MK movie update/MK Legacy discussion

With the decent budget they have for the movie, I sincerely hope they use it wisely and efficiently as possible. Hire a serious martial arts choreographer like Yuen Woo Ping, concentrate a decent amount to super realistic visual and special effects, and PLEASE, PLEASE write a script that doesn't sound like a Grade Schooler's work. (cough, Legacy 2, cough)
 
It kinda bothers me how the fights were so short, and you can barely see scorpion and subzeros legs similar to season one, they should zoom out and let us see the fight, i dont want to be up in their faces all the time. plus is all punches, and just one flying kick, after the second viewing you can see scorpion throwing a few weak punches, obviously not trying to hurt the subzero actor.

Also It was cool to see subzero slide move but they could have done it better, for example how about he shoots ice at the floor and comes running sliding on the ice doing his slide move on scorpion/? plus no blood shooting out while punching, and when scorpion did his fatality how about he pushed subz shoulder down putting some force down being able to rip his head out, is impossible to rip his head out just by holding his head, he would lift up his whole body.
 
It kinda bothers me how the fights were so short, and you can barely see scorpion and subzeros legs similar to season one, they should zoom out and let us see the fight, i dont want to be up in their faces all the time. plus is all punches, and just one flying kick, after the second viewing you can see scorpion throwing a few weak punches, obviously not trying to hurt the subzero actor.

Also It was cool to see subzero slide move but they could have done it better, for example how about he shoots ice at the floor and comes running sliding on the ice doing his slide move on scorpion/? plus no blood shooting out while punching, and when scorpion did his fatality how about he pushed subz shoulder down putting some force down being able to rip his head out, is impossible to rip his head out just by holding his head, he would lift up his whole body.

Yeah, they fight scenes were very lackluster. I also don't understand why Legacy 2 was full of cheap references to the games and they left the most obvious, unique and stylish one out: do a fight scene with the camera viewing the combatants just like we have in the game, even the original MK movie had some clever visual nods in that direction. Here, some cheap references is all we've got.

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Think it's safe to say that the game (2011) did a better job at storytelling than these webseries...
Actually the game did a much much MUCH better job at storytelling in its story mode. That is kinda ridiculous and really shows how atrocious Legacy 2 ended up being if you think about it. :D Coherency and continuity are non-existent things for the guys behind this.
 
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I'm not defending the script cause I think it was mostly bad, but let's keep in mind that the game also had like 6 hours to tell the story where these 2 seasons had 9 minutes episodes. They wasted so much time with flash backs though. I just don't get it.
 
Pros:
- Kenshi's episodes are by far my favourite of the series.
- Liu Kang's new persona is pretty good. I didn't think I would like it but I did. But it's weird how a lot of him wanted him to be evil. Now that he, people still hating? Just can't please MK fans.
- Most of the fights were aight.
- The Atmosphere of it was great. Loved the feeling I was getting.
- Everyone hates how the two clans decided to stop their bullshit. I thought it was a pretty good idea. I mean, Bi Han is the "nice guy" of the two brothers. I would understand why he would want to. And while it's believable that Kuan Lian kill Scorpion's clan and family.
- Again, I have to compliment Liu Kang. His fight scenes were sick. Him and Kenshi are prolly my favourite of the series so far.
- The fatalities. The one that got me OOOHHHH O___O Was Kitana vs Mileena. And the it has me LOLing when Johnny stabbed Mileena's foot for his sunglasses.

Cons:
- I didn't like the acting too much.
- I think they should look for another Kung Lao and Raiden. For some reason, I don't get the feel that those actors look like the characters.
- I wish there was more episodes and longer time.
- Effects were not bad.
- I didn't like how some of the things escalated quickly. Just seem'd like it was rushed. Then again, that goes back to the more episodes and long time.
- They really didn't go into the whole THIS IS THE TOURNAMENT type of thing. Just seemed like a find, fight, and kill type of thing.
- Both Sub-Zeros are dead -.-
- Styker and Johnny didn't play an important role. They were just there. Just seemed like they were weaklings.


And I guess am the only one who didn't care about the cliff hanger. If anything, the cliff hanger from MK9 still bugs me.
 
the one and only thing that i really liked and want to see more of is the older clan members from both sides. scorpions dad and Bi han/ kuai liangs dad obviously know of each other yet they never go into detail why they hate each other so much. I liked how they made them childhood friends but I wish they would explore beyond that a little more.
 
