SPOILER ALERT:Mortal Kombat X DIGITAL COMIC DISCUSSION

BBBLP said:
Havik isn't helping Reiko for no reason I'd imagine. He must have some ulterior motive. Could just be that he's trying to create chaos through Reiko, but I think it might be bigger than that. That he's using him for something.

If Reiko becomes the Blood God, I don't think it's going to turn out exactly as he would like.
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Havik is a Cleric of Chaos. Chaos is what he does! That is his goal in life, to create chaos where ever he goes. He appears to want to help Reiko, but what he really wants is to create chaos! There is no other ulterior motive, that IS his ulterior motive!

Of course Havik is playing Reiko, but that doesn't mean Reiko won't get what he wants, as long it results in chaos.
 
lol it's gonna be so disappointing if nothing to do with Reiko or Havik makes it into the games; they both get randomly killed off in the comics, and the final boss is just an undead demi-god version of Liu Kang with one variation -- fireball throwing bicycle kicking turkey mode.
 
mandead said:
lol it's gonna be so disappointing if nothing to do with Reiko or Havik makes it into the games; they both get randomly killed off in the comics, and the final boss is just an undead demi-god version of Liu Kang with one variation -- fireball throwing bicycle kicking turkey mode.
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Completely 100% agree with this.
 
mandead said:
lol it's gonna be so disappointing if nothing to do with Reiko or Havik makes it into the games; they both get randomly killed off in the comics, and the final boss is just an undead demi-god version of Liu Kang with one variation -- fireball throwing bicycle kicking turkey mode.
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theincubuslord said:
Havik is a Cleric of Chaos. Chaos is what he does! That is his goal in life, to create chaos where ever he goes. He appears to want to help Reiko, but what he really wants is to create chaos! There is no other ulterior motive, that IS his ulterior motive!

Of course Havik is playing Reiko, but that doesn't mean Reiko won't get what he wants, as long it results in chaos.
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Obviously Havik likes chaos, the question is how layered are his plans for achieving it? Havik doesn't just walk around stealing candy from little children, the guy is obviously capable of thinking very far ahead and pulling off complex plans as we can see from his manipulation of Reiko over a long period of time (weeks? months?).

And the question of the nature of "chaos" and the Chaosrealm still exists. So far, Havik has acted almost entirely as a Chaotic Evil character across all timelines. Are all Chaosrealmers Chaotic Evil? Or are they Chaotic Neutral? And is Havik like all the rest of his kind, or does he go against the grain (e.g. most Chaosrealmers are Chaotic Neutral, but he happens to be Chaotic Evil)? Or does he have the capacity to do good, just as right now he is doing evil?

There's a lot about him that we don't know. I hope that he's not just a watered down Joker, because a good Joker is incredibly hard to pull off and I don't think NS ever will. And if he is just that, and his entire realm is just that, that means there would never be a point to having a second Chaosrealm character in any of the games. It's kind of a dead end approach.
 
I'd say Havik is Chaotic Neutral. In MKD's Konquest mode, he trains Shujinko, then attacks him, then THANKS him for getting beaten by him! As long there is chaos, he's happy. And I think his involvement in the comics is to drive alot of conflict forward, because the more conflict there is, the more chaos there is.

Kotal will most likely try and bring peace and order to Outworld, and Havik doesn't want that to happen, hence why he is helping out Reiko and possibly effing him up in the process. We've seen what the Blood Demon/God/Thingy does to people, and Kotal is using Blood Magik, so if Havik can turn Reiko into the Blood Demon/God/Thingy, then he will be able to completely eff up Kotal. Not to mention those cursed by the Kamidogu Daggers.
 
p.W said:
Obviously Havik likes chaos, the question is how layered are his plans for achieving it? Havik doesn't just walk around stealing candy from little children, the guy is obviously capable of thinking very far ahead and pulling off complex plans as we can see from his manipulation of Reiko over a long period of time (weeks? months?).
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Try years. Havik is pulling a long, long con. If the dagger was able to curse Sub-Zero back in chapter 1, then Havik must have corrupted the magic before then and that's 10+ years before what's currently going on in the comics.

Unfortunately, this brings up some plot holes/inconsistencies. If Sub is under Havik's control, why hasn't he used him for any purpose in ten years? It seems Sub has just been running around the earth with the dagger in his possession since and has shown nothing for it. And why is Raiden just now going to hunt down Sub-Zero? Was he waiting for Scorpion to decide to come seek him?
 
mandead said:
lol it's gonna be so disappointing if nothing to do with Reiko or Havik makes it into the games; they both get randomly killed off in the comics, and the final boss is just an undead demi-god version of Liu Kang with one variation -- fireball throwing bicycle kicking turkey mode.
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Don't sweat it! They both get killed by the happy family Cage soon enough!
 
Lord Greyjoy said:
Try years. Havik is pulling a long, long con. If the dagger was able to curse Sub-Zero back in chapter 1, then Havik must have corrupted the magic before then and that's 10+ years before what's currently going on in the comics.
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Right! It's not at all like the guy is incapable of not being chaotic for even one second, he can absolutely blend in with "normal people" and pretend to be on the level for a while in order to progress his goals.

So what I'd like to see happen with him, ideally, is moving away from "chaos" this and "chaos" that, and finding out what it is about chaos that appeals to him. Is it that stagnation leads to decay, whereas dynamic change revitalizes life? Is it that conflict is cleansing for the soul, while bottling it up and repressing it can lead to self-destruction - and knowing yourself is the most important thing, anyway?

There should be a theory to it, even if it doesn't make sense to us non-Chaosrealming mortals.
 
It seems more like Havik is trying to unleash Shinnok by unlocking the dimension in which the amulet lies by uniting the kamidaggers.

Otherwise how the hell does Mileena get the amulet in the game? Reiko would never let her weild it so it's safe to assume he's gonna die in the comics before he could use it himself. But Havik's plan will most likely partially come to fruition as the amulet will have reappeared by the time the game comes around.
 
Look, it would be utterly pathetic if this ANCIENT cleric gets killed by a litttle girl with a gun or her trigger-happy mother after being alive for many, many years, having survived countless wars, order realm attacks, and fights with much stronger opponents, only to be killed off by a simple, puny human and her boring little unfair-toy.

Also the God of Strategy, Reiko must be killed by Mileena (I know he dies already, but not how) not by the hands of a little weak teenager and her pathetic mother.
 
BBBLP said:
That'd be a great twist. Havik was referenced as an "Ancient" Cleric.
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I once wrote a character, another Chaos Cleric being responsible for Shao Kahn's betrayal, whom Havik looked up to and was inspired by, hence why he tries to match his work in MKD-MKA... But it could easily be Havik himself who did it, depending on the lifespan of the Chaosrealmers.
 
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