SPOILER ALERT:Mortal Kombat X DIGITAL COMIC DISCUSSION

[Yellow Ledbetter]

Fellas... fellas... fellas. Let's keep things in perspective. There really hasn't been that much Scorpion. Cinematic trailer? That's always going to be Scorp and Subz, there's not even a point to arguing about it. They are Mortal Kombat. Scorpion winning just means Sub-Zero got the cooler moves in during the fight. If Sub-Zero won, Scorpion would have gotten the better moves. No point complaining there either.

As far as the game goes, Scorpion was one of the least important characters in MK9 and had almost zero screentime outside of his chapter.

As far as the comic goes, Scorpion has had less screentime than Kotal and Cassie, and comparable to Goro. He wasn't even the protagonist of the two chapters he was in, he was a supporting character to Kenshi and then to Takeda. And now he's going to have a chapter that'll give us more of Raiden and more of Takeda in the process. For all we know, the flashback is two pages long. Is that really worth throwing a fit around? He's one of the main characters, MK9 was bad to him, let him have a few pages in the comic.

The only thing that could be taken as a bit of overboard favoritism is the collector's statue/Scorpion's costume, but I don't even know if that was NRS's decision to make. The statue makers might have come in saying "this is the character we're super passionate about doing a statue for that we've been fans of since we were kids," and if I'm NRS I don't know if I turn them away and say "Well no you've gotta do Kotal Kahn who you've never seen before, instead."

For context, I dig Scorpion but I'm no fanboy, I'm way more curious about Sub-Zero right now. This just isn't that big a deal.

Perfect.

MK9 Scorpion not only had little screen time, but within the lore, he was screwed (Quan Chi's housemaid).

It seemed like they didn't even want to show us Scorpion at all.

People are right of complaining about the Kollectors Editions, but then of a suddenly covers and cinematics were extended into 20 years, and people said "I'm tired of Boon choking us with Scorpion for 20 years" and other arguable things.

If you know nothing of MK and hear people saying it, you will imagine that since MK1 the covers, videos, promos are about Scorpion and no other character had space.

People even complain that Scorpion wins on the last games cinematics. Hate Scorpion is now cool (for those who didn't hate at all).

 

[Misucra]

You bought the games, they pushed Scorpion as usual. That's why I say "you paid for it".

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Yeah... I bought the game for Mortal Kombat and Sub zero. Just because I bought the game doesn't mean I support their push for Scorpion. I already saw some favoritism elements in MK9 for Scorpion (yes he wasn't long in story mode, but in marketing, certain illustrations and main menu hinted on that ), but didn't pay much attention as Scorpion isn't on my bad side of characters. Even so this one... now that's ridiculous.

Even so again this is just my opinion on this matter. MKX didn't lose it's brilliance, because of that, but this marketing direction is starting to get annoying.

I would really prefer to learn more about new characters, than read THE SAME damn thing about Scorpion's past. I bet that SEKRET origin, won't be much of the sekret to begin with.

 

[Tarkatan Trash]

Yeah... I bought the game for Mortal Kombat and Sub zero. Just because I bought the game doesn't mean I support their push for Scorpion. I already saw some favoritism elements in MK9 for Scorpion (yes he wasn't long in story mode, but in marketing, certain illustrations and main menu hinted on that ), but didn't pay much attention as Scorpion isn't on my bad side of characters. Even so this one... now that's ridiculous.

Even so again this is just my opinion on this matter. MKX didn't lose it's brilliance, because of that, but this marketing direction is starting to get annoying.

I would really prefer to learn more about new characters, than read THE SAME damn thing about Scorpion's past. I bet that SEKRET origin, won't be much of the sekret to begin with.

They used your money to push Scorpion though...

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[theincubuslord]

They used your money to push Scorpion though...

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They used your money to make Mileena slutty.

 

[Misucra]

Perfect.

MK9 Scorpion not only had little screen time, but within the lore, he was screwed (Quan Chi's housemaid).

It seemed like they didn't even want to show us Scorpion at all.

