FlawlessVictor
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TaBB3rnackle92
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Uh oh.. I can see it happening right now kids.
LEt's take this to the debate room :laugh:
I was really depressed in high school until I went to college. The college years were the best times of my life regardless how much student debt I am in today. If you go to a big university, you will have much more fun than going to a smaller school. There are many different types of people at larger universities. My advice to focus on school and get yourself into a large university in Canada or try to go to a school in the USA. Universities in America are much better for socializing and meeting new people compared to the ones in Canada in my opinion (and a Canadian friend of mine). You speak english so you should have no problem coming to this country for education. You will not regret it at all.
Shirayuki Mizore
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I've attempted suicide twice. Just try and pick out the bright things in life. I hang out with my friends A LOT more now and ignore my father who caused the depression. I just answer to him "yes" or "no" now. I love it :]
Dude....I'm an expert on depression. Been there, done that. I know a ton of strategies for getting over depression as an adult, but it's a little more challenging when you are stuck in your parents' house and don't have the freedom to do whatever you want.
Here's the thing: I remember my older sister used to tell me this all the time, and I remember how hard it was to believe at the time, but now I know it is so true. HIGH SCHOOL IS SHORT! I know it seems like a really long time now, but 3 years is really nothing. You'll be outta there soon. Really, you will. There is absolutely no reason to not completely be yourself and do whatever you want to do, because you know what? Three years from now, you will never see any of those people ever again unless you want to! And you know what's really amazing? Someday, you may go to your 10 or 20 year high school reunion, and you will be completely amazed by who you get along with then. People in high school are jerks, it's true. But that's because it's a developmental time, and almost everyone grows up to be a cool person. So don't worry about what the kids think now, it will definitely change over time. For sure, bet on it!
That's little consolation now, because you're stuck there for 3 more years. So, what do you do? Here's what I recommend: find a friend. You don't have to be the most popular kid in school, you don't have to have everyone like you. The most important thing to do is find one or two people that you really connect with. I think it's much more beneficial for depression to have one or two people that you can really truly count on than a bunch of casual friends that you don't really know all that well. Take the time to cultivate a deep relationship with someone. It doesn't have to be girl, it can be a guy or a girl. Also try to find someone who is outgoing and fun. If you find another depressed person, you'll just be depressed together. My best friend to this day, I met my freshman year in high school. I heard him say something funny, and I decided I wanted to be friends with him. He wasn't the most popular person in school, and neither was I, but I'll bet you that we had way more fun just being idiots and doing stupid stuff than the football players who went to all the cool parties and dated the hot chicks.
It's also important to find things you can do on your own. I loved movies, and my parents caved and got HBO and Showtime, so I watched tons of movies. I also got seriously into music. Even though I can't play music, I became a huge fan of music, especially heavy metal. I still have a bunch of MTV Headbangers Ball episodes on VHS....LOL! Probably because I was a little depressed, heavy metal music was a great outlet for the anger I had but didn't really know how to express.
There are people out there that will relate to you. If you can't find them at school, you can look elsewhere. I got a part time job at a mini-golf course and arcade and ended up having a blast with my co-workers. You can also go online and look at meetup.com and see if there are any meet ups you are interested in (though I'm not sure if you are old enough for that).
And you know what else I learned in life? You know all those people out there who seem so confident? Well, here's a great big secret....nobody is confident! People are naturally self doubting and awkward. The people who seem confident are the ones who have figured out how to FAKE IT! If you just start playing a character who is confident, you will be. Just fake it. It works! When I would go to clubs trying to meet girls, I felt awkward and weird. So you know what I did? I imagined I was a rich owner of the club, and I was just there to check it out and make sure everybody was doing their jobs and the customers were all having a good time. It worked. I exuded total confidence and I had no trouble talking to whoever I wanted....and I'm not even very good looking!
Anyway, I've rambled enough, what you have to do is get out of your head, and go out into the world!!!! The thing to remember is the world doesn't change. It hasn't gotten horrible or bad, it's the same old world it always has been and always will be. It's your perspective! It's all about how you see the world. So if you get out there and see what an awesome place it really is, you'll start to feel better. Physical activity also really helps. You can lift weights, play raquetball.....or you can just pump up some music and jump around your room like a freaking maniac. It doesn't matter, just get active.
And remember, since you have to work to be happy and have fun, you are going to turn into an amazing and interesting adult. The people who go out there and don't have to work for it, the people who are just naturally popular....they end up working in insurance or finance and having completely boring and predictable lives. You will have an adventurous and interesting life because you have to seek happiness. I will say one final thing: no matter what, DO WELL IN SCHOOL! Because no matter how much you succeed in defeating depression, if you are a poor person who can't go to college and is stuck living with your parents, you will definitely be depressed because your life will actually be depressing. At all costs, make sure you can go to university!
Hope that helps.
And this is my own personal stance on suicide: killing yourself is ALWAYS an option. So why bother doing it until you have tried every possible other thing to improve your life? The option to kill yourself isn't going to go away. You can always do it later if you try absolutely everything and fail at it.
But guess what? If you try absolutely everything, you will succeed at something and you won't want to do it anymore! So don't try suicide because I'm positive that you haven't tried everything yet!
