How do you think the revenants will be revived in MK11?

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Okay so in MKX most of the dead were not revived, they stayed as evil, brainwashed undead thugs for the entire game and Liutana now runs the show in hell.

Obviously they will be in MK11, playing a huge part. I think the first part of the story might revolve around the new heroes trying to break the spell that bewitched them in the first place and by the end most if not all of them will be back to normal. But it would be impossible with Quan Chi now dead. So how do you think Cassie & co. will pull it off?

My thoughts:

a). Jade will return, powered by the woman from her MK9 ending. It's revealed that Jade was freed from Quan Chi by the mysterious goddess during the early phase of the NRW and has been in hiding ever since. Now that she's witnessed her best friend becoming the Queen of Hell, the complete opposite of who she really is, Jade has made it her mission to free her fallen comrades and restore them to life using her newfound powers.

b.) Takahashi Takeda's telepathic powers increase after he inherits Sento from his father. During an invasion on Outworld, Takeda uses his powers to free the only person whose connection to the spirit world can undo dark magic- Nightwolf. Together Takeda and Nightwolf set out on a mission to free the revenants and restore them to normal.

Or do you all think they should stay dead in MK11 as well or get killed off as villains?
 
Well, if the game really is (in part) about Edenia, then there'll probably be some secret, lost Fountain of Jinsei that is capable of restoring people to life. They wouldn't make Kitana queen of Edenia without resurrecting her, that would just be bizarre.
 
I actually really like how they've made the main cast the villains.

I dislike how they made them mind controlled hellspawn, but meh, can't win them all.


I feel like MK has a lot of missed opportunity due to NRS having a bunch of characters who almost never get along but still always fall under "Good" and "Evil". Even in this game, Scorpion is definitely the "evil" ninja compared to Sub Zero.

When do we see Jax having a falling out with Sonya? Johnny making a deal with the devil to get intel from Kano, Or Kano realizing he needs the help of Sonya for matter X Y or Z? I feel like these stories would be more interesting than "Oh hey, Outworld/Neatherrealm Bad, Earthworld Good".
 
I don't think they will. At the least not Liu Kang and Kitana. Now they are assuming the role of an alliance with Raiden.

If Kitana has any roots on her mind, poor Kotal Kahn.
 
I actually like kitana as a bad guy. To me she just seems to goody two shoes as a good guy and I think she should be a bad guy from here on out. Liu kang didn't get that much development in this game but from what I could tell kitana likes being bad and I like that.

Also, I don't care what side smoke aligns with. He should just keep the name enenra. It's just cooler. I like your ideas with jade though. That seems solid. If the variations return they'd have to come up with something new for kitana but hey I like that idea so whatever.
 
With Shinnok and Quan Chi out of the picture, I was hoping that the revenants would still have a desire for evil, but stay of free will, as implied by
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KL's ending.

I was hoping that they'd stay dead for good, but I feel like they'll revive in the next game.
 
I hope that the dead / revenants in MKX stay dead for MK11, that includes those that died in MKX too (Mileena, Baraka, Shinnok, Sektor and Cyrax).
If they didn't survive the events of the end of MK9 and MKX, then I hope that they're absent for 1 or 2 more games.
It's about time we got some new blood injected into this series, and so far Kotal Kahn, D'Vorah, Ferra / Torr, Erron Black, Cassie Cage, Takeda, Kung Jin and Jacqui feel great in their roles.
I hope that there are an additional 4 more new characters in MK11, along with the 8 introduced in MKX.
 
Without Quan Chi, they can't be revived at all. It was all due his will.

The right is that they will stay undead, specially Kitana and Liu Kang as rulers of the Netherrealm.

Look, when many died and were revived, they gave us an excuse to revive them.

A good excuse. So good that we now know how Kuai Liang came back as human.

But now, they said with all words, that without Quan Chi, they can't be saved.

I think they will and they should remain as undead. Villains or not, but undead. Unless any Elder Gods resolve to revive them for a reason.

Which I doubt.
 
