The Pledge to Boycott KP2

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Are you being serious? Did anyone here say "let's burn those casuals?" No. We say "let's burn NRS for being a$$holes". Do we indirectly blame casuals, because NRS caters to them now? No. It is good that there are more people joining the game, but if you favor one group of people more than the other, when there is an issue.

And you can't avoid that. It is a fact. There is a group of people who spent more time for the franchise and then there is a group of fresh new people. You can't avoid groups. They just happen. Especially as MK isn't some fresh new game. It is a game with 10+ years of history. There are people who come from MK1 days.
And it already makes it hard, as one group sees things differently than the other. But if developer manages to keep the balance, than it is easier for those two groups to coexist. But if suddenly developer decides to cater for one group more than the other, balance gets destroyed and you have "riots".

It works both ways. It also wouldn't be right if MK only favorited long term fans. That would be unfair for new players, who want to enter the scene.
But at the same time it is unfair, when developer starts putting new players above old ones. Cause then it looks like. Thanks for your support throughout all these years. But now you're old news so gtfo or enjoy getting shit in your face.

Why for example Street Fighter manages to do this shit without making a warzone. There are old hands who come from Street Fighter 1 days and then we have new players who came in through Street Fighter 4. Yet you don't see people there hanging each other. To be honest really friendly community. And that is because developer actually tries to learn from it's mistakes and believes in it's own material. That way they keep balance, and that is the reason why games like street fighter 4 flourished for so many years.

And here... it is more or less. Bitterness. I can't blame a casual new fan. He didn't do anything to me. But I do feel bitter when after YEARS of waiting, I get switched out for a better cash cow. You just can't help it and feel bitter about it.

So sorry, but expecting community not to be made into groups is nothing more than a pipe dream. As there will always be old and new player base.

Yes, I am being dead serious. Have you seen the reactions on other forums? For shits and giggles, I went back to MKO, first time since I've been banned, and holy cow. The amount of finger pointing at the casual fans that this is all their fault... I've also seen a fair amount of bull on Facebook posts and such. I'm sticking with what I have to say.

Also:

How about if I just delete the whole damn list, since it's apparently becoming more of a pain in the ass than it's worth (people accusing it of being a scam, despite the "fine print"...and I don't believe in writing illegible terms and conditions to begin with...I'd rather have my "fine print clearly legible for all to read)?

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Yes, please do. This list is a scam, you have users who clearly support this pack in your list. That's fraud, bud.
 
Yes, I am being dead serious. Have you seen the reactions on other forums? For shits and giggles, I went back to MKO, first time since I've been banned, and holy cow. The amount of finger pointing at the casual fans that this is all their fault... I've also seen a fair amount of bull on Facebook posts and such. I'm sticking with what I have to say.

Also:




Yes, please do.
Well, how are you going to address your threat to report me? You can't even articulate what rule putting your name on the list actually breaks. I could have easily counter-reported you for abusing the Report button, but I see no rule against abusing the Report button, so I'll take the high road there.

As for that Frost thing, I still hate her personally. I'm not even going to deny what transpired months ago, or make any bullshit excuses, other than simply say that I wear my opinions on my sleeve, and just leave it at that. That being said, but I believe I said in another thread earlier today that Mokap, Hsu Hao, Meat, and Zebron is a FAR better KP2 than the one we ultimately got in light of what we actually got (and was being dead serious about that too). Make what you will out of that one, but don't take this as kissing ass.

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Well, how are you going to address your threat to report me? You can't even articulate what rule putting your name on the list actually breaks. I could have easily counter-reported you for abusing the Report button, but I see no rule against abusing the Report button, so I'll take the high road there.

As for that Frost thing, I still hate her personally. I'm not even going to deny what transpired months ago, or make any bullshit excuses, other than simply say that I wear my opinions on my sleeve, and just leave it at that. That being said, but I believe I said in another thread earlier today that Mokap, Hsu Hao, Meat, and Zebron is a FAR better KP2 than the one we ultimately got in light of what we actually got (and was being dead serious about that too). Make what you will out of that one, but don't take this as kissing ass.

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You're being "problematic" which is clearly a reason to report you as various users have asked you to not put their name on your list. People are entitled to enter any thread they want to and say whatever they want to as long as they don't break the site's rules. Also, if you were allowed to trash someone's thread that asked you to only talk about said character if you like her only, why can't people do the same to yours while also asking you kindly to not put their names on your list, whether they don't want to be on your list or just seems like it annoys them or whatever reason they have.

