Ladies and Gentlemen of TRMK... I bring you The Man, the myth, the Noob..... RIP!

[AMES32]

i do understand that he used the clones to bulid up meter so if kang got close enough to combo him that he could break out of it. its just like kaball and johnny cage with there projectiles.


and u seem to not understand that he has a combo move set for a reason the clones are there to help not to be ur main use. i use noob often most expect a clone spammer. so don't talk down to me i my be new here to trmk but im not new to fighting games i understand good and bad points of zoning but when thats all u do thats spamming just like combo spammers frame trapers and special spammers.

i show u respect so dont talk down to me and try and skip over my points to make urs valid. there is more to the fighters then just simple special spaming.

and i understand the use of the ex bar and how and when to use it. noob can move in and out of combos if u kno how to do it.

saying noobs clones are how he suppose to be played is like saying kung lao's spin spam is just a way to use him.

but yes noob is a fantastic spamer

 

[boX]

Throwing clones is how Noob zones! Why can you people not understand this basic concept? Do you even realise what you saw in the RIP vs Liu match-up? Did you establish that Liu really, really struggled to get in on Noob and when he did, Noob broke right out with the meter he built from keeping Liu out in the first place?

Yeah on the surface it looks like all rip knows is Noob clone; but in that particular match-up, that's all he needed because of how well it shuts down Liu. Also, in case you guys didn't know, Noobs moves have slow start-up; he often loses outright when he's at close range to his opponent's combos because of this. So with this in mind, why on God's Holy planet would RIP go in close for combos and risk losing when he can keep his opponents well away from him, gain meter and damage with clone-zoning instead?

Regarding the krazybone vs RIP match: You all saw that jade's invul move make Noobs clone redundant - in those cases, RIP had to adapt by getting close for damage, which he did and it worked. But, krazybone came out on top in the end so Good games to both.

you are way over 100% correct. it's sad that we are the only 2 people on this message board that understand how to play noob.

 

[AMES32]

Dude, you saw the video. You heard the commentators break down what was going on and why it was working and you read my post which offered additional explanation. How can you not understand how Noob is supposed to be played after all of this?

ok if noob is only suppose to use his clones then why does he have other moves combos tag moves other specials and mix up come on theres has to be more to him then just his clones.yes that is away to play but its not the only way to play him.

all i ask is that u show me the respect i show u guys.

this is how i play noob i start off getting my range mix up some clones then jump forward and back ward to make my opponent jump and tp slam then clone slide combo clone. theres more but i want to keep some guess work to my noob.

and i do this against all fighters not just easily dooped ones.

i'm i playing him wrong?

 

[Pakman]

ok if noob is only suppose to use his clones then why does he have other moves combos tag moves other specials and mix up come on theres has to be more to him then just his clones.yes that is away to play but its not the only way to play him...

You still don't get what I am saying. And I apologise if you think I'm disrespecting/insulting you in any way shape or form. Because I'm not.

<snip>i'm i playing him wrong?

By all means continue to play him like that. But keep in mind that using well spaced clones, instead, prevents you from getting hit in the first place. You're completely safe - barely any of the cast can touch you unless they have a teleport -, you most likely have the health lead and you are constantly building meter.

In short, this is the single most effective way of playing Noob (which makes it THE way you are supposed to play Noob). You barely even need to use any other tools because of how well clone-zoning completely shuts down half of the roster. Sure you can use his combos and whatnot, but, in all honesty, why if clone stops them from getting in on you in the first place?

Remember: High level play is not about flash or combos. It's about winning effectively and efficiently.

 

[Man Eater]

You still don't get what I am saying. And I apologise if you think I'm disrespecting/insulting you in any way shape or form. Because I'm not.


By all means continue to play him like that. But keep in mind that using well spaced clones, instead, prevents you from getting hit in the first place. You're completely safe - barely any of the cast can touch you unless they have a teleport -, you most likely have the health lead and you are constantly building meter.

In short, this is the single most effective way of playing Noob (which makes it THE way you are supposed to play Noob). You barely even need to use any other tools because of how well clone-zoning completely shuts down half of the roster. Sure you can use his combos and whatnot, but, in all honesty, why if clone stops them from getting in on you in the first place?

Remember: High level play is not about flash or combos. It's about winning effectively and efficiently.

I don't follow that... In that statement, you are saying nooby spammers are considered "higher levels of play"... I just don't agree with that... MAN EATER OUT

 

[Pakman]

I don't follow that... In that statement, you are saying nooby spammers are considered "higher levels of play"... I just don't agree with that... MAN EATER OUT

Zoning, not spamming.

Watch the matches again (and if needs be read my posts too!) and look how RIP re-positions his Noob every so often in between throwing clones out. By doing this, it makes it almost impossible for Hugo's Liu to jump over a clone, walk up to and full combo punish Noob during recovery frames of a noob-clone, which is what he could have done if RIP was spamming, but he didn't because RIP was ZONING him. The very few times Hugo did get through, RIP escaped with combo breaker, resetting the situation.

 

[Zentrix]

Hugo is by no means a bad liu kang player he did pretty well in the PDP Tournament.