Legacy 2 reminded me of Tekken the animated motion capture film. Both were about putting characters in the wild and have them find each other just to kill each other. In my opinion, it isn't bad but I just wished they could've done a better job by making the episodes longer with a minimum of 20 minutes each.

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The second season should've ended after Kung Lao and Liu Kang fought. Maybe with both getting along with each other at the end or with Liu Kang escaping. Then it should've said, "To be kontinued".
 
So does anyone else have a feeling they already shot for a third season? It would make sense considering they had the time. Some movies like harry potter and pirates did that when they divided them in two.
 
Maybe its just me but...does anyone think that there might be more to Liu's gal being killed and his turn to the darkside than meets the eye?
Perhaps Shang was one of those Robbers in disguise and actually the one who took the gal's life?

Perhaps this is a plot by Shang to destroy Kang piece by piece for apparently 'taking his head'. Perhaps Shang is using Kang, like Chi is using Scorpion?

They already seem to be going in the same route; revenge for something.

Have kang kill all the earthrealm guys to where they can claim earth then reveal when it all said and done that it was all a lie, I killed your gal, convinced u that humanity was not worth protecting, just so happens kung lao turned his back on you, so in the end you(the former champ) could turn on earth and help outworld claim a victory. Now you are of no use to me, you die now" sorta thing?

Good thinking out there. . Many people thought that season 2 storyline is set after the 1st tournament because of the line that Liu said about "taking off" Shang's head, but they forgot that in the JC episode, it is set 1 week after JC got recruited by Lord Raiden. .
 
So does anyone else have a feeling they already shot for a third season? It would make sense considering they had the time. Some movies like harry potter and pirates did that when they divided them in two.

I hope in the third season characters like Jax, Sonya, Kano, Kabal, Cyrax, and Sektor will appear in the tournament in another part of that same location.

I also hope Jade, Sindel, Skarlet, Shao Kahn, and Rain will appear in that area too but as a group.
 
Great.
Both Sub-Zero's dead?
Scorpion performing Sub-Zero's MK1 fatality?
In the words of Johnny Cage at the end of episode 5, "F*** that."

Liu Kang being evil in this kinda goes with what I would expect from MK10 if he's somehow revived.

As for flashbacks, I agree with pgd42.
Too much time was wasted on flashbacks.
The only flashback that should have been there was Kenshi's, because it showed how he was blinded.
The other flashbacks? Meh

That being said, I was fine with the overall atmosphere of MK: Legacy II.
It had a good amount of fantasy elements, while holding on to the feeling of this being a tournament with warriors fighting each other.
 
So does anyone else have a feeling they already shot for a third season? It would make sense considering they had the time. Some movies like harry potter and pirates did that when they divided them in two.

I heard they were going to shot a 3rd season. I have a feeling they'll release the movie when MK10 comes out.

Great.
Both Sub-Zero's dead?
Scorpion performing Sub-Zero's MK1 fatality?
In the words of Johnny Cage at the end of episode 5, "F*** that."

As for flashbacks, I agree with pgd42.
Too much time was wasted on flashbacks.
The only flashback that should have been there was Kenshi's, because it showed how he was blinded.
The other flashbacks? Meh

I'M REALLY REALLY REALLY hoping they didn't make that move to turn one of them into Cyber Sub-Zero. But I do know one of them is going to be Noob Saibot haha.

And yes. I felt like they wasted too much time on that as well. I think Liu Kang's flashback was reasonable though considering he didn't have his own episode last season. Also showing why he's evil now.

lol I'm not even sure if you can call this a tournament. More like a free-for-all lol

And I agree with this. Kind of reminded me of The Hunger Games.
 
I'M REALLY REALLY REALLY hoping they didn't make that move to turn one of them into Cyber Sub-Zero. But I do know one of them is going to be Noob Saibot haha.

And yes. I felt like they wasted too much time on that as well. I think Liu Kang's flashback was reasonable though considering he didn't have his own episode last season. Also showing why he's evil now.

At this point, I don't mind, as long as Sub-Zero's not completely out of the picture.

The same goes for MK10.
Unlockable or Krypt unlockable, but I hope SZ is not completely out. :(

Yeah, Liu Kang's flashback was good too, but I wish that they would have just shown that in the first episode, instead of jumping back and forth.
 
I was really into season 1, so I was expecting to enjoy season 2 a lot. But I didn't. In fact, though no, it's not quite as bad as Annihilation, or some other MK products, it was pretty bad!

