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OmeGa531 said:
How do you figure Rain would've been born around the 10th MK tournament for Edenia and Outworld? Each Tournament is 50 years apart. you would be able to fit 20 tournaments in the time span of Rains life. He could easily been born before Edenia's last tournament that they lost to Outworld. NRS DOES reveal this to be true as Argus himself admits to Rain being his son whose identity he had kept hidden for so long. Although I agree with you that the story made more sense and was better when his father was just the Edenian general it, unfortunatly, isnt so.

I never said Daegon would be guranteed future appearances, just dont think he has been completely erased from Mk altogether.

You are right about Mileena and the others but those are small edits that some people may not have even noticed (except maybe Mileena's story)
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Because his MK9 bio states that he was orphaned by Shao Kahn's conquest of Edenia. He grew up under the protection of the Edenian Resistance, which I'm sure was established after Edenia's loss of the 10th MK tournament to try and fend off Shao Kahn's invasion of Edenia; there would be no reason to establish a seperate resistance before the 10th Edenian tournament, as there would be nothing to resist.


Sorry if I sound close-minded, but I just can't accept that Argus is Rain's father. It just doesn't make sense to me.
 
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Lex_Lutha111384 said:
I found it a few mins ago......sorry if its been posted.
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That's actually my desktop image :)
 
Bruce Norris Forever said:
Sorry if I sound close-minded, but I just can't accept that Argus is Rain's father. It just doesn't make sense to me.
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I'm trying to erase all that crap from my mind too :P amen to next mk not bringing back such failures of characters or stories or lack of imagination by the team or or or :P
 
Bruce Norris Forever said:
Because his MK9 bio states that he was orphaned by Shao Kahn's conquest of Edenia. He grew up under the protection of the Edenian Resistance, which I'm sure was established after Edenia's loss of the 10th MK tournament to try and fend off Shao Kahn's invasion of Edenia; there would be no reason to establish a seperate resistance before the 10th Edenian tournament, as there would be nothing to resist.


Sorry if I sound close-minded, but I just can't accept that Argus is Rain's father. It just doesn't make sense to me.
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No its not a problem, i kind of come off a little close minded myself when i go back and look at my comments. I guess that would make sense with his new bio out now. His old one just mentions him mysteriously returning in the 3rd game. I am also not a fan of where his story went in Armageddon, just seemed like a lame excuse to try and throw him in the thick of things. They should have just expanded on his UMK3 story. If NRS does change it back him being the son of the Edenian general then I for one will be happy.
 
Bruce Norris Forever said:
1. There are problems with this. One, Argus is a god and Rain is only 10,000 years old. Rain was only a child when Shao Kahn conquered Edenia. So that would mean Argus and Rain's mother would have had to given birth to him right around the time the 10th MK tournament for Edenia and Outworld, which is highly doubt. Argus is the Protector of Edenia, so I would think he'd be more concerned about the safety of Edenia than getting laid. So unless NRS ever reveals otherwise, the Edenian general IS the biological father of Rain. It would make much more sense.

2. So a cameo automatically confirms Daegon is making future appearences? Um I don't think so.

3. This is factually incorrect; they HAVE changed more than the paths of the timeline, more than once. Look at the backstory for Mileena. She was created during MK2 in the new timeline, and Shao Kahn favors her over Mileena. In the original, he favored Kitana and created Mileena in case Kitana ever found out the truth about her past. Also, Ermac was revealed in MK9 to be an entity of Edenian souls. In UMK3, he was said to be comprised of Outworld souls. In the original timeline, Kabal became a cop after the events of MK3. In the new timeline, he was already a cop before the events of MK3.
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1. Rain is from the ancient realm of Edenia. He hails as the child of Argus, Edenia's protector. It is currently unknown who his mother is, however Argus's shame of infidelity, caused him to exile Rain from his royal family. As a result, Rain was given to an unnamed, but key general, in the Edenian military. Rain is a demi-god, the son of a true god, and a human....

Seeing how taven and deagon were both alive way before edinea fell, it makes sense that so too was rain. Also it is known that Deagon was woken early and KILLED argus, thus making edenia lose its protector.

Which leads me to...

2. Yes a cameo means something in mortal kombat. When has it ever not? In every game throughout the entire series, there have been little cameos here and there and they have ALWAYS meant something.

3. Your last point is easy to shoot down because if you change one little thing in the past, you open up for a gigantic change in the future. Raiden was directing things based on his visions, and that changed everything.

and your wrong about the whole mileena thing. she had the same reason for being created here in both games. she was created as a backup in case kitana every turned on him.