Even though, it's not like your list is going to mean anything to anyone. Netherrealm isn't going to take back their four characters that they worked for months on just to please you angry sour pusses. But still, please do attempt to delete your list since it is fraud.
 
Yes, I am being dead serious. Have you seen the reactions on other forums? For shits and giggles, I went back to MKO, first time since I've been banned, and holy cow. The amount of finger pointing at the casual fans that this is all their fault... I've also seen a fair amount of bull on Facebook posts and such. I'm sticking with what I have to say.

Yes that is stupid I agree. There are tons of players who in blind rage, blame casuals like they were ones making dev decisions. That is stupid. But don't make it sound like it is one sided hate. Cause it is not and works like this. Netherrealm caters to casuals players and favors them over old ones. Old players feel betrayed and bitter about this and start speaking out. Casuals start calling old players "entitled and with superiority complex". Old players get pissed and blame casuals for ruining the game. And in the middle of it all, sits NRS who don't know jack of shit about Balance. They are the ones you need to blame. Not old players, nor casuals.

And I will be honest I have a lot of good reasons to hate casual players. But I don't. I still blame NRS even if Casuals were the ones who f%^ked me over for months, just because I liked Frost.
Do you know how many hate comments I got in my inbox and dislikes just because I liked a character they didn't? And these weren't some old hands (well were some of them too. I remember the shit I got on my Frost thread. Thanks for that btw (I am pointing that to other people not you Kitty.)) but mostly guys who didn't even know what Drakon King is.

@Tarkatan Trash How about if I just delete the whole damn list, since it's apparently becoming more of a pain in the ass than it's worth (people accusing it of being a scam, despite the "fine print"...and I don't believe in writing illegible terms and conditions to begin with...I'd rather have my "fine print clearly legible for all to read)?

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Whatever floats your boat, buddy. Cause as long as there are people who do not agree with the very cause, that list is not legit in any way as basically the list contradicts itself. Imagine if now everyone who is on the list would be voting. You get one half as YES and another as NO. Yet the group name claims everyone is YES.
 
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Honestly, with the amount of ideas given for 3 styles of characters on this and many other forums i don't understand why the second pack is so lame, we basically have 2 mugen like characters (Tri-borg and Alien with Baraka's blades), the least asked for character (from the ones already in the game) in Bo Rai'Cho and somebody else, don't even know his name and care.

I'am not sure so far i will buy any of these characters - need to see their gameplay first. Thought i want this Lin Kuei arena they used in trailer
 
Tbh, it's pretty disappointing that even now that the game has cooled off NRS is still prioritising it's casual fans. Like there's nothing wrong with catering to them but there needs to be a balance. Now, this is just my personal take so feel free to disagree but if the main roster is aiming to be recognisable to the casuals then the DLC should be the same for the non-casual fans, or vice versa.
 
And I will be honest I have a lot of good reasons to hate casual players. But I don't. I still blame NRS even if Casuals were the ones who f%^ked me over for months, just because I liked Frost.
Do you know how many hate comments I got in my inbox and dislikes just because I liked a character they didn't? And these weren't some old hands (well were some of them too. I remember the shit I got on my Frost thread. Thanks for that btw (I am pointing that to other people not you Kitty.)) but mostly guys who didn't even know what Drakon King is.

That's something both casuals and hardcore fans are guilty of. Everyone knows that there’s a limited number of spots on the roster. So naturally not every character is going to make it. As a result some people turn this into a competition and if their favorite(s) don’t make it they throw a hissy fit.

Because they only reason why “Insert Random Character Name” was left out is due to some characters who took a roster spot they “don’t deserve”. Guest characters are an easy target but in the end every character they don’t like is to blame for the exclusion of the ones they like.
 
That's something both casuals and hardcore fans are guilty of. Everyone knows that there’s a limited number of spots on the roster. So naturally not every character is going to make it. As a result some people turn this into a competition and if their favorite(s) don’t make it they throw a hissy fit.

Because they only reason why “Insert Random Character Name” was left out is due to some characters who took a roster spot they “don’t deserve”. Guest characters are an easy target but in the end every character they don’t like is to blame for the exclusion of the ones they like.
Only those who contribute the most to MK should be pandered to in MK.

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Tbh I don't care all that much because I don't go back to Mk that much anymore but yes, The KP doesn't have me very excited
 
Ladies and Gentlemen of the Mortal Kombat fanbase.

For months, us DEDICATED Mortal Kombat fans have lobbied through every medium, from fansites like this to social media such as Twitter, to get our favorite MK characters missing from the main roster and KP1 to be in KP2. Fujin, Sindel, Sareena, Li Mei, Frost, Havik, Rain, Noob Saibot, Jade, you name it. Some of these characters we liked more than others, but the message was clear; we wanted PURE Mortal Kombat Characters, specifically returning characters. And what did we get for our efforts?