People are right of complaining about the Kollectors Editions, but then of a suddenly covers and cinematics were extended into 20 years, and people said "I'm tired of Boon choking us with Scorpion for 20 years" and other arguable things.

If you know nothing of MK and hear people saying it, you will imagine that since MK1 the covers, videos, promos are about Scorpion and no other character had space.

People even complain that Scorpion wins on the last games cinematics. Hate Scorpion is now cool (for those who didn't hate at all).

MK9

Cinematic trailer (shared with Mileena, Raiden, Shao Kahn). Scorpion kills Sub Zero
Cinematic trailer with Kratos. Scorpion beats Sub Zero(almost kills him) and then fights Kratos
Main menu screen: Scorpion breaks Subzero's jaw
Story mode: Scorpion kills Sub zero. (serves Quan Chi)
MK figures: Scorpion impales sub zero

MKX

MKX announcement trailer: Scorpion kills Sub zero
MKX kollector's edition:
Highly detailed scorpion statue
Another Scorpion's statue made in different style
Unique in game costume for Scorpion
Whole documentary video about making of Scorpion's statue
Scorpion's action figure
Box art with Scorpion alone.

Let me fix what you said.

If you know nothing of MK and watch MK commercials, you will imagine that since MK1 the covers, videos, promos are about Scorpion and no other character had space.

That's exactly what is happening actually. I had to explain to my friends (who recently got interested in MKX) that Scorpion isn't the MAIN MAIN PROTAGANIST of the game, because they exactly got that impression from watching MKX trailers and promos.

 

[Yellow Ledbetter]

MK9

Cinematic trailer (shared with Mileena, Raiden, Shao Kahn). Scorpion kills Sub Zero
Cinematic trailer with Kratos. Scorpion beats Sub Zero(almost kills him) and then fights Kratos
Main menu screen: Scorpion breaks Subzero's jaw
Story mode: Scorpion kills Sub zero. (serves Quan Chi)
MK figures: Scorpion impales sub zero

MKX

MKX announcement trailer: Scorpion kills Sub zero
MKX kollector's edition:
Highly detailed scorpion statue
Another Scorpion's statue made in different style
Unique in game costume for Scorpion
Whole documentary video about making of Scorpion's statue
Scorpion's action figure

Let me fix what you said.



That's exactly what is happening actually. I had to explain to my friends (who recently got interested in MKX) that Scorpion isn't the MAIN MAIN PROTAGANIST of the game, because they exactly got that impression from watching MKX trailers and promos.

People said that Boon is forcing Scorpion down our throats for 20 years. That's what people have been saying. Is that true? No. if you make exactly what you did now since MK1, you will see the diversity.

I agree that the Kollector's Edition is awful, it's even offensive to the variety of tastes we have (I mean, it's not enough one statue, but they put two and all others things related to Scorpion).

But, cinematics? Menu? Really? Are people caring about Scorpion killing Sub-Zero in a non-canon and destined only for marketing effects?

Makes no sense. and about MK9, Scorpion was awful, became Quan Chi housemaid. Respectfully, but I can't believe you added the fact Scorpion killed Sub-Zero. We needed Noob Saibot. He needed to do that, and as he did, he only screwed himself.

 

[theincubuslord]

and about MK9, Scorpion was awful, became Quan Chi housemaid.

Yeah, Scorpion does not deserve to get all the attention. He's the main mascot of the MK series and has been since MKDA, but usually that goes to the main character and main protagonist of the franchise, such as Sonic, Mario, Lara Croft, Ryu, Hayabusa etc. But no, not Mortal Kombat... instead we get someone else on the main cover? And why is that, you might ask? Because he is a favourite, both for the majority of the fans, the developers and even the leader of the studio making the franchise.

And this favourization of this somewhat dull character is what many other fans are tired of, because he is shown at every opportunity. For the other franchises, it makes sense that we see the MAIN character on the cover, in the menu and in all other media, because it is the freaking MAIN CHARACTER!

Scorpion, however, is not. Yet every time Mortal Kombat is mentioned, we have to stare at his ugly face. It would be the same if we suddenly saw Toad being the front man of the Super Mario franchise, or Knuckles in the Sonic franchise etc...