Ermac... guess what? edenia and outworld have been merged a long time now... so its all the same thing.

Kabal could have left the clan because Kano was never returned to earthrealm after mk1 and stayed in outworld to give them weopons and was never shackled in the Colosseum.
 
Norticus said:
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1. Rain is from the ancient realm of Edenia. He hails as the child of Argus, Edenia's protector. It is currently unknown who his mother is, however Argus's shame of infidelity, caused him to exile Rain from his royal family. As a result, Rain was given to an unnamed, but key general, in the Edenian military. Rain is a demi-god, the son of a true god, and a human....

Seeing how taven and deagon were both alive way before edinea fell, it makes sense that so too was rain. Also it is known that Deagon was woken early and KILLED argus, thus making edenia lose its protector.

Which leads me to...

2. Yes a cameo means something in mortal kombat. When has it ever not? In every game throughout the entire series, there have been little cameos here and there and they have ALWAYS meant something.

3. Your last point is easy to shoot down because if you change one little thing in the past, you open up for a gigantic change in the future. Raiden was directing things based on his visions, and that changed everything.

and your wrong about the whole mileena thing. she had the same reason for being created here in both games. she was created as a backup in case kitana every turned on him.

Ermac... guess what? edenia and outworld have been merged a long time now... so its all the same thing.

Kabal could have left the clan because Kano was never returned to earthrealm after mk1 and stayed in outworld to give them weopons and was never shackled in the Colosseum.
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Ok, you're about 2 responses too late...

Did you read any of the last posts on the last page? I assume not. When you do, I'll respond to the part about Argus being Rain's father (which is yet to be proven in the new timeline).

Anyways, how the hell am I wrong about Mileena when the reason you gave was the EXACT same thing I stated? It's actually you that is wrong. In the prime universe, Mileena was originally created to completely replace Kitana if she were to turn away from his influence, but the flaws in her design (her Tarkatan teeth) made him instead make her keep a close eye on Kitana and make sure she stays loyal to Kahn, all the while pretending to be her "sister". Shao Kahn was more fond of Kitana in the original timeline, in this one he is more fond of Mileena, his "true" daughter, and she was not created with the purpose of watching over his "sister" like in the original timeline. In the original, she also developed a deep hatred for her sister, but in MK9 she doesn't have this jealousy due to only being created during MK2.

Edenia and Outworld weren't merged when Shao Kahn killed all the Edenian warriors that would later become Ermac. His UMK3 bio stated that his souls were deceased Outworld souls, which implies that they were native to Outworld.

And about Kabal, correct me if I'm wrong, but his MK3 ending said that he was a Black Dragon member when he was severly injured by Kahn's extermination squads.

And a cameo does not always mean anything in MK games or any game. That's why it's called a cameo. Are you going to tell me Rain's cameo or Kintaro's cameo in Deception's conquest meant anything canonically?

Raiden only changed many of the events of MK1 onwards, solely because of his visions, which he obviously didn't receive until the start of the 10th MK tournament in Earthrealm. He alone never changed anything before then. NRS just redid some of the established things with this particular entry being a reboot.
 
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Bruce Norris Forever said:
And a cameo does not always mean anything in MK games or any game. That's why it's called a cameo. Are you going to tell me Rain's cameo or Kintaro's cameo in Deception's conquest meant anything canonically?
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Well in fact, do you remember Rain's useless dagger in his waist in MKA? Its the dagger he asked Shujinko to search in Deception.
So that Rain cameo, means something, almost insignificant but is something.

But I get your point, cameos dont mean anything important (most of the cases), I doubt that Frost, Daegon or Taven (dont remember wich one), Tanya and other cameos will be realesed as DLC, and I hope not cause IMO those characters are very bland.

PS - This officialy the largest thread I made lmao
 
Fox17 said:
Well in fact, do you remember Rain's useless dagger in his waist in MKA? Its the dagger he asked Shujinko to search in Deception.
So that Rain cameo, means something, almost insignificant but is something.

But I get your point, cameos dont mean anything important (most of the cases), I doubt that Frost, Daegon or Taven (dont remember wich one), Tanya and other cameos will be realesed as DLC, and I hope not cause IMO those characters are very bland.

PS - This officialy the largest thread I made lmao
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You're right. I never fully realized he had a dagger on his waist until now.


I hope and think that Tanya will become DLC in the future. I'll leave it at that, though. :smile:

I agree about the others, though. Anyways, we're gonna get the Rain vignette tomorrow!
 
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