These were some of my issues with it:

Is the Stryker from this season supposed to be the Stryker from the last? Is it just me, or is there, like, zero correlation between the two? They seem to be one foot in and one foot out in how much they're re-imagining the characters. It'd be easier to be stoked about this relatively accurate depiction of Stryker and Scorpion if some of the others weren't SO different. I don't mind re-imagined characters, but you gotta go all the way with it. I'm all about bad ass bar-fightin' Liu Kang, but when he's getting tasererd by this retconned Stryker, I can't get invested, because I don't know the guy. I know the other guy: The Dollhouse/Battlestar Galactica guy who bosses Jax around and wears a nice tan suit. That guy and tasers and pep talks to Johnny Cage don't jive right. It's a completely new character, and I won't feel anything when he's dead.

The realism in this one is totally ed. There is a slow transition occuring with every iteration of this product from this very gritty, realistic, Se7en-esque re-imagining to the cheesy effects-driven, unnecessarily flipping, arbitrarily magical thing that was MK Annihilation. I feel like with the first season they hit a near-perfect balance. With the exception of the Mileena/Kitana episodes, everything seemed grounded, and somewhat plausible. We see that Rayden inhabits human bodies to be corporeal. We see that Sub-Zero's ice and Scorpion's spear can exist in this reality without looking cheesy or offensive. We see the cyborgs and cybernetic devices from the game implemented realistically and believably. But then this thing? Everyone teleports to the island in a cool-guy pose. How did they get there? If we believe the previous scene, they got there through some kind of weird meditation. Meditation that lifts dumpsters for some reason. Meditation that changes your clothes, and makes sure you land in a cool fighting pose with all your weapons out. In literally every other incarnation they get there by boat. There is nothing wrong with boats. Boats are awesome. In season 2 we immediately learn that everybody has powers. EVERYBODY. So, cryomancy? Not a thing. Same with the Mediterranean cult origin to Johnny's abilities: Not a thing. Everybody has supernatural powers, and the island brings it out. Stryker only needs that taser 'cause he's yet to discover his secret laser shooting powers or whatever. Sure, Scorpion's a specter, but it doesn't matter! He probably would have discovered his teleporting ability even if he wasn't dead!

The effects, compared to season 1 especially, are unforgivably bad. Liu Kang throws fireballs that look like stock fire against a greenscreen compossited in with no camera tracking. There's 3D vomit at one point that was particularly offensive. Compare that to the amazingly impressive, convincing and very-much grounded cyborg fight from season 1, and the signs point to the sorry truth, and the reason behind most of these issues: The budget was axed, clearly. One of the exceptions to this was the effect of aforementioned floating dumpsters and teleporting, which made no sense anyway, so who cares? (Also, to be fair, all the gore looked pretty cool too)

Ermac tentacles: Whhyyyyyyyy??

How old are some of these characters? In legacy 1, the events never collide, so we never really have to believe that there's a cohesive story going on. I'm sure eventually I'll know why characters who expressly exist in different eras of Japanese history are all in the same present, but it's not explained here, so clearly, much like Kung Lao changing clothes after teleporting to the island, I'm just supposed to take it at face value.

Mortal Kombat is a tournament. They keep calling it a tournament. I couldn't believe how many times I heard the word "tournament". But because of the way this thing was formatted, I get to hear the word and know it's wrong simultaneously. In no sense of the word is what is presented on the island a 'tournament'. It is Battle Royale. The characters run around this island, engaging at random, with seemingly whatever resources or weapons they might have wanted to bring with them. Let's not even question why Johnny wouldn't bring a weapon at all. Let's instead question why, if there's two teams, each group fighting on the same side, why would they ever split up or engage seperately?? They're clearly allowed to engage simultaneously, so why wouldn't they? They could have solved this easily by doing a single-elimination tournament, like in literally every other iteration. But nope. It's the Hunger Games.

I didn't hate everything mind you. A lot of the episodes had great moments! But I felt like the crappy bits from the first season were the exception, and not the rule. I loved all the Liu Kang and Shang Tsung stuff, more or less. All the episodes had a good moment or two. The relationship between Scorpion and Sub-Zero was neat. The fights were neat. Johnny saying "You got Caged, " was neat. But they seemed like good moments in a sea of bad ideas.

There's somewhat of a consensus that the story mode of MK9 is probably the best representation we're ever going to get of this story. I believe that's true. But man, it would have been great to have gotten a really awesome live action version of that story. Oh well.

I was very excited about KTanch's new MK movie before I watched this. Now, not so much.
 
People comparing this to Annihilation.