 

[Yellow Ledbetter]

Yeah, Scorpion does not deserve to get all the attention. He's the main mascot of the MK series and has been since MKDA, but usually that goes to the main character and main protagonist of the franchise, such as Sonic, Mario, Lara Croft, Ryu, Hayabusa etc. But no, not Mortal Kombat... instead we get someone else on the main cover? And why is that, you might ask? Because he is a favourite, both for the majority of the fans, the developers and even the leader of the studio making the franchise.

And this favourization of this somewhat dull character is what many other fans are tired of, because he is shown at every opportunity. For the other franchises, it makes sense that we see the MAIN character on the cover, in the menu and in all other media, because it is the freaking MAIN CHARACTER!

Scorpion, however, is not. Yet every time Mortal Kombat is mentioned, we have to stare at his ugly face. It would be the same if we suddenly saw Toad being the front man of the Super Mario franchise, or Knuckles in the Sonic franchise etc...

I didn't want him on the cover too. As you have said (if I'm not mistaken, it was you!), the Dragon logo should be the cover of MKX.

Even the new characters should be on the cover.

I believe Scorpion has become the mascot on this game, he is the ONLY character, that's something I dislike too.

But MKA? It had many other characters too. And Deception specially. Not to mention MK:A.

And about being a dull character...well, that's subjective, don't you think?

[...]

I agree with all complaints about KEdition, more characters as mascots, you know.

But one thing is completely out of reality, and was repeated many, many times here: Boon putting Scorpion down our throats for 20 years. People are counting cinematics and menus.

Sub-Zero is light years coller (no pun intended) than Scorpion on MK9. He has two chapters, he has nice fights, he was important. Scorpion was just a toy. But what people care? Oh, Sub-Zero was killed by Scorpion and Kratos. Sub-Zero lost the cinematic non-canon trailer.

This is marketing. Means nothing for the legacy of MK.

Sometimes I think people get angry because they like Sub-Zero and he is killed. So it all starts with your favorite character dying on screen and it gets bigger than the world, and then of a suddenly *BANG Yellow Dictatorship of two decades.

 

[Misucra]

People said that Boon is forcing Scorpion down our throats for 20 years. That's what people have been saying. Is that true? No. if you make exactly what you did now since MK1, you will see the diversity.

I agree that the Kollector's Edition is awful, it's even offensive to the variety of tastes we have (I mean, it's not enough one statue, but they put two and all others things related to Scorpion).

But, cinematics? Menu? Really? Are people caring about Scorpion killing Sub-Zero in a non-canon and destined only for marketing effects?

Makes no sense. and about MK9, Scorpion was awful, became Quan Chi housemaid. Respectfully, but I can't believe you added the fact Scorpion killed Sub-Zero. We needed Noob Saibot. He needed to do that, and as he did, he only screwed himself.

It's not that I freak out about Scorpion killing Sub Zero all the time (even so it is starting to get annoying. I even made a joke video about that https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgE78uTMUMI),but it starts to bother some people then Scorpion is being put everywhere on a spotlight.
Hell Raiden technically was the main character of MK9. Yet SCORPION VS SUB ZERO. MKX. New Characters. SCORPION.

Again I like him a lot, but then he is showed almost f%^%&king everywhere it starts to get annoying. And yes cinematics and even main menu screens mean a lot. Especially if you see them often.

I was at first silent even after that poor Kollector's edition surprise. Just got my own stuff. But come on... now even more space taken BY SCORPION? He had FULL VOLUME of his. That's it! Awesome he is a badass. MOVE ON. Nope. Here is more about Scorpion's SEKRET ORIGIN...

 

[Misucra]

I didn't want him on the cover too. As you have said (if I'm not mistaken, it was you!), the Dragon logo should be the cover of MKX.

Even the new characters should be on the cover.

I believe Scorpion has become the mascot on this game, he is the ONLY character, that's something I dislike too.