Yup.
How do you make someone give up info? Hit them in the family jewels. :laugh:
I agree, though, [MENTION=18134]Yellow Ledbetter[/MENTION].
Seems like those revenants will have to be saved some other way in MK11, now that Liu Kang and his evil queen Kitana rule the NetherRealm.
 
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Commander said:
I hope that the dead / revenants in MKX stay dead for MK11, that includes those that died in MKX too (Mileena, Baraka, Shinnok, Sektor and Cyrax).
If they didn't survive the events of the end of MK9 and MKX, then I hope that they're absent for 1 or 2 more games.
It's about time we got some new blood injected into this series, and so far Kotal Kahn, D'Vorah, Ferra / Torr, Erron Black, Cassie Cage, Takeda, Kung Jin and Jacqui feel great in their roles.
I hope that there are an additional 4 more new characters in MK11, along with the 8 introduced in MKX.
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I don't know about that. That is a lot of absent characters that made MK what it is today. I think many like myself will miss the classic crew of characters. You could make a MK full of new characters but I don't think it would feel like an MK without its iconic characters.
 
Belkor said:
I don't know about that. That is a lot of absent characters that made MK what it is today. I think many like myself will miss the classic crew of characters. You could make a MK full of new characters but I don't think it would feel like an MK without its iconic characters.
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Really?
In MKII, 5 of the 12 characters on the roster were brand new.
In MK3, 7 of the 15 characters (almost half of the roster) were brand new.
In MK4, again, 7 of the 15 characters (almost half of the roster) were brand new.

Did MK not feel like MK to you, as well, when all of those new characters first debuted in their perspective MK sequels?
Give me a break.

Who ever said an MK full of new characters?
Last I checked, in MKX story mode, 15 of the 18 "klassic" characters on the MKX roster survived.
How much more do you need than that?
Going by the past history of MKII, MK3 and MK3 having almost half of the characters being new, it wouldn't hurt the series, IMO.
Were you THIS close-minded when MKII, MK3 and MK4 came out?
 
Id like to point out that Shinnok is technically still alive. That was the "fate worse than death". Hes alive but hes just a head at this point. And even without Quan Chi, I can easily see the revenants still coming back to life
 
Commander said:
Really?
In MKII, 5 of the 12 characters on the roster were brand new.
In MK3, 7 of the 15 characters (almost half of the roster) were brand new.
In MK4, again, 7 of the 15 characters (almost half of the roster) were brand new.

Did MK not feel like MK to you, as well, when all of those new characters first debuted in their perspective MK sequels?
Give me a break.

Who ever said an MK full of new characters?
Last I checked, in MKX story mode, 15 of the 18 "klassic" characters on the MKX roster survived.
How much more do you need than that?
Going by the past history of MKII, MK3 and MK3 having almost half of the characters being new, it wouldn't hurt the series, IMO.
Were you THIS close-minded when MKII, MK3 and MK4 came out?
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Closed minded? Really with the petty insults? The early MKs built the characters up and not the other way around. Moreover, the earlier MKs still retained most of the iconic characters. Now that the characters are fully developed, you want to remove the characters from an MK series for no apparent reason? There is such a thing as retaining current characters in some way in addition to adding new characters.
 
How you can insinuate a title "built up" characters by means of one two or three screen biography you only saw after eating the tower is beyond me.

In comparison to MKX, MK1-3 had hardly any build up of characters. Nostalgia clouds, I guess.
 
Commander said:
I hope that the dead / revenants in MKX stay dead for MK11, that includes those that died in MKX too (Mileena, Baraka, Shinnok, Sektor and Cyrax).
If they didn't survive the events of the end of MK9 and MKX, then I hope that they're absent for 1 or 2 more games.
It's about time we got some new blood injected into this series, and so far Kotal Kahn, D'Vorah, Ferra / Torr, Erron Black, Cassie Cage, Takeda, Kung Jin and Jacqui feel great in their roles.
I hope that there are an additional 4 more new characters in MK11, along with the 8 introduced in MKX.
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Shinnok didn't die, elder gods can't die, that's the reason why they imprisoned him in the netherealm in the first place.
 
