Next character to be revealed?

And I just think you are putting far too much emphasis on a couple people, when it's the group as a whole that makes the game the quality it can be. Boon being the one who directs things and makes sure everyone is going the same direction, and to make sure the quality and ideas are what he has envisioned.

Adding 1 man, Tom Brady, does not turn MKvsDC, into MK9.

More time to work on the game.
A bigger budget.
Executives not trying to change the game's direction or push it's release quicker etc.
A return to 2D

To me...those all play a much bigger part than one competitive player's input, or a couple new programmers/playtesters with more knowledge of competitive gaming.

Granted, those people help, but there's still the same 60+ people from the previous games, as well as the head of the studio, and none of them have changed. They were just given a better opportunity, better support, and returned to what they knew how to make, and that's a 2D fighting game. I bet you had you taken those same competitive players, added people, and they tried making another 3D MK under Midway, and you'd get something much closer to MK:DA-MKvsDC, than MK9 or Injustice.

I just feel you are going to 1 extreme, whereas i'm stating it's more a shade of gray, but leaning towards the opposite than your reasoning.
 
Which NRS employees were responsible for making Kenshi such a brain dead character? I need a conversation with those people. :evil:
 
Metal Overlord said:
Well Critical, that's exactly what he's arguing against lol

He doesn't think that a few new members/Tom Brady/whoever alone are able to make such a difference in MK9's development to actually make it good

After all, like you said, a lot of those members were there for input, to ensure the game's quality gameplay/competitive-wise is on point. And for them to ensure that, it would have had to be a good game in the first place or at least had the foundation for it. Which is what the original team would be responsible for
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Exactly. I'm not saying those guys don't help or play a part...i'm saying without the original team, or the changes from Midway to WB, as well as the 2D approach instead of 3D, I highly doubt those guys would help much of anything.
 
I would love Poison Ivy or at least Scarecrow, but honestly, I think Bane might be the last Batman character we get if he's playable.

I hope we get at least one more, but I dunno, this might be it for Batman, at least until DLC comes into the picture.
 
Blackcyborg said:
Exactly. I'm not saying those guys don't help or play a part...i'm saying without the original team, or the changes from Midway to WB, as well as the 2D approach instead of 3D, I highly doubt those guys would help much of anything.
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I don't think you have enough knowledge on the competitive aspect of how different it is to make a competitive fighter vs a casual fighter.

you yourself admitted you don't care about the competitive aspect. And you make it sound like the more you put together high level competitive minds putting in their opinions on the game in early development didn't have a much stronger effect than them working with making a true competitive deep game their first time.

I think you're giving too much credit to the guys that made the shitty games prior to MK9.

It's not just 2-D.

Plenty of people like a game like Tekken and it's 3-D


It failed cuz their games failed. Not because of it's basic designs but rather it's in-depth micro designs. overall web-set of how moves interact with moves.

Of course the basis of the team still played a role.

but they obviously themselves aren't the changed variable.

It's scientific method. what changed for the good? look at changed variables.

money
competitive player input.
a few added employees because of money.

aka...

it's not the same team.


EDIT: a note

Beinga part of warner bros is obviously not even a factoring variable. As MKvsDC also sucked and they were a part of Warner Brothers then.




EDIT2:

I mean would you consider capcom back when they made Resident evil 2 and Street fighter (2-D games) and Megaman X games ect.


the same company that brought you Resident Evil 6, and DmC?

The mindset is completely changed and they didn't change the ENTIRE workbase.

They added people, got new minds that have strong input on direction of the game should go.


A different team.

same name.
 
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Actually they weren't part of Warner Bros. yet lol, MKvsDC was their last game before Midway went bankrupt and sold the rights to MK to WB.

WB only co-published it, they were still Midway when they made MKvsDC.
 
Metal Overlord said:
Actually they weren't part of Warner Bros. yet lol, MKvsDC was their last game before Midway went bankrupt and sold the rights to MK to WB.

WB only co-published it, they were still Midway when they made MKvsDC.
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Mortal Kombat vs. DC Universe (MK vs. DC) is a crossover fighting game from Midway Games (in its last project before being bankrupt and sold the rights[4]), and Warner Bros. Games (in its project debut and unrestricted ESRB rating with DC Comics). The game was released on November 16, 2008 and contains both franchise characters. Its story was written by comic writers Jimmy Palmiotti and Justin Gray.
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they still worked together. do you think Warner brothers come down there with their big boy CEO and tell boon how to make a mortal kombat?

no.

The only difference here is money, not Warner Brothers themselves.
 
As far as the DC/story part of it, yeah, they worked together, but they didn't really have a huge part at all in the development of the game besides the fatalities if that's what you're implying. Midway and Midway alone is still responsible for how the gameplay turned out
 
Metal Overlord said:
As far as the DC/story part of it, yeah, they worked together, but they didn't really have a huge part at all in the development of the game besides the fatalities if that's what you're implying. Midway and Midway alone is still responsible for how the gameplay turned out
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well then that just further proves my point...

that Warner brothers is not a factor worth discussing.

The money they give them, IS however.
 
I get what you're saying Critical, but I think you might be taking Blackcyborg's statement about WB a little too literally. I think his point all along was that the benefits that came with the change from Midway to WB (money, increased development time, more people) are factors in how good MK9 turned out to be, and that by "the changes from Midway to WB", he really meant "the changes that came from moving from Midway to WB". The reason I think that is because his previous posts in here pretty much say exactly what I'm saying he might be saying.

I don't think he literally meant that Warner Bros. owning MK itself was a factor. Basically I think you two are actually on the same page here lol
 
Metal Overlord said:
I get what you're saying Critical, but I think you might be taking Blackcyborg's statement about WB a little too literally. I think his point all along was that the benefits that came with the change from Midway to WB (money, increased development time, more people) are factors in how good MK9 turned out to be, and that by "the changes from Midway to WB", he really meant "the changes that came from moving from Midway to WB". The reason I think that is because his previous posts in here pretty much say exactly what I'm saying he might be saying.

I don't think he literally meant that Warner Bros. owning MK itself was a factor. Basically I think you two are actually on the same page here lol
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If that's the case then all this typing was for nothing.

Thank you for properly clearing up his stance.
 
Alright so for those of you who know about coding and reverse engineering: Penguin and MMHunter has been confirmed

The files are in the pic that Ed Boon tweeted.

Look at the left monitor.

https://twitter.com/i/#!/noobde/media/slideshow?url=http://twitpic.com/buebn0

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They gotta get The Penguin up in this... seems like a Character NRS would experiment with, classic Batman super villain and there could def be an awesome move set. Super Move could be the penguin mobile strapped with explosives running over the opponent, leaving it pinned on tip of him The Penguin gets out lights a cigar and pulls out the detonator. BOOM.
 
Yea raven and Shazam are in but in this hint, Boon has Penguin, Martian man hunter, and DLC ???? along with the cinematsic folder with the AIAS folder.

For those that don't know coding:

these a hubs and it would work in IF/else format
so IF > Penguin and oponent is Batman
> Penguin vs Catwaman (false)
> Penguin Vs Wonder Woman (false)
> Penguin VS Batman (true)

These folders are the source for the code and the actual location of the character model itself.

How do I know? It's how I unlocked Goro, Kintaro, and Shao Kahn on a modded PS3.
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