[SPOILER] Sub-Zero's identity in MKX confirmed!

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^This is a good point. As my second favourite character, I can't deny it's kind of a bummer that Noob probably won't be in. At this stage though, if he were included then his moves would be way too similar to those of Scorpion and Quan Chi, as you say. On the bright side though, I'm pretty psyched by the prospect of a wraith-like Sub Zero. Those otherwordly eyes have said wraith to me from the beginning.

Which brings us to another point. If Hanzo has 'conquered' Scorpion, I can only imagine that the threat Scorpion's return to supremacy will be a major plot point, either that or it has already happened by the end of the comics' arc.

So what was the true nature of Noob Saibot then? Perhaps like Scorpion, Noob Saibot is just an exaggeration of Bi Han's evil tendencies; his native cruelty having been amplified by Quan Chi's magic or as a side effect of being in the Netherrealm. So hopefully, we haven't seen the last of Noob Saibot either.
 
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Subz 711 said:
I still don't understand why some people think Bi-Han and Scorpion can "clear the air" anyway. Bi-Han did still murder Scorpion out of clan rivalry. Do people just forget that? Sure, he didn't kill his clan. Quan lied about that. Bi-Han still murdered him in cold blood and caused him to go to hell and be set on this whole vengeful quest though. Then, Scorpion got his revenge and TRUE TO RAIDEN's WORDS Bi-Han suffered a fate worse than death. He became Noob Saibot created by the very evil which Raiden spoke of.

That's what is so good about the brother's stories. You have two brothers. One served an evil clan who probably could care less about him and it tainted him. It made him have this evil grow in him and ultimately he succumbed to that evil. Now, that same evil is (or was) on the verge of ruling the Brotherhood of Shadow.

Then, the other brother is like the Yang to that Yin. He grew up in same circumstances, but the automation process made him realize that the clan didn't care about him. So, he abandoned them whether it would cost him his life or not. Later, he returns and takes over that same clan that would have seen him dead. He then turns the clan into a force for good.

They are ultimate opposites. Both leaders in their own right, but for totally different causes.
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Because all evil is done.

Hanzo was killed by Bi-Han for no reason at all. This "then I would be the dead one" is the greatest BS Sub-Zero could EVER said.

He condemned Hanzo to suffering forever. But Scorpion did took his revenge: he killed Sub-Zero.

That's the point, they already took vengence. Scorpion did avenged his death and Sub-Zero already suffered.

There is no reason for Sub-Zero to think about revenge, he started killing Hanzo.

How long will it take? Will Sub-Zero kill Hanzo for killing him and then Scorpion kill him again and again and again?

And more than that. They have someone that tangled them into a lie. Into a bigger lie than their lives.

Their differences are already aside. And besides, I think they need to understand the consequences of killing.

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about the "that's what is so good about the brother's stories...", I totally agree. Very nice analysis!
 
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Nethervestige said:
^This is a good point. As my second favourite character, I can't deny it's kind of a bummer that Noob probably won't be in. At this stage though, if he were included then his moves would be way too similar to those of Scorpion and Quan Chi, as you say. On the bright side though, I'm pretty psyched by the prospect of a wraith-like Sub Zero. Those otherwordly eyes have said wraith to me from the beginning.

Which brings us to another point. If Hanzo has 'conquered' Scorpion, I can only imagine that the threat Scorpion's return to supremacy will be a major plot point, either that or it has already happened by the end of the comics' arc.

So what was the true nature of Noob Saibot then? Perhaps like Scorpion, Noob Saibot is just an exaggeration of Bi Han's evil tendencies; his native cruelty having been amplified by Quan Chi's magic or as a side effect of being in the Netherrealm. So hopefully, we haven't seen the last of Noob Saibot either.
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I disagree. They could easily make Noob unique like they can with Frost. Only a lack of imagination or lack of desire would stop them.
 
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We already have Sub-Zero as the ice character, we don't need Frost. Noob makes much more sense since there's no other shadow manipulator in the game, and let's be honest you can do lots of things with an element like shadow.
 
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I think there are multiple Sub-zeros in the game. This would explain the variations, they potentially represent the two or 3 people that go by the name sub-zero throughout the duration of story mode.

The referenced "Netherrealm war" in the comics makes me wonder. Seeing as how both of the first 2 sub-zeros were under Quanchi's control in MK9 it would make sense that either one, or both could be represented by different variations.

I also believe that there is a completely "New" Sub-zero that will be introduced after one or both of the originals are killed off.
 
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sub-one said:
I think there are multiple Sub-zeros in the game. This would explain the variations, they potentially represent the two or 3 people that go by the name sub-zero throughout the duration of story mode.
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That all happen to have the exact same look and all happen to be voiced by Steve Blum?

I find this "each variation could be a different Sub-Zero!" theory so bizarre. How are you going to tell them apart if you can choose your variation in storymode, and they're all clones of one another anyway? If there's multiple Sub-Zeros, they'll be their own unique alts, not variations repurposed for something they're not supposed to be.
 
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Harpoon said:
That all happen to have the exact same look and all happen to be voiced by Steve Blum?

