han, as long as 1 of the 2 brothers comes back as HUMAN Sub-Zero, I could care less.
MK10 just needs a HUMAN Sub-Zero.
 
Kuai Liang. 8 games to 1. Kuai Liang deserves it. So much for paying homage to the Tundra name mk team, now it gives people ammo to say Kuai Liang's not Sub-Zero, even though he's been Sub-Zero forever. I just baffles me really how people can take something meant to pay homage and turn it into making Kuai Liang out as not the real Sub-Zero. Enough said. I realize most people on this site like Bi-Han so moving on.
 
Bi Han all the way. Kuai is a pussy.



But for MK10, give me Cyber Sub. Don't make such a grave change and run away with your tail between your legs. Cyber Sub needs to be permanent. At least for a few games. Would make his inevitable human return so much sweeter. Plus he plays better than human
 
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Bi Han all the way. Kuai is a pussy.



But for MK10, give me Cyber Sub. Don't make such a grave change and run away with your tail between your legs. Cyber Sub needs to be permanent. At least for a few games. Would make his inevitable human return so much sweeter. Plus he plays better than human
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At the cost of sodium content flying left and right.

I wouldn't mind if Cyber Sub made a return, but Sub-Zero fans like Araknyd would flip shit. It makes sense but, it's just like a strange decision by NRS.

Maybe they should bring back Cyber Sub for the story and such but Human Sub-Zero could be a non-canon playable character? Kinda like how we got Kuai and Bi Han in UMK3.
 
Shirayuki Mizore said:
Maybe they should bring back Cyber Sub for the story and such but Human Sub-Zero could be a non-canon playable character?
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I'd be fine with that, or even as DLC, or as a Krypt unlockable.

For f***s sakes, maybe NRS can make a GOOD Krypt for MK10, next time around, and put the MK9 dead characters in the Krypt as unlockables.
Give us content worthy of being unlocked in the Krypt, NRS, not just stick a bunch figures.
Bring back "Cooking with Scorpion" too, you bishes.

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Human Sub-Zero doesn't have to be in the Story, but as long as there's a PLAYABLE human Sub-Zero, I'm good.
 
Araknyd_Commander said:
Although I hate Frost, why even bother bringing her in if they're just going to kill her off again?
This same logic applies to Liu Kang in MK9.
Made no sense to bring him back to his former glory, just to kill him off again.


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Even though my preference is Bi-Han, as long as 1 of the 2 brothers comes back as HUMAN Sub-Zero, I could care less.
MK10 just needs a HUMAN Sub-Zero.
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Well, it gives some Frost fans a chance to play as her again. But after her death, that's it for her. She should only come back as playable in a future MK game but not in the storyline.
 
Nasty_Freak said:
Well, it gives some Frost fans a chance to play as her again. But after her death, that's it for her. She should only come back as playable in a future MK game but not in the storyline.
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Frost has fans? I always thought Frost was one of the hated characters.

But anyways, like I said, it doesn't matter which sub-zero comes back. Which ever Sub-Zero comes back, he will have the same damn powers and we wouldn't know how the next sub-zero will play like. Storywise, each ever one comes back, they'll be good. If it's the one who was Noob Saibot, he'll seen so much shit that it'll make him want to kiss Raiden's ass and start doing good. Get revenge on Quan Chi and to save his brother and tell Scorpion it was Quan Chi who caused all the problems. From there, they'll be bad ass duo lol. They'll have to get through Saibot though. Which will be badass lol..

If it's the Cyber Sub-Zero that comes back, he'll want to fight on the good side for the shit Quan Chi has done to him. He'll have to beat the crap out of Scorpion to convince him to be on his side against Quan Chi. Noob Saibot would of been dead from the soul tornado :/. And Sub Zero could also blame the death of his brother on Quan Chi. Which could be an extra boast to his revenge. Cyborg would be a DLC.

Either way, both are gonna want revenge to get Quan Chi for being a douche bag. And along the lines, they'll get Scorpion to help out. So like I said, it wouldn't be much of a difference. They'll both have the same goal but just told differently.

But it doesn't matter who comes back to me, I just want regular Sub-Zero back :/.
 
How about neither

Someone on here suggested this a while back, but I'd rather have Sub-Zero's full Cryomancer father instead.

We already know how powerful his half-Cryomancer sons are, I'd love to see what a full Cryomancer is capable of.

Plus I'd like to see more good Outworld characters, and him being the last full-blooded Cryomancer alive can help make for a great story
 
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lol this thread.

