Injustice 2 Media and Discussion Thread!

Last_Starfighta said:
I'm a huge Catwoman fan but she feels like a wasted slot to me. She brings absolutely nothing to the story and her gameplay is pretty basic. I would rather have Hawkgirl or Vixen than her.
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Much like Liu Kang, Kitana and Kung Lao in MKX who also bring nothing to the story (apparently), it looks like Catwoman will also be staying in Injustice games.
She's been there since MKvsDC, and I think she'll continue being on the main roster.
 
So far, the only bit we've seen from the Story Mode was with Catwoman in the lead, so to say that she's not bringing anything to the story is quite an assumption. She might not have brought anything important yet, but she might do in Injustice 2.
 
Commander said:
Agreed on this part.
I like other parts of the DCU too, but IDGAF, it's not Batman's fault that he has more of the villains that I like.
Hell, I wish that Two-Face, Killer Croc and Penguin would also make the roster.
All of them were background fodder in the last game, and it would be nice to see them being playable in this game.
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I can see Killer Croc and even Penguin being playable. Hell honestly I wish they had went with Croc instead of bring back Bane. But Two-Face would be really stretching things. He's one of my favorites out of Batman's rogue gallery, but I don't think he would be top fighting game material. What would he have to offer gameplay wise that would make him stand out for other characters? He mainly uses firearms and we already have Deadshot as well as the possibility of other characters that use firearms but also have other abilities to provide.(IE Red Hood)
 
Well what you could do is have his ability to flip a coin.

Non-burnt side of the coin makes him a brawler with a command grab and able to do combos.

Burnt side of the coin gives him a grenade launcher and emphasizes a strict keep away style.


But Ia gree, Two-Face would be stretching things. Then again Scarecrow is in it for some odd reason
 
YungQ94 said:
But Ia gree, Two-Face would be stretching things. Then again Scarecrow is in it for some odd reason
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Gameplay wise, Scarecrow would have a lot to offer. He could use his fear gas which can effect your opponent in numerous ways. He could reverse their inputs. Transform into "fear" versions of whoever he is fighting as his trait, could have multiple status effects using different types of Fear Toxin, etc etc. There's also his scythe and needle glove. He could even use his fear gas to teleport somehow.

Penguin also isn't a character I'd really want for this game, but he could possibly have a unique moveset using his trick umbrellas. Two-Face however is nothing without guns and henchmen.
 
KCJ506 said:
Penguin also isn't a character I'd really want for this game, but he could possibly have a unique moveset using his trick umbrellas. Two-Face however is nothing without guns and henchmen.
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Technically, neither is Erron Black without his guns, grenades and floor spikes, if you put it that way, but he's a good character in MKX.


YungQ94 said:
Well what you could do is have his ability to flip a coin.

Non-burnt side of the coin makes him a brawler with a command grab and able to do combos.

Burnt side of the coin gives him a grenade launcher and emphasizes a strict keep away style.
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I had something similar in mind, but yeah, they can always come up with something for him.




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theincubuslord said:
So far, the only bit we've seen from the Story Mode was with Catwoman in the lead, so to say that she's not bringing anything to the story is quite an assumption. She might not have brought anything important yet, but she might do in Injustice 2.
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Yeah, but conversely, that's like seeing Kung Lao's intro with Raiden or other story snippets in the MKX trailers and assuming that he also had a significant role in MKX.
That's also quite an assumption.
Just because characters like Catwoman and Kung Lao are popular among MK and comic fans, doesn't automatically mean that they'll have a significant role.
 
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Commander said:
Technically, neither is Erron Black without his guns, grenades and floor spikes, if you put it that way, but he's a good character in MKX.
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My point overall was actually Two-Face seems like a pretty generic choice. I can understand liking him(as I mentioned earlier he's one of my favorite Batman foes). But from what I've seen, people that suggest him seem to do so for the sake of familiarity rather than what he would have to offer that other characters don't already do and could do better. Which really isn't the right approach to take for a game like Injustice. I've even seen people actually ask for Black Mask and Hush.

Another Batman foe that has actually more potential is Clayface.
 
I'm just saying for NRS to give characters that were previously background fodder a chance.
If it can't work because of technical reasons, be it what they may, that's fine.
It would just be nice to also see some other faces on the roster, which is why I'm happy that Swamp Thing, Cheetah and (rumored) Scarecrow could all be in.
Batman villain or not, it doesn't matter.
I just hate the whole "no more Batman villains" argument that people have (not you, just in general) and they don't provide other alternatives to be a better fit on the roster.
For as much as I don't care for every MK game also being the Trilogy roster, I also conversely could come up with a good 8 or 9 post-MK3 characters that would also be a good fit.
"Boo-hoo, too many Batman villains." Well, then suggest others that you would like to see instead (again, not you, just in general).