ONE returning character, along with Leatherface, some Tarkatan/Alien hybrid, and this "Triborg" bullshit. This tells me one thing; that both NRS and WB are out of touch with the very people who are lining their pockets. Whining about this decision isn't good enough. We need to hit these people where it hurts the most; their wallets.

So therefore, I propose a pledge to boycott KP2. And nevermind the fact that the ONE returning MK character just happened to be one of my requests/predictions. We need to send a message to NRS and WB that they need to be answering to their REAL fans. So, by replying to this thread, you are signing a pledge NOT to buy KP2. As the author of this thread, I will represent the first signature.

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My god trash just shut the fuk always whining like a little b!tch. What you need to do is go back and suck on your mamas titties since you want to act like a baby. I really dgaf if this post gets me banned because this site has been nothing but thumb suckers crying about everything its just not the same anymore.
 
That's something both casuals and hardcore fans are guilty of. Everyone knows that there’s a limited number of spots on the roster. So naturally not every character is going to make it. As a result some people turn this into a competition and if their favorite(s) don’t make it they throw a hissy fit.

Because they only reason why “Insert Random Character Name” was left out is due to some characters who took a roster spot they “don’t deserve”. Guest characters are an easy target but in the end every character they don’t like is to blame for the exclusion of the ones they like.

Yes I know that. And I agree that when fans of certain character start blaming other fans (like it's their fault) it looks stupid and pathetic.

But there is also a problem when you wait for MK characters and suddenly get Leatherface... or Alien. Yeah I know a lot of people requested. But I also know that ton of people requested Fujin. And I am really sure that there were more Fujin requests than Alien or Leatherface.

And that angers people. And a lot of them start blaming casuals for that. That's wrong.

Here actually a good fresh example of incoming "casual hate" (it's kinda off topic, but serves as a good example)

http://www.cinemablend.com/games/St...d-Hardcore-Players-Developer-Says-103637.html

EA/DICE trying to cover it's laziness, start making excuses. This game was made for casuals! Not hardcore players. Not the guys who played Battlefront 2 or so on. Buuuulllshit.

And here is what is gonna happen. A lot of people will understand that it is just EA's cover excuse for their own incompetence, but right now there will be groups of people hating on more "casual" fans for this. And it makes no sense. But it will happen.

Just like how it is happening with MK. They make it look like they put casuals above older players, and older players start hating on casuals, while casuals start hating on old players in return. Yet in truth, NRS isn't putting no one above. They are using famous movie characters to market their game. Is it smart marketing? In certain case yes. But it is also serves as first signs of dying. Just like how small games start promoting half naked females for marketing and then after short boost of publicity die out. So will MKX. They are using foreign material over their own to promote the game. That alienates older players and at the same time brings a lot of casual players who after few weeks will forget the game as they get bored. Which results in shorter and shorter life span of game.

Because again. Roster of mkx isn't big. And having 4 slots being taken by some movie characters now will hurt them more than ever. Cause while there are guys who are happy about this, there is also a ton of people who are
A. Angry about this.
B. Simply lost interest in KP.
 
I was already disgusted with the MKX roster to begin with (the overload of special forces and their kids + the lack of returning characters who WEREN'T in MK9 aside from Shinnok). Tanya and Bo Rai Cho should have been in the roster from the start because they are terrible choices for DLC. Especially since the casual audience are unfamiliar with them (as with MOST 3D era characters). They lack much exposure compared to the classic characters. They should have given Kitana, Liu Kang, and Kung Lao the DLC spots since the revenants were just punching bags in the story anyways and i'm pretty sure the casuals would have bought them as well.

and making all these DLC guest characters does nothing to help MK at all because they're pretty much overshadowing the relevance of the other MK characters. Its a terrible move.

WB and NRS both need to feel the heat for this MK vs Hollywood Horror Movies BS!
 
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I think we everyone needs to just shut up about it. Whats done is done. Its still gonna happen, and its probably going to keep happening. The reason i will sign these petitions or do whatever is not to change whats already happened, but to hope that they may see all of this and change what they do in the future.

Casual fans dont care about the longevity of a game, and when i say casual i mean snobby bros that want to pick up a game for a hot second because its popular, like the call of duty dudes that play maybe once a month cause they ran out of beer and their college party got cancelled.

Mad respect for someone that buys a game because of something that interested them in the marketing and becomes a fan, one that will become a fan and want to know more. A casual fan to me is someone that is not interested in the game, its history, or any other aspect of the game and will put it up when the next big thing comes out.

