liu kang role?

[GloriousDK]

Well here's something really strange. That actor's answer on ask.fm has been redacted. Someone has a video of the post the guy made before it got deleted and several other sources are pointing to a deletion of said information... where ever they can find it. Now it's coming off as an honest to god leak.

 

[theincubuslord]

Well here's something really strange. That actor's answer on ask.fm has been redacted. Someone has a video of the post the guy made before it got deleted and several other sources are pointing to a deletion of said information... where ever they can find it. Now it's coming off as an honest to god leak.

Or he lied and was asked to take down the false information. Fact is... we don't know. It could be either. Hence why people should just wait for an official confirmation.

 

[GloriousDK]

That is ridiculous. Why would a professional actor lie about what role they're playing? What would he gain from doing such a thing when every professional actor knows damn well to never deny or confirm anything or at the very least confirm anything.

What's most likely is that the guy DIDN'T lie but made a huge mistake in revealing information that NRS didn't want revealed. Seriously? His post gets deleted and you're going to automatically jump to the possibility that he lied instead of made a stupid mistake? Holy shit. At this point, I'm suspecting that you all have some serious investments in Liu NOT being in the game from denying reasonable evidence to the contrary to calling people liars. Jesus.

 

[theincubuslord]

That is ridiculous. Why would a professional actor lie

Kiefer Sutherland. That's all I'm gonna say.

 

[PhantomCyrax]

There is some serious denial in this thread about that statue clearly looking like Kang. Its not like he has a headband and is doing a classic Shaolin pose.

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[GloriousDK]

So you're going to assume the actor is lying instead of doing and honest mistake that anyone could have done?

Anyone can accidentally do a leak. But we're really going to just call the guy a liar?

 

[GloriousDK]

There is some serious denial in this thread about that statue clearly looking like Kang. Its not like he has a headband and is doing a classic Shaolin pose.

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Have you heard? It's Takeda. You know... that Shirai Ryu ninja that Scorpion trained? Yeah. For some reason, he likes to pretend he's a Shaolin monk.

 

[theincubuslord]

So you're going to assume the actor is lying instead of doing and honest mistake that anyone could have done?

Anyone can accidentally do a leak. But we're really going to just call the guy a liar?

No, because unlike you, I don't assume anything. The possibility is there though, but until we hear any official source confirming otherwise, I'm not going to jump to any conclusions.

 

[Kitty_55]

I figured as much. I'm just saying that I can pull up several sources of the Italian voice actor for Liu Kang going on record and saying that he's in the game in some form... if anything, as a voice. Jesus... I don't even like Liu Kang. But the burden of proof was on me to help prove the claim t hat he's in in some capacity and no matter what evidence I bring forth, they're just outright denying it up and down which is REALLY unfair.

Again, Maurizio responding to the question with "Liu Kang " doesn't imply squat. For all we know, he could be lying. Who knows, since nothing legitamately confirmed whether or not this is true, nothing is confirmed unless there's actual proof that he is indeed voicing a character that is in this game.

If he legitimately leaked his own voiced character, this would have been huge news. Sadly, it isn't. And please don't respond "Well it's Italian so not that many people would know this." We've had German magazines leaking things, I don't think other countries wouldn't be looked at for stuff like this as well.



And going off on the actual "role" topic, let's talk about him being some deranged fire god. I don't think people understood his ending. Here's the thing. Why would Liu Kang suddenly turn evil when the whole purpose of his arcade ending was to become Earthrealm's protector? He felt that Raiden was "more of a burden than an ally" and wanted his god status, as he demanded that from the Elder Gods. Liu Kang has never once appeared as a threat to anyone on the good side in the series, with the exception of Deception, and even then, it clearly states that he was not in control of his actions... despite that he could see and feel everything that was going on.

Where is this sudden evil change? Because if so many are dying to see this fire god Liu Kang, be the "boss" at the end, what would make him become evil to where we have to defeat/destroy/kill him? That wouldn't make any sense whatsoever.

I mean its not theyre favorite character so of course theyre gonna do that.

Or maybe it's "I'd like to have solid proof" than going out on a limb and jumping the gun for every god forsaken speculation/rumor. I have never stated that I disliked him. I could't care less whether or not he's in, I would rather have people stop immediately jumping the gun on ever god forsaken speculation, as well as stop being so prissy when someone thinks else wise.

That is literally why I'm debating here.

Have you heard? It's Takeda. You know... that Shirai Ryu ninja that Scorpion trained? Yeah. For some reason, he likes to pretend he's a Shaolin monk.

I love how you're mocking me now. Keep it up, you're doing a fabulous job! ;-)

 

[GloriousDK]

No, because unlike you, I don't assume anything. The possibility is there though, but until we hear any official source confirming otherwise, I'm not going to jump to any conclusions.

You suggested a conclusion. It's possible that any number of factors for his post deletion could happen. HE could have lied. He could have gotten fired and someone else is voicing Liu. He could have had an honest leak by mistake.