Clayface, as you suggested, would be great.
 
Honestly I can understand the disdain that some people have for the amount of Batman characters. It's likely that the reason Batman gets the most characters is because the Batman universe alone has more recognizable characters than pretty much any other major character in DC. Which is mainly because of all the exposure he gets. However the problem with this is if they expose the same characters over and over again, they'll be stuck having to use the same faces and none of their lesser faces can go anywhere. By pushing the Batman characters more, they sacrifice a chance for other characters to gain recognition.

Compare that to Marvel, who went out of their way to make names like Iron Man, Thor, etc popular among non comic readers. As well as Guardians who were complete unknowns to the average joe before their movie. Marvel still gives Spider-man and X-men plenty of spotlight(though to be fair, Spider-man is Sony and X-men is Fox, as far as movies go, but I digress), but they're pushing the Avengers characters way more heavily than DC has ever pushed Wonder Woman or Flash.

Albeit, Green Lantern probably would have been as popular as Batman or even Superman if the general consensus of the 2011 movie was that it wasn't a disappointment.
 
[MENTION=4462]KCJ506[/MENTION] hit the nail on the head. No one is saying these characters suck because they obviously don't. We grew up with these guys. We all love them. The last thing they need is more exposure. It's time for DC to give other characters a time to shine so we can fall in love with them. Case and point, I knew nothing about Black Adam before Injustice 1 came out. Now, he's my favorite DC villain.

Vixen could've used that spot. She needs it more than Catwoman.
 
ooook new list now, 38 slots on the site and this is it:

1) Superman
2) Batman
3) Wonder Woman
4) Flash
5) Aquaman
6) Green Arrow
7) Green Lantern
8) Black Canary
9) Blue Beetle
10) Supergirl
11) Robin
12) Cyborg
13) Firestorm
14) Doctor Fate

15) Atrocitus
16) Swamp Thing
17) Bane
18) Brainiac
19) Cheetah
20) Catwoman
21) Captain Cold
22) Joker
23) Harley Quinn
24) Poison Ivy
25) Scarecrow
26) Gorilla Grodd
27) Deadshot
28) Black Adam

that's the launch roster. Darkseid is number 29 and doesn't count as he is essentially DLC and can be unlocked through preorder or DLC later on. Mr. Freeze is a Captain Cold skin and there is no extra missing character, Cheetah is the final character. that, plus 9x DLC for a total of 38 characters
 
KCJ506 said:
Honestly I can understand the disdain that some people have for the amount of Batman characters. It's likely that the reason Batman gets the most characters is because the Batman universe alone has more recognizable characters than pretty much any other major character in DC. Which is mainly because of all the exposure he gets. However the problem with this is if they expose the same characters over and over again, they'll be stuck having to use the same faces and none of their lesser faces can go anywhere. By pushing the Batman characters more, they sacrifice a chance for other characters to gain recognition.

Compare that to Marvel, who went out of their way to make names like Iron Man, Thor, etc popular among non comic readers. As well as Guardians who were complete unknowns to the average joe before their movie. Marvel still gives Spider-man and X-men plenty of spotlight(though to be fair, Spider-man is Sony and X-men is Fox, as far as movies go, but I digress), but they're pushing the Avengers characters way more heavily than DC has ever pushed Wonder Woman or Flash.

Albeit, Green Lantern probably would have been as popular as Batman or even Superman if the general consensus of the 2011 movie was that it wasn't a disappointment.
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That's why I was saying to swap out some of the Batman characters for other characters of the same universe.
Not all Batman characters have to be in the game at the same time, imo, which is why I made the comparison with MKX.
Characters like Two-Face, Killer Croc and Penguin aren't over-exposed.
They were background fodder in the last Injustice game, and aside from Killer Croc the last time the other 2 were on the big screen was 2008 for Two-Face and 1992 for Penguin (unless you count the Gotham TV series).
While I agree that pushing the Batman characters more sacrifices chances for other characters, I don't see why some can't be swapped out for others.
That's my point.

I agree that Marvel has been better at putting the characters on screen, but despite Suicide Squad not doing well it did put Killer Croc and Deadshot in the minds of people, who previously before that didn't have much exposure outside of comics.
As for Wonder Woman and Flash, both are getting their own movies and are in the upcoming Justice League movie along with Cyborg, despite how much faith I have in the actual film.
Regardless, those characters are getting more spotlight.