 

[AMES32]

this is the single most effective way of playing Noob (which makes it THE way you are supposed to play Noob).

then if i use kung lao and spin spamm and then x-ray spin and then just continue to spin spamm is that good high level play its the most effective way to use lao.

no thats cheap and every one would say that it is. the character when used to its full potential is when there most effective. not when u do the easyer thing to win.

because i like the fight and the challenge so y just spamm thats no fun.

 

[boX]

then if i use kung lao and spin spamm and then x-ray spin and then just continue to spin spamm is that good high level play its the most effective way to use lao.

no thats cheap and every one would say that it is. the character when used to its full potential is when there most effective. not when u do the easyer thing to win.

for educational purposes

 

[AMES32]

i'm not saying hes broken i'm saying noob has more to offer then just his clone spamm it's not zoning when its the only thing u do.

 

[BOOMSTICK]

A Win, is a Win.

 

[Zentrix]

i'm not saying hes broken i'm saying noob has more to offer then just his clone spamm it's not zoning when its the only thing u do.

There is really no point in trying to find a reasonable answer from them. They will use excuses ("zoning not spamming") to justify not using kombos. These are the same people criticising liu kang players for kombo spamming B+3,1,2 kombo .

 

[theme34xcp]

Dude boX and Pakman, forget it. None of them seem to understand simple logic and reasoning. What needs to be said has been done so repeatedly. Why would a Noob player do something differently to risk him losing when something he already has done has been proven to work? Why try to fix something that isn't broken? Stop with this redundant bull crap.

*As for the Kung Lao comment: People can ***** and moan about Kung Lao being cheap because he constantly does his spin, but guess what, it will keep being used if it is in the game and it works. Nothing you say or believe can change that fact. IF IT WORKS, PEOPLE WILL USE IT. Common sense...

 

[AMES32]

There is really no point in trying to find a reasonable answer from them. They will use excuses ("zoning not spamming") to justify not using kombos. These are the same people criticising liu kang players for kombo spamming B+3,1,2 kombo .

yah its funny because i use more then just his clones and i do just fine.

 

[Critical-Limit]

I don't think they said noobs combos were useless I think they are just saying when mid range and farther why wouldn't you choose to make an obstacle course/free chip and or damage from hits. THEN play the close game once they get in. But... Because alot of noob saibots BnBs usually end with the opponent at mid range or farther it puts noob back on the situation to go back to his safer options. Shadow charge and upknee.

 

[Sky Valley]

there were many amazing players in the Video the OP posted, but RIP noob was far from good. and I dont know why people are still talking about it.

I suggest we should all focus on the other players in this tournament. like the final Kabal vs Kabal match, or the smoke vs reptile maybe? those were good too.

 

[navi24]

this is why i claim to be the best noob saibot player online every time i face a saibot player i laugh because i know exactly what hes going to do. i mix it up with noob so good i confuse my opponent, yeah noob is a zoner but i use him as a rush down character lol. this makes me wanna join a tournament so ppl can see the potential of noob. i use everything in noobs arsenal except for ghost ball i hardly use it cause i dont really need it unless i want to show off. i dont like to sweat myself but seeing this crap just makes me laugh they make noob look stupid. if u guys wanna see a great noob saibot add me on psn or challenge me when u see me online. dont worry i hate spamming ill kick ur ass in style haha.

 

[Pakman]

then if i use kung lao and spin spamm and then x-ray spin and then just continue to spin spamm is that good high level play its the most effective way to use lao...

Kung's spin is not the same as Noobs clone at all. Noobs clone keeps you well away from him. Kung has to be close to get his spin on you (making him more at risk to losing health). You block a well spaced noob clone and you simply aren't close enough to counter attack. Block a spin get a full combo on Kung. Spin has it's uses don't get me wrong, but your example doesn't work cus you still don't understand what I'm saying regarding noob.

There is really no point in trying to find a reasonable answer from them. They will use excuses ("zoning not spamming") to justify not using kombos. These are the same people criticising liu kang players for kombo spamming B+3,1,2 kombo .

Go back and read all 4 my posts on this thread again. I honestly cannot make it any simpler. Half of you guys get it (thank God!), but the other half aren't even reading my posts properly.

I don't think they said noobs combos were useless I think they are just saying when mid range and farther why wouldn't you choose to make an obstacle course/free chip and or damage from hits. THEN play the close game once they get in. But... Because alot of noob saibots BnBs usually end with the opponent at mid range or farther it puts noob back on the situation to go back to his safer options. Shadow charge and upknee.

This guy gets it.

 

[Asodimazze]

You guys still complaining about spam/zoning?
A win is a win, that's all that matters.

 

[AMES32]

no what i'm done with this conversation i do understand u were saying he had him were he wanted him and the clones were used both to gain meter and control the kang play because kang has better close combat because if kang was to get in close it would be game over for rip.

smart yes fun no.

is that what ur saying.

but if u had said it like limit i would have agreed with u so many posts ago see my thought was that u were saying noobs clones were his one and only option all the time.

see we had some miscommunication some were.