But out of any option, it's most likely he made a mistake instead of anything else. So we've got a statue that looks very much like Liu Kang and a "liar" whose post about playing Liu kang got deleted. Clearly the image of Liu Kang is actually Goro. Even the picture is a lie and totally doctored.

 

[GloriousDK]

I love how you're mocking me now. Keep it up, you're doing a fabulous job! ;-)

Yeah, because everyone else in Mortal Kombat posed just like Liu Kang once. I remember when Kabal had that exact same winning pose. Clearly he got some work done. Wait... old school Sonya had a headband and mullet shaped hair like that. It's actually Sonya. Silly me. We all should have seen that one coming. Especially since she posed like a Shaolin Monk after a fight as well.

 

[theincubuslord]

But out of any option, it's most likely he made a mistake instead of anything else.

And again, fact is, we don't know before we have any solid proof, as Kitty stated. Until then, everything else is just speculation.

 

[Aldo Moreno]

I feel like the salt is gonna be real when they reveal liu as part of the storyline and completely playable

Yo, for real lol. I remember everyone was thinking he wasn't gonna be back for MK9. He came back and the backlash was real.

I'll be pretty salty if he's a boss character though. The role he plays in MK rebirth would be a better Liu Kang than the g0d f0Rm Ru Kng. Liu Kang being a God is generic and predictable.

 

[Kitty_55]

You suggested a conclusion. It's possible that any number of factors for his post deletion could happen. HE could have lied. He could have gotten fired and someone else is voicing Liu. He could have had an honest leak by mistake.

But out of any option, it's most likely he made a mistake instead of anything else. So we've got a statue that looks very much like Liu Kang and a "liar" whose post about playing Liu kang got deleted. Clearly the image of Liu Kang is actually Goro. Even the picture is a lie and totally doctored.

The person who literally asked Maurizio the question even stated "without saying who." A voice actor would not be that flucking careless to spoil things like that out in the open when working on a game that likes to reveal things their own way.

I happen to speak Italian just for the record. ;-)

 

[GloriousDK]

And again, fact is, we don't know before we have any solid proof, as Kitty stated. Until then, everything else is just speculation.

Yeah and there's speculation based on evidence and speculation just pulled out of a hat for the lulz. It's not my fault of anyone elses' whose speculation has the most proof of evidence behind it which it looks to be Liu Kang. Our speculation has concrete evidence though not conclusive while other speculations are grasping as wisps of suggestions with no basis of any supporting evidence short of just not knowing at all.

 

[Liu Kang93]

Hey guys remember when this thread was about what role Liu Kang Is playing in MKx In or not. Yeah I think im going to continue that now seeing as all you guys what to do is argue back and forth on him being in the game or not

So what I think would be kinda cool (i also said this in another thread) if Liu forgave raiden after realizing he was wrong but still not being able to trust him because of the levels Raiden will stoop to save earthrealm , and now that Johnny is champion Liu could go Kenshin style and become a wanderer to find a new purpose. Only to show up when he feels he needs to during the final battle to assist everyone (somewhat like how Cloud and Co. showed up to help Vincent in Derge of Cerberus) I also think it would be cool if they did like a passing of the torch from Liu to Cassie. from hero to hero (assuming cassie is the main hero of MKX)

Idk thats just what I think might be neat..... Ill be fine with anything as long as its not Evil final boss liu, fire god liu or a mix of both all of that is just Super duper ultra hyper lame!!!

 

[GloriousDK]

I'm not totally sure that Liu will be evil. The image of Liu suggests he might be Fire God Liu. We don't know what happened to the champion after he died and he did die during a moment when elder gods got involved with the invasion. It's possible I think that Liu has become a lesser god for his valiant defense of Earthrealm. He could be a tragic big bad where he's only the boss because Raiden is threatened by his emergence as a god. Johnny Cage is Raiden's champion. But I think I remember Liu being Earth's champion. That's pretty telling.

 

[Kitty_55]

Yeah, because everyone else in Mortal Kombat posed just like Liu Kang once. I remember when Kabal had that exact same winning pose. Clearly he got some work done. Wait... old school Sonya had a headband and mullet shaped hair like that. It's actually Sonya. Silly me. We all should have seen that one coming. Especially since she posed like a Shaolin Monk after a fight as well.

If you're going to nothing but mock me because I'm debating with you, I think it's about that time you step away from the computer and take a deep breath, or grow up... Whichever is more important.

You see, unlike most users, I don't jump to immediate conclusions from pure speculations and rumors. I'm the minority that actually likes to wait for a legit reveal and wait for concrete proof to base stuff on rather than the rumor mill. You're talking about a character that has died in the last game, has not been mentioned once, and going so far to say any one who's denying that Liu Kang is in the game is wrong. You and a few others. I don't have a problem with people thinking he might be in the game, but I do have a problem with people not accepting other people's opinions and respecting them.

I am not set and stone on the character in that image being Takeda. I've only mentioned him as a possibility since he is one of two characters that we have seen with a headband. And since things that we're seeing in these trailers have been mentioned that are NOT FINALIZED, who knows what that pose will later turn into if it's going to get toyed by the developers. I'm taking a wild guess here and saying that it's this character, but I shouldn't have to have someone starting to disrespect me and mock me towards other users because I made a suggestion, something that you too have been doing a lot in here.