But MKA? It had many other characters too. And Deception specially. Not to mention MK:A.

And about being a dull character...well, that's subjective, don't you think?

[...]

I agree with all complaints about KEdition, more characters as mascots, you know.

But one thing is completely out of reality, and was repeated many, many times here: Boon putting Scorpion down our throats for 20 years. People are counting cinematics and menus.

Sub-Zero is light years coller (no pun intended) than Scorpion on MK9. He has two chapters, he has nice fights, he was important. Scorpion was just a toy. But what people care? Oh, Sub-Zero was killed by Scorpion and Kratos. Sub-Zero lost the cinematic non-canon trailer.

This is marketing. Means nothing for the legacy of MK.

Sometimes I think people get angry because they like Sub-Zero and he is killed. So it all starts with your favorite character dying on screen and it gets bigger than the world, and then of a suddenly *BANG Yellow Dictatorship of two decades.

I don't know anything about Scorpion being pushed for 20 years. I noticed that push only after MK9. So no idea if you're talking about me.
AGAIN I took it as pretty boring marketing of showing THE SAME DAMN THING. Yes cool Scorpion owns Sub zero. Ok done. Next character? Oh wait more of the same ownage? Ooook... could I see something more? Oh now physical representation of how scorpion is badass while killing Sub zero... ok ahmm... sooo... is this game is all about just Scorpion being badass and killing Sub zero?

That Sub Zero died, means pretty much nothing to me as it isn't Game of Thrones or The Walking Dead where characters die and don't come back... oh wait scratch that. Only Game of thrones as The walking dead can bring characters back it seems.

Anyway Sub zero dying ain't the issue. The problem is then they shove that same crap OVER AND OVER AND OVER again.

 

[Yellow Ledbetter]

It's not that I freak out about Scorpion killing Sub Zero all the time (even so it is starting to get annoying. I even made a joke video about that https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgE78uTMUMI),but it starts to bother some people then Scorpion is being put everywhere on a spotlight.
Hell Raiden technically was the main character of MK9. Yet SCORPION VS SUB ZERO. MKX. New Characters. SCORPION.

Again I like him a lot, but then he is showed almost f%^%&king everywhere it starts to get annoying. And yes cinematics and even main menu screens mean a lot. Especially if you see them often.

I was at first silent even after that poor Kollector's edition surprise. Just got my own stuff. But come on... now even more space taken BY SCORPION? He had FULL VOLUME of his. That's it! Awesome he is a badass. MOVE ON. Nope. Here is more about Scorpion's SEKRET ORIGIN...

First of all: I lold so much with this video :laugh:, the reactions were priceless!

Second: didn't start talking about this because of your comment to TT ok?

Well, I admit it's annoying to see you favorite character die everytime. But I think people are argumenting out of control, you know, an extreme exaggeration, MK is very diverse, if they want to start killing Scorpion on trailers, for real, I won't mind, I have lots of other favorite characters (Scorpion bandwagon rage is so big that people sometimes think Scorpion fans just like Scorpion :laugh: ).

As I said, I dislike KE. But this Sekret Origin, seriously, being very honest, I think it's necessary.

We can be dealing with his killer on this game. Bi-Han need to be "introduced". So, instead of telling Mythologies like the game, we will see the other side, and now Sub-Zero will be the "you will fail" guy.

It's interesting. I don't think they will be showing it just to show. We already know what happens, so if they are going to show it again, I bet it's because of 1. Shirai Ryu 2. Sub-Zero/Bi-Han 3. Quan Chi.

Scorpion is not my wife or something to be defending, and it's annoying to have him like a propaganda, even a fan of him gets tired if you explore it the wrong way, but it's more annoying when people go beyond the barriers of reason and argument, and start saying things in the past that didn't happen.

 

[Misucra]

First of all: I lold so much with this video :laugh:, the reactions were priceless!

Second: didn't start talking about this because of your comment to TT ok?

Well, I admit it's annoying to see you favorite character die everytime. But I think people are argumenting out of control, you know, an extreme exaggeration, MK is very diverse, if they want to start killing Scorpion on trailers, for real, I won't mind, I have lots of other favorite characters (Scorpion bandwagon rage is so big that people sometimes think Scorpion fans just like Scorpion :laugh: ).