That is who theyre listening to, and that is why people are pissed. Because we are stuck with it, now this shit is canon, now our history is influenced by people that dont care.

It doesnt matter though, like i said, whats done is done. We just need to remind them that we're here too, and us hardcore fans care a lot more.

Their legacy is more important than money, but in todays society that sentence is flip flopped
 
Tanya and Bo Rai Cho should have been in the roster from the start because they are terrible choices for DLC.

Say it again for the people in the back.

What was NRS thinking? Nobody even knows who Tanya is outside of the actual fans and hardcore fans of MK. Exact same with Bo Rai Cho. They're relying strictly on the $$$ Coming in from Alien, Predator, Leatherface, and Jason. If they really were 100% about the money, they could be making much more income with DLC of well known MK Chars unlike Bo' and Tanya.
 
Say it again for the people in the back.

What was NRS thinking? Nobody even knows who Tanya is outside of the actual fans and hardcore fans of MK. Exact same with Bo Rai Cho. They're relying strictly on the $$$ Coming in from Alien, Predator, Leatherface, and Jason. If they really were 100% about the money, they could be making much more income with DLC of well known MK Chars unlike Bo' and Tanya.

A member here, his name is Ames32. He bought MK9 strictly because it had Kratos in it. He later became a more dedicated fan of MK itself after playing the game. These characters may draw in more casuals, but a few of them will become legitimate fans because of it.
 
A member here, his name is Ames32. He bought MK9 strictly because it had Kratos in it. He later became a more dedicated fan of MK itself after playing the game. These characters may draw in more casuals, but a few of them will become legitimate fans because of it.
Thats the point im trying to make here, im all for someone taking a chance and coming to love a great game, the line between casual and fan is definately slim. True casuals i imagine sound something like "i bought it because of predator and played a couple days. Im done with the game now but it would be so dope if the added alien. So tight." Then back to tinder to netflix n chill.

Really proud of anyone that can break the mould and go to a freakin mk wiki page
 
A member here, his name is Ames32. He bought MK9 strictly because it had Kratos in it. He later became a more dedicated fan of MK itself after playing the game. These characters may draw in more casuals, but a few of them will become legitimate fans because of it.

I am not saying that won't happen. Even so like you said. Few will remain. Problem is that game doesn't use it's own material to show off. Most of the people will come to play as Xenos and so on. And they know that these guys won't come back in the next game. SO they play it until it is hot and then will forget the game.

But again there are of course people who get the game because of Leatherface and so on, but then start liking MK lore and it's characters. While it's cool, it becomes into a problem when a lot of these characters come from opposite themes. Horror and sci fi in this case. MK is a fantasy, gore fighting game. There is zero horror and sci fi just counts for Special Forces. People who come just for movie characters. Will most likely just stay for them, and after that will be done with the game. So they grab attention of wrong people.

For example (I will be repeating myself here) Take a look at Street Fighter. No guest characters from movies. Like at all. There are characters which are reference to real life people. Like Bruce Lee. But apart that they are still they own characters.

And look at Street Fighter longevity. Strong community, same game runs for YEARS or even DECADES (street fighter 2/3), friendly to both casuals and old veterans. Game uses it's own material to promote itself. And they are successful at that. It just shows that game has confidence in itself, unlike MK.

MKX KP2 feels like. Hey in case you don't like ninjas, demons and so on... we have ALIEEEEN. We have your beloved JASON. Or, or even better! The goddamn Predator! Come take a look!

It just cheapens the game.

Now I have seen people saying. Yeah but take a look at Soul Calibur or super smash bros. They have guest characters!
It's not the same.

First of all. Soul Calibur started early with Guest characters. I think they started with them since Soul Calibur 2. It pretty much normal for Soul Calibur fans, as game started doing that early.

Now for example super smash bros. That game was made for guests. It's like an all stars game. No one is whining about that, cause game practically says that itself.

But Mortal Kombat is different. You didn't have any guest characters until 9th installment. And now we suddenly have our precious roster slots being taken away by characters with ZERO connection to LORE.

"Aren't you used to that already?"
No. Of course not. Cause for the last 10 years there was no shit like this. It is easy to say "Get used to it". But not everyone can wrap their heads around that idea. Especially after spending half of their life seeing only ORIGINAL MK characters.

Yeah, of course change must be done. Games can't stay the same all the time. But there is a "good change" and a "bad change". And in my opinion MK sacrificing their original characters for some cheap boost in sales is a "bad change"
 
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