That's like saying the Kindergarten timeout corner reminds you of Auschwitz
 
People comparing this to Annihilation.

That's like saying the Kindergarten timeout corner reminds you of Auschwitz

At least the story in MK Annihilation was not disfunctional: it was baaaaad, it had its fair share of plotholes even but as a simple story it actually worked. You can't say that about the totally disfunctional, disjointed piece of crap they want to sell you as a story in Legacy 2, also I found the over the top fight scenes of Annihilation more enjoyable (hey, it had a lot of fight scenes so some of them were quite good for the time). In Legacy 2, sometimes it feels like the fighters are just having a bar brawl and kick and punch each other randomly. So imo even if the thought feels a bit wild at first it isn't too far from reality if people say they find it worst or just as bad as Annihilation.
 
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I think the issue with legacy 2 is that it focuses primarily on the stories of the characters, like a bunch of MK9 vignettes loosely strung together.

The reason tournament movies fail is because you try to focus on "too many characters simultaneously. that would be like playing with a glitchy Shang Tsung that morphs about as randomly as the selection screen Random box.

If you want to make a decent tournament movie then you simply tell the "Story of the Tournament"

Start with a brief overview of how and why the tournament began. Give a brief history the universe that these places and characters exist in. Now I'm no writer but something like this:

Within this Greater universe there exist the realms,small pockets of space and time separated by but a blink of the mind's eye. each governed by its own laws and principals that bind them unto reality. They are the counter weights of existence, each a manifestation of the polarities that exist to keep creation in balance.
Some are worlds of the physical, (show our earth) some are of the ethereal (show the netherrealm) some are governed by unflinching Law and Order (show seido) and there are those that are not governed by anything at all (show chaos realm).There are Those that are ruled by Sorcery and Necromancy(outworld) those that are governed by Culture, Beauty and Longevity( Edenia). Some are governed by technology and mysticism(Earthrealm) and some are governed by instinct and primordial savagery(zaterra)

As vastly different as these realms may be, there is a common thread that they are all tethered by. the Soul. The very essence of creation itself. It is what makes life, and in turn, reality possible. It is pure power in its most unrefined form yet one that cannot be harvested through normal means.

There are those who through manipulation of the dark arts and necromancy have discovered that the soul can be harvested through the destruction of the mortal shell and consumed through unholy methods conceived by the ONI. An race of demonic beings who feed on the fear and desire corrupted souls of mortal men. They have opened Portals to other realms, against the sanctions of the Elder Gods and have slaughtered entire worlds in an attempt to harvest the most forbidden of resources. They have Consumed and destroyed one world entirely and have merged yet another. This world, Earthrealm was next.

I could not stand by and watch as this world, my world was drained of every last vestige of what i had grown to care for.

The Elder Gods had refused to intervene in the presence of mortals and resolved to let "nature take its course".

I, "Raiden" god of the Storm, and protector of Earthrealm had drawn the Lesser Gods to hold consortium on the collective fates of the worlds which we oversee. The Council lasted centuries. Finally after much deliberation we had reached a decision. I presented these conditions to the Elders to which They accepted. A Tournament would be held. Each time on a different world, the greatest warriors of each realm would compete for the survival of there Species. They would have to win 10 tournaments for their world to be spared. If they lost they would be consumed by the invading power, the lives lost in the ensuing battles would be tribute , blood sacrifices, to the Elder Gods. The souls of the fallen would be at the discretion of the victor to be allowed reconfigure (reincarnation) or be consumed.

Our enemies. The Outworld. Led by the Shadow High Priest, Shang Tsung he is Evil and treachery incarnate. once a former representative of Earthrealm he was seduced by allure dark power and the promise of immortality. He willingly bartered his soul for everlasting life in the service of the Outworld Emperor. Shao Kahn.

They have won 9 tournaments through Brutality, Deceiption and Sorcery . This is our last chance for survival. I have personally gathered the strongest warriors Earthrealm has to offer. Warriors of exceptional and, "otherworldly" talents. Young warriors willing to give their lives to defend the only world they have and I will stand with them.

There is no guarantee of who will be victorious, there is no guarantee of who will go home when the dust settles.

The only Guarantee is that blood will be spilled and lives will be lost. This is the battle, this is the struggle of life and death.

This is Mortal Kombat.


I don't know thats kind of the direction i hoped it would move in. this is just the opening mind you the narration would be accompanied by a montage of sorts outlining the story and the characters. you don'r have to do character introduction just story introduction. you can handle character back stories through merchandising.
 
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