As I said, I dislike KE. But this Sekret Origin, seriously, being very honest, I think it's necessary.

We can be dealing with his killer on this game. Bi-Han need to be "introduced". So, instead of telling Mythologies like the game, we will see the other side, and now Sub-Zero will be the "you will fail" guy.

It's interesting. I don't think they will be showing it just to show. We already know what happens, so if they are going to show it again, I bet it's because of 1. Shirai Ryu 2. Sub-Zero/Bi-Han 3. Quan Chi.

Scorpion is not my wife or something to be defending, and it's annoying to have him like a propaganda, even a fan of him gets tired if you explore it the wrong way, but it's more annoying when people go beyond the barriers of reason and argument, and start saying things in the past that didn't happen.

First of all: Thanks for the compliment. I appreciate that.

Second: I understand what you mean. Even so it still doesn't change the fact that lately Scorpion's marketing is getting out of hand. And again I like Scorpion a lot, but is just too much. I would like to see more marketing on different kharacters, not just one.

Well let's hope that SEKRET ORIGIN won't be waste of space. If it is... oh boy... so much Rage.

 

[p.W]

MK9

Cinematic trailer (shared with Mileena, Raiden, Shao Kahn). Scorpion kills Sub Zero
Cinematic trailer with Kratos. Scorpion beats Sub Zero(almost kills him) and then fights Kratos
Main menu screen: Scorpion breaks Subzero's jaw
Story mode: Scorpion kills Sub zero. (serves Quan Chi)
MK figures: Scorpion impales sub zero

MKX

MKX announcement trailer: Scorpion kills Sub zero
MKX kollector's edition:
Highly detailed scorpion statue
Another Scorpion's statue made in different style
Unique in game costume for Scorpion
Whole documentary video about making of Scorpion's statue
Scorpion's action figure
Box art with Scorpion alone.

Yeah let's complete that picture. Scorpion has one playable chapter in MK9, while Sub-Zero has two AND appears as the primary antagonist of Scorpion's. Outside of his chapter, what does Scorpion do? Lose to Liu Kang, lose to Sub Zero, lose to Raiden (after being called a lapdog). You're not biased at all. MK9 was atrocious to Scorpion. If he wasn't all over the marketing, NRS would have a lot of trouble maintaining the image of him as one half (+) of their mascot.

As for MKX, half of your points all relate to the same freaking thing. Of course the costume is for Scorpion, its a costume of the statue! Of course the making of documentary features Scorpion, its about the damn statue! You want them to make a making of documentary for Kano's non-existent statue instead? As for the action figure, Subz, Scorp, and Raiden all have one.

If Scorpion is being overrepresented given his role as a posterboy of the series - I'm still not convinced that he is - then it isn't by much.

 

[Lizardman]

I originally used to really dislike how much of a posterboy Scorpion is but then my mind was actually changed by some of the scorpion supporters here in this thread. Here's why:

-Like someone said, Scorpion was barely prevalent or significant in MK9's story, the comics so far, and even the original timeline. They fairly focus on more of an actual story and not just on Scorpion avenging his cliche story arc and thats fine.

-So why Scorpion the marketing tool? Well a better question is "who would be the marketing tool?" I mean Scorpion is a safe bet. He's a safe cool character to appeal to the action genre people and casuals. He also looks cool and easy to recognize so it's the safest bet. I mean who else would be the marketing tool? Kano? Johnny Cage? I can see Liu Kang but in terms of MKX but he's out of the picture story-wise (as far as we know) and not as iconic and easy to spot as Scorpion is.

I'm fine with him being the marketing posterboy (its understandable) as long as that stays out of the actual story which should be left to various characters (like how it always has been).

P.S. Sub-Zero > Scorpion

 

[Marcelino Rodrigues]

It's not so much that Scorpion is a bad character, it's more like Boon liking him and favouring him because Scorpion is his and NRS favourite character, which ultimately creates a very biased hype around him. That's what really bothers me...