I find this "each variation could be a different Sub-Zero!" theory so bizarre. How are you going to tell them apart if you can choose your variation in storymode, and they're all clones of one another anyway? If there's multiple Sub-Zeros, they'll be their own unique alts, not variations repurposed for something they're not supposed to be.
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You're thinking too one dimensional. Just like the sub-zero in MK9. they shared the same fighting style, yet they had different characterizations when you chose a different costume. who says the "voicecast" we've seen isn't incomplete? I'm sure there will be multiple costume variations with specific differences based upon said variation. the sub-zero we've seen so far is the primary designs, but by no means the only design. like i said "I believe that each variation represents Sub-zero at either different times in story mode or different sub-zeros. my theory stands and makes the most sense to me.
 
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Revamp_Kombat said:
Perhaps its not Bi-Han or Kuai Liang. It's probably one of the Lin Kuei soldiers that was a friend of one of the brothers and took their place in honor. In hopes of revealing the truth to Scorpion of the deaths of his family and clan. Plus gaining the brothers' innocence.

Just a theory.
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Nice theory but in one of the dialogues Quan Chi said to Sub-Zero:
"I have your brother's soul!"
Which for me means it's Kuai or Bi-Han, but more chance of Bi-Han because Quan Chi had Kuai's soul in the last game. He was like a zombie without free will.
 
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I have a theory based on what we've seen in the comic.
What if the Sub-Zero which was scarred by Kano was Kuai Liang and after he got the "cursed scar" Quan Chi got his soul and that's why Quan Chi said to Sub-Zero (possibly Bi-Han) "I have your brother's soul!" in the game?
Also the one we have seen in Scorpion's memories was Quan Chi disguised as Bi-Han, right? Nothing to say here, except that the costume was totally different from the scarred one.
And now the third one. He looks pretty much like the one in the game. But we have no clue who he is.. He was just fighting some cyborgs. And also many years have passed after the one in Issue 1 was scarred so we don't know if he is the same one. And the one which is fighting cyborg doesn't look like the scarred one (possibly Kuai Liang) or Bi-Han (disguised Quan Chi).
And one more last thing. Scorpion said: "You are not Sub-Zero!" to Kuai Liang in MK9. But in one of the new dialogues he said: "Sub-Zero...". So this could mean this Sub-Zero in the game is Bi-Han. But in some other dialogue in MKX Scorpion said: "How does it feel to be a dead man?". So if the Sub-Zero in the game is Bi-Han this dialogue woudn't make any sense. Why didn't he say that to Bi-Han when he was Noob? It would make sense if this was Kuai Liang.
What do you guys think?
 
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Nobody has actually heard this "I have your brother's soul" line spoken and I am thoroughly convinced that what was actually heard was the dialogue where Quan Chi says " Your brother succumbed easily" or "Your brother was nothing to me" in which Sub-Zero replies "I am not my brother"

Im still sticking with Kuai. Just makes more sense. Kitana and Kung Lao are back. Yeah Kuai was cyber, but he was also dead AF.
 
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Subz 711 said:
Nobody has actually heard this "I have your brother's soul" line spoken and I am thoroughly convinced that what was actually heard was the dialogue where Quan Chi says " Your brother succumbed easily" or "Your brother was nothing to me" in which Sub-Zero replies "I am not my brother"

Im still sticking with Kuai. Just makes more sense. Kitana and Kung Lao are back. Yeah Kuai was cyber, but he was also dead AF.
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I would be happier if it's Kuai Liang rather than Bi-Han.
He is the real Sub-Zero for me. I was just saying what we have seen in the comic and pointing out what could it mean.
 
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If this turns out to be a brand new Sub-Zero, then the pre-fight dialogue with Quan Chi will be the biggest scam since Miss Cleo.

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Both Sub-Zeros will be playable sharing one slot like in MK9 since the story is spanning 25 years. Mark my words.
 
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In the dialogue with Ermac, Sub-Zero said that is not CORRUPTED, but FRED. I think it's very safe to assume he's Bi-Han, considering Noob Saibot was always known to be a corrupted entity.
 
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Stubbornness will be taken to a new level if people argue for Kuai Liang as this incarnation of Sub-Zero after what we learned from the most recent live stream.

That. Is. All.
 
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Marcelino Rodrigues said:
In the dialogue with Ermac, Sub-Zero said that is not CORRUPTED, but FREED. I think it's very safe to assume he's Bi-Han, considering Noob Saibot was always known to be a corrupted entity.
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Taj Gill said:
Stubbornness will be taken to a new level if people argue for Kuai Liang as this incarnation of Sub-Zero after what we learned from the most recent live stream.

That. Is. All.
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Agreed, but people will continue to be stubborn about it, regardless.
 
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The only way Kuai is coming back as playable now is if he was the same Subzero who fought Kano and we get to play that fight in a flashback. However, I'm still not convinced that he was Kuai Lang cause the scar due to Raiden not having a scar after doing the exact same thing to himself.
 
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Lets be honest here, its probably both.

The one we've been seing is Bi-Han, and Kuai will be the other costume.
 
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