I suggest you either put me on ignore, or knock it off with the immaturity and pull your big boy pants up. Kay? Thanks.

Anyways....

HIdk thats just what I think might be neat..... Ill be fine with anything as long as its not Evil final boss liu, fire god liu or a mix of both all of that is just Super duper ultra hyper lame!!!

As I mentioned in one of my posts (which that part obviously got ignored because it was placed right in the middle of a debate post) I stated that Liu Kang has never once shown any kind of evil in him with the exception of Deception. But with that, he was somewhat not in control of his reanimated corpse.

I do not see a purpose for him turning evil suddenly all because he's "a god" or "a boss." They've toyed around with this character far too many times, doing something like that would just be another utter disappointment seeing how I don't recall that many actually liking zombie Liu Kang.

If he returns, I don't want him evil at all. Neutral is as far as I'll go, nothing evil.

 

[theincubuslord]

Yeah and there's speculation based on evidence and speculation just pulled out of a hat for the lulz. It's not my fault of anyone elses' whose speculation has the most proof of evidence behind it which it looks to be Liu Kang. Our speculation has concrete evidence though not conclusive while other speculations are grasping as wisps of suggestions with no basis of any supporting evidence short of just not knowing at all.

The evidence you have is a tweet that was retracted and a blurry image that has a slight resemblance to Liu Kang. Remember when everyone was so sure Smoke was in MKX because there was a grey ninja-looking character appearing in some of the characters' Variation select on the character select screen? Another blurry image and so far there is no proof what so ever that he is in the game.

I am not saying it isn't Liu Kang. But I am not saying it is either.

 

[GloriousDK]

If you're going to nothing but mock me because I'm debating with you, I think it's about that time you step away from the computer and take a deep breath, or grow up... Whichever is more important.

There's being skeptical and then there's being deliberately obtuse. The contention is that unless that pic is a third costume for Takeda, which is possible, it doesn't look remotely like him short of a headband. Yet from what I'm seeing on my screen, it really DOES indeed look like some weird new design for Liu Kang and that pose is very very very very very undeniably reminiscent of Liu. I'm going on what we know about Liu. He has a headband, my monitor actually shows that the headband is clearly red (my monitor is correctly calibrated), and that is one of his old school poses from MK1 to MK2 and most of his winning poses have been a variation of that pose for the longest time.

You see, unlike most users, I don't jump to immediate conclusions from pure speculations and rumors.

But your conclusion or inclination that it's Takeda really IS just speculation. You've got a headband. That's it. The rest of the image looks nothing like Takeda's armor. But the image that I'm actually seeing and the evidence brought forth, whatever you want to call it, has been rather compelling.

I'm the minority that actually likes to wait for a legit reveal and wait for concrete proof to base stuff on rather than the rumor mill. You're talking about a character that has died in the last game, has not been mentioned once, and going so far to say any one who's denying that Liu Kang is in the game is wrong. You and a few others.

And yet they've not deconfirmed Liu Kang and the voice actor mentioned Liu Kang's name and it was then deleted. And what's outrageous is that people would rather believe someone is lying instead of making an honest mistake. They simply haven't confirmed Liu Kang YET. Possibly because his role in the story is bigger than NRS is comfortable with revealing right now. I don't even think the red mist cloud is Liu Kang to be fair. At this point, I get the feeling that either Liu is a very big deal or he's not in the game at all.

I don't have a problem with people thinking he might be in the game, but I do have a problem with people not accepting other people's opinions and respecting them.

A lot of people have different opinions. Some of them are worse than others. Take that as you will. I respect that you've got your own opinion, but I can't take this particular opinion seriously. For what it's worth, I really like most of the stuff you post on here.

I am not set and stone on the character in that image being Takeda. I've only mentioned him as a possibility since he is one of two characters that we have seen with a headband. And since things that we're seeing in these trailers have been mentioned that are NOT FINALIZED, who knows what that pose will later turn into if it's going to get toyed by the developers. I'm taking a wild guess here and saying that it's this character, but I shouldn't have to have someone starting to disrespect me and mock me towards other users because I made a suggestion, something that you too have been doing a lot in here.

If Takeda poses like a Shaolin Monk at any point in the game, that would be a very serious first. Notice for example how Cassie Cage actually has some of Harley Quinn's moves. You can very much see them to the point that those moves are iconic to the character and now Cassie has them... which I admit is a little odd. If Takeda poses like Liu Kang, people are going to know right away that they recycled Liu Kang's animations for Takeda at some level. It's not going to be a good look, which is why I'm taking your opinion about Takeda very lightly.

I suggest you either put me on ignore, or knock it off with the immaturity and put your big boy pants up. Kay? Thanks.

Well I'm not putting you on ignore cause I actually like what you post. I just can't take the opinion that it's Takeda seriously. I mean... I don't think I owe you that.