Now, I actually am indifferent to Scorpion. The only time I ever used him as a fav was in Mortal Kombat 1. Actually, the comics did a TREMENDOUS job at developing Scorpion, I absolutely adored his human form and I hope it's an alt of his in X. What hurts Scorpion is not his story, his special moves or his gameplay, but rather how he is treated by his creators.

Just my opinion.

 

[Marcelino Rodrigues]

Yeah let's complete that picture. Scorpion has one playable chapter in MK9, while Sub-Zero has two AND appears as the primary antagonist of Scorpion's. Outside of his chapter, what does Scorpion do? Lose to Liu Kang, lose to Sub Zero, lose to Raiden (after being called a lapdog). You're not biased at all. MK9 was atrocious to Scorpion. If he wasn't all over the marketing, NRS would have a lot of trouble maintaining the image of him as one half (+) of their mascot.

As for MKX, half of your points all relate to the same freaking thing. Of course the costume is for Scorpion, its a costume of the statue! Of course the making of documentary features Scorpion, its about the damn statue! You want them to make a making of documentary for Kano's non-existent statue instead? As for the action figure, Subz, Scorp, and Raiden all have one.

If Scorpion is being overrepresented given his role as a posterboy of the series - I'm still not convinced that he is - then it isn't by much.

But that's really what all this is about. Mortal Kombat is NOT about Scorpion. Scorpion IS NOT the main character, hero, or even anything remotely close to that. Scorpion just happens to be the "posterboy" because NRS promotes him that way and he is Boon's favourite and they want YOU (= fans) to think like that. People are mostly sheep and the honestly think he even looks like a ninja (LOL), they usually swallow that crap. True Scorpion fans like him for who he is and plays like and not because some dude with thick eyebrows says so. Period.

 

[Misucra]

Outside of his chapter, what does Scorpion do? Lose to Liu Kang, lose to Sub Zero, lose to Raiden (after being called a lapdog).

What? You played a different game maybe. Cause last time I checked Scorpion lost only to Raiden in MK9. Unless you're talking about previous games (which I don't mention as I am talking only about MK9 and MKX right now).

Also I am talking about marketing overall, not what happened in story. But ok. Let's mention what happened in story mode. First Sub Zero gets killed by Scorpion, Second sub zero captured and made into a shitty cyber ninja (yeah didn't like him being cyber), then he gets owned by Sindel.

Raiden called him lapdog... lol. Such life changing insult. It sounds really bad from a guy, who (at that moment) was at losing side and came looking for HELP. Really. Scorpion's image was tainted by that forever. Let's just forget that Raiden came asking desperately for alliance.
Actually Scorpion's one single chapter did pretty good justice to him. That was one of more serious chapters where I didn't laugh from females trying to act all important in that clothing.

Just showed how shitty Scorpion's situation was. Undead, a puppet of Quan Chi yet a vengeful spirit seeking for vengeance. It actually made me care for Scorpion (even so I didn't understood his choice with sub zero over his family). So you're giving a pretty bad example here for me.
Cause one chapter for Scorpion did better than 2 chapter's of Sub Zero where he got owned every time, you didn't play for him.

 

[Dwallz]

I don't hate Scorpion, but the dude need to shit his ass down sometimes!

He use to be one of my favorites

 

[Lizardman]

I wonder what Fujin is going to do when Scorpion gets to Raiden and him. He might agree with Scorpion because of how reckless Raiden has been with the Kamidogu.

 

[Yellow Ledbetter]

I think Fujin is a good partner to Raiden, but I think it won't need much until he flaps his hand on the hat and says "I AM TIRED OF YOUR S#!T!".

Well, I don't know, but [MENTION=16796]ujustgotcaged[/MENTION] posted a loooooooong time ago something from MKO about Fujin, it's a possible spoiler, but I can't remember nobody giving the actual relevance and it said that

Spoiler:

FUJIN WAS DEAD

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And for that reason, who knows if Fujin won't be the "corrupted" god this time...