@Araknyd, I think Nasty is saying that because it would be incredibly lazy to not bring back a character that has been in multiple games. If you hate the character it wouldn't make sense to just ignore the characters existence when she played a role in the game. But your hate is so great you couldn't see this lol. And just thought that an even better solution is that she just never exists ever again.

So Nasty is saying just bring her back and kill her. That way NRS isn't lame for not even bothering to mention her, and she's out of your hair forever.

But I really doubt she's gonna be gone so easily lol. I mean she's one of the few characters they actually made a model for in MK9, and wasn't she in CSZ screen as well?
 
Subz 711 said:
Kuai Liang. 8 games to 1. Kuai Liang deserves it. So much for paying homage to the Tundra name mk team, now it gives people ammo to say Kuai Liang's not Sub-Zero, even though he's been Sub-Zero forever. I just baffles me really how people can take something meant to pay homage and turn it into making Kuai Liang out as not the real Sub-Zero. Enough said. I realize most people on this site like Bi-Han so moving on.
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It's 8 games to 2.

You honestly can't tell me Kuai liang has done anything to improve the Character outside of becoming the Grandmaster. Yeah he found frost and his cryomancer origin. He added nothing to the over all story like his brother did.

When Bi han was Sub Zero he found the medallion for Quan Chi and help set up the story for MK4 and Quanchi turning on Shinnok, Killed scorpion, gods, and not only did he do those things he gave rise to 3 of the most popular characters in the Game, Scorpion, Sub Zero, and Noob saibot. You said in a different thread that Kuai Liang brought honor to the name Sub Zero, in the way you define honor yes he did. But within the Lin Kuei, and the standard set by his Brother he has brought nothing but shame to the name seeing as how, he disobyes orders, refused to kill when told to do so, and joined the forces of light. Bi han may have been neutral but he was devoted to his Clan and did anything asked of him. Including killing unjustly.

You can see the difference in respect the lin kuei had for the brothers during the MK1 and Mk3 parts of MK9 it went Sub Zero, Sektor, then Cyrax during Mk1. Then During the Mk3 Part of MK9 it went Sektor then Cyrax with Kuai Liang being last. So going on that small bit of information, the Lin kuei must see him as an inferior version. Why else would he go from general to lacky? and even if you come back with He's younger, so that doesn't matter, remember you said he is the stronger of the two so why wouldn't he just take the position his brother held? Could it be he was less repected? Or could it be he was not on the level his older brother was?

And you also Said that Kuai liang beating Noob Saibot is proof that he's stornger then Bi Han, but through out entire conversation you say Noob isn't Bi Han? You can't have him be what you want when it helps your point then turn around and say something different when it works against you. The point I'm trying to make is we don't know what bi Han could do if he was to become Sub Zero again, But we know what Kuai liang can do, we've already seen it and with the change set up in MK9 it seems Nrs does not wanna take that path again.
 
AMES32 said:
You honestly can't tell me Kuai liang has done anything to improve the Character outside of becoming the Grandmaster. Yeah he found frost and his cryomancer origin. He added nothing to the over all story like his brother did.
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Although I definitely agree that Bi-Han made a bigger impact on the story than Kuai Liang did, I wouldn't necessarily say it's fair to compare the stories of the two. Kuai Liang's story has always been of a smaller scale and more personal as it was about redeeming and finding himself as a person in addition to atoning for his previous sins. Bi-Han's Mythologies story was of a much larger scale since it involved retrieving a mystical artifact that would turn the tide of the Forces of Light's battle against Shinnok and the Netherrealm; Kuai Liang has never had the chance to do any of that since his role in the actual story isn't as significant as others. Before he could really make an impact on the overall story, Armageddon happened and pretty much killed any of the momentum that he and any of the other characters had storyline-wise during MK4-Deception. So let's wait and see what happens after he gets rescued from Quan Chi's spell because I don't believe we've seen all of Kuai Liang just yet and how he can contribute more to the overall story.

About the whole "who is the true Sub-Zero" discussion: I think the great thing about the Sub-Zero character is that the identity belongs to two very different people. So I don't think any interpretation of who and what Sub-Zero is and what he stood for is really wrong or invalid considering the fact that there are two Sub-Zeroes.

And to those arguing that Kuai Liang is more the "true" Sub-Zero because he was in many more games than him as Sub-Zero: you have to remember that all of those games only spanned a few years for Kuai Liang when he assumed the identity of Sub-Zero. The gap in time between MK2 to Deception might have been, what, a decade at most? Bi-Han has been Sub-Zero for the majority of his life. So, like I said, neither side is really wrong when they say that one or the other is the true Sub-Zero; it's subjective so it isn't really worth arguing
 
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