Green Lantern will never be as popular as Batman and Superman, even if the opposite had happened and it was the best DC movie to ever come out.
That's like saying that Deadpool is more famous than Wolverine because his movie was better.
Despite Deadpool being an awesome movie and being true to the character, he'll never out-do characters like Wolverine or Spider-Man when it comes to popularity.
That's like saying that _____________ character is more popular than Scorpion and Sub-Zero (the poster-boys) in MK.
 
If the game was Batman characters only... I'd be fine with it. XD
As long Nightwing is in. I'm kinda sad that his chances of being in I2 is rather low, if they are focusing on JUST the Regime Earth characters, and not have anyone from Prime Earth be in it this time around...
 
Commander said:
That's why I was saying to swap out some of the Batman characters for other characters of the same universe.
Not all Batman characters have to be in the game at the same time, imo, which is why I made the comparison with MKX.
Characters like Two-Face, Killer Croc and Penguin aren't over-exposed.
They were background fodder in the last Injustice game, and aside from Killer Croc the last time the other 2 were on the big screen was 2008 for Two-Face and 1992 for Penguin (unless you count the Gotham TV series).
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I'm not talking about just big screen appearances. I'm talking about TV shows and other games as well. All three of those characters were in the Arkham games as well as the various Batman cartoons that came after Batman TAS. Though Two-Face never appeared in The Batman(2004)




Green Lantern will never be as popular as Batman and Superman, even if the opposite had happened and it was the best DC movie to ever come out.
That's like saying that Deadpool is more famous than Wolverine because his movie was better.
Despite Deadpool being an awesome movie and being true to the character, he'll never out-do characters like Wolverine or Spider-Man when it comes to popularity.
That's like saying that _____________ character is more popular than Scorpion and Sub-Zero (the poster-boys) in MK.
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That's really not the point I was trying to make there. Green Lantern had the opportunity to be DC's Iron Man. And by that I mean them taking a character that most casual movie goers aren't familiar with and giving him a movie that was originally intended to start off the DCEU. However that failed since the movie wasn't received.

And it was a possibility that GL could have been as popular as Batman and Superman if his movie had done well. In the 90s and early to mid 00s, the two main Marvel properties people knew or cared about were Spider-man and X-men. Now Iron Man's pretty much up there with them in popularity. Hell before his movie, the only two films based off a Marvel comic that weren't Spider-man or X-men and had mostly positive reviews were the first two Blade films.
 
KCJ506 said:
That's really not the point I was trying to make there. Green Lantern had the opportunity to be DC's Iron Man. And by that I mean them taking a character that most casual movie goers aren't familiar with and giving him a movie that was originally intended to start off the DCEU. However that failed since the movie wasn't received.

And it was a possibility that GL could have been as popular as Batman and Superman if his movie had done well. In the 90s and early to mid 00s, the two main Marvel properties people knew or cared about were Spider-man and X-men. Now Iron Man's pretty much up there with them in popularity. Hell before his movie, the only two films based off a Marvel comic that weren't Spider-man or X-men and had mostly positive reviews were the first two Blade films.
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I got your point and I understood it understood perfectly.
My point was that even if the movie was as good as the first Iron Man, Green Lantern will never be more famous than the 2 DC posterboys (Batman and Superman).
Not happening.

No, again, even if the movie was the best DC movie ever made, he will never surpass Superman and Batman in popularity.
No, he's not.
Green Lantern is far less popular than Batman and Superman, regardless of if the 2011 film was a fantastic movie.
Superman and Batman have had DECADES and generations of being the DC posterboys and being the 2 most famous characters of the DC universe.
No, he's not.
Even to this day, Spider-Man is FAR more famous than Iron Man.
Iron Man is very famous, but to say that he's as famous than Spider-Man is completely wrong.
Spider-Man is the posterboy for Marvel, since the 1962.
That's over 5 decades of being on top vs 2 decades of popularity with Iron Man.
 
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I didn't say GL would ever surpass popularity than Batman and Superman. I said he could probably have been as(key words) popular as them. Two different things. And it really isn't wrong to say that Iron Man is as famous Spider-man nowadays considering he's the poster boy of the MCU. Regardless of the decades Spidey popularity Spidey had.


But I don't wanna get into an endless argument so I'm gonna end this right here. It's really not that serious to have to resort to using facepalm pics.
 
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Green Lantern has potential. I love him in the animated series. And he was alright in the first Injustice. The movie... not so much.

Overall, Green Lantern is alright. But that's all.
 
It's a shame that the GL cartoon got canned due to poor toy sales. Which was the result from the poor reception the movie got.
 
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