Belkor said:
Closed minded? Really with the petty insults? The early MKs built the characters up and not the other way around. Moreover, the earlier MKs still retained most of the iconic characters. Now that the characters are fully developed, you want to remove the characters from an MK series for no apparent reason? There is such a thing as retaining current characters in some way in addition to adding new characters.
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A few bio cards in the MK1, II and 3 games that were riddled with plot-holes is hardly considered character "build up," in my book.
What?
The early MK's did NOT retain most of the iconic characters, at least not MK3 and MK4.
Kitana, Mileena, Baraka, Raiden, Johnny Cage, Scorpion and Reptile were all missing from MK3, and it was still a great game.
(And yes, I know that some of those missing were due to the Pesina brothers being fired, but my point still stands that those games were great even without those characters.)
Kitana, Mileena, Baraka, Sheeva, Ermac, Rain, Sindel, Cyrax, Sektor, Kano, Kabal, Shang Tsung, Kung Lao, Stryker, Smoke and Nightwolf were all missing from MK4, and it was also still a great game.

Also, when did I say anything about removing them for no apparent reason?
Stop putting words in my mouth.
I simply said that some of them could sit out for a little while.
Sonya, Johnny, Jax and Kung Lao can sit out for a little while in MK11 and MK12 and their relatives can take over for a while.
The current MKX roster has 17 Klassic characters and 8 new characters.
3 of those klassics died in MKX (Mileena, Quan Chi and Shinnok), and now there are 14 klassic characters left for the next game.
How is 14 klassics coming back in MK11, while opening up 3 to 4 spots for new characters a bad thing?
The problem is that people are too hung up on nostalgia to let the series progress.

RedZoneD25 said:
How you can insinuate a title "built up" characters by means of one two or three screen biography you only saw after eating the tower is beyond me.

In comparison to MKX, MK1-3 had hardly any build up of characters. Nostalgia clouds, I guess.
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Exactly.
Thank you.

MK9 and MKX had the most character build up that the MK series has ever seen, between both the klassic and NEW MKX characters.
- Sub-Zero and Scorpion FINALY being able to patch things up.
- Johnny FINALLY being developed as more of a leader, while still retaining some of his humor.
- Liu Kang, Kitana, Kabal, Smoke, Nightwolf and the other dead MK9 warriors being part of Quan Chi's army.
- Kotal Kahn having Mileena killed by D'Vorah and taking the Outworld throne.
- Mileena having more to her character than just being scantily clad with a slutty persona who's trying to copy Kitana, and now had a commanding role in MKX
- Reptile and Ermac choosing who they will be loyal to and finally having a say so in what they choose to do.
- Kung Jin being hesitant about joining the Shaolin, due to them not accepting him for who he is.
- Takeda and his issues with Kenshi being a bad father.
- Shinnok FINALLY being made into a final boss that can be taken seriously and doesn't look like a horror movie clown gone wrong.

These are just a FEW examples of some of the excellent character "build ups" in MKX, but yeah, I guess you're right.
Nostalgia does cloud judgement.


Jin Kazama said:
Shinnok didn't die, elder gods can't die, that's the reason why they imprisoned him in the netherealm in the first place.
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Shinnok was "fallen" elder god, meaning that he used to be an elder god.
Thus, he IS able to get killed.
Shinnok did die in MKX, as is proof when Raiden dropped his severed head on the ground, at the end of MKX.
Raiden telling Liu Kang and Kitana that "there are fates worse than death" sounded more like a warning, that if they should dare as new rulers of the NetherRealm to do what Shinnok tried to do, that he has something planned for them that will be much worse than death..
 
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I hope they're not. I want everyone who is dead to stay dead. MK needs some balls; progress with the story.
 
[MENTION=5028]Commander[/MENTION] correct me if i'm wrong but didn't Raiden himself openly stated Shinnok was impossible to kill after dropping his severed head in front of Liu and Kitana?
 
All of that complaining about having good characters lol..little did you guys know that some of the "good" characters where actually evil.


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