Here's the thing: I remember my older sister used to tell me this all the time, and I remember how hard it was to believe at the time, but now I know it is so true. HIGH SCHOOL IS SHORT! I know it seems like a really long time now, but 3 years is really nothing. You'll be outta there soon. Really, you will. There is absolutely no reason to not completely be yourself and do whatever you want to do, because you know what? Three years from now, you will never see any of those people ever again unless you want to! And you know what's really amazing? Someday, you may go to your 10 or 20 year high school reunion, and you will be completely amazed by who you get along with then. People in high school are jerks, it's true. But that's because it's a developmental time, and almost everyone grows up to be a cool person. So don't worry about what the kids think now, it will definitely change over time. For sure, bet on it!
That's little consolation now, because you're stuck there for 3 more years. So, what do you do? Here's what I recommend: find a friend. You don't have to be the most popular kid in school, you don't have to have everyone like you. The most important thing to do is find one or two people that you really connect with. I think it's much more beneficial for depression to have one or two people that you can really truly count on than a bunch of casual friends that you don't really know all that well. Take the time to cultivate a deep relationship with someone. It doesn't have to be girl, it can be a guy or a girl. Also try to find someone who is outgoing and fun. If you find another depressed person, you'll just be depressed together. My best friend to this day, I met my freshman year in high school. I heard him say something funny, and I decided I wanted to be friends with him. He wasn't the most popular person in school, and neither was I, but I'll bet you that we had way more fun just being idiots and doing stupid stuff than the football players who went to all the cool parties and dated the hot chicks.
It's also important to find things you can do on your own. I loved movies, and my parents caved and got HBO and Showtime, so I watched tons of movies. I also got seriously into music. Even though I can't play music, I became a huge fan of music, especially heavy metal. I still have a bunch of MTV Headbangers Ball episodes on VHS....LOL! Probably because I was a little depressed, heavy metal music was a great outlet for the anger I had but didn't really know how to express.
There are people out there that will relate to you. If you can't find them at school, you can look elsewhere. I got a part time job at a mini-golf course and arcade and ended up having a blast with my co-workers. You can also go online and look at meetup.com and see if there are any meet ups you are interested in (though I'm not sure if you are old enough for that).
And you know what else I learned in life? You know all those people out there who seem so confident? Well, here's a great big secret....nobody is confident! People are naturally self doubting and awkward. The people who seem confident are the ones who have figured out how to FAKE IT! If you just start playing a character who is confident, you will be. Just fake it. It works! When I would go to clubs trying to meet girls, I felt awkward and weird. So you know what I did? I imagined I was a rich owner of the club, and I was just there to check it out and make sure everybody was doing their jobs and the customers were all having a good time. It worked. I exuded total confidence and I had no trouble talking to whoever I wanted....and I'm not even very good looking!
Anyway, I've rambled enough, what you have to do is get out of your head, and go out into the world!!!! The thing to remember is the world doesn't change. It hasn't gotten horrible or bad, it's the same old world it always has been and always will be. It's your perspective! It's all about how you see the world. So if you get out there and see what an awesome place it really is, you'll start to feel better. Physical activity also really helps. You can lift weights, play raquetball.....or you can just pump up some music and jump around your room like a freaking maniac. It doesn't matter, just get active.
And remember, since you have to work to be happy and have fun, you are going to turn into an amazing and interesting adult. The people who go out there and don't have to work for it, the people who are just naturally popular....they end up working in insurance or finance and having completely boring and predictable lives. You will have an adventurous and interesting life because you have to seek happiness. I will say one final thing: no matter what, DO WELL IN SCHOOL! Because no matter how much you succeed in defeating depression, if you are a poor person who can't go to college and is stuck living with your parents, you will definitely be depressed because your life will actually be depressing. At all costs, make sure you can go to university!
Hope that helps.
And this is my own personal stance on suicide: killing yourself is ALWAYS an option. So why bother doing it until you have tried every possible other thing to improve your life? The option to kill yourself isn't going to go away. You can always do it later if you try absolutely everything and fail at it.
But guess what? If you try absolutely everything, you will succeed at something and you won't want to do it anymore! So don't try suicide because I'm positive that you haven't tried everything yet!
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Jade
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Everyone gets different levels of depression, it's a part of life. Some are just far more into it than others and can't easily dig themselves out of the feelings.
Just think, if you believe your life is bad, there will always be someone out there who is FAR worse off.....
It is easier to answer when the scenario is presented, though, but, anyways, just think: what is really the worst thing about your life right now and what can you do to change it? There is an answer for everything, you just have to figure it out, which may take some time.
One of the easiest things to do is have someone tell you something and you believe it. Example, if someone continuously tells you that you are worthless, you start to believe that you really are. Some people are the opposite and use that to make themselves stronger and follow their dreams that others said they couldn't. Unfortunately, a lot of people drown in the negativity.
Just think, if you believe your life is bad, there will always be someone out there who is FAR worse off.....
It is easier to answer when the scenario is presented, though, but, anyways, just think: what is really the worst thing about your life right now and what can you do to change it? There is an answer for everything, you just have to figure it out, which may take some time.
One of the easiest things to do is have someone tell you something and you believe it. Example, if someone continuously tells you that you are worthless, you start to believe that you really are. Some people are the opposite and use that to make themselves stronger and follow their dreams that others said they couldn't. Unfortunately, a lot of people drown in the negativity.
Critical-Limit
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^^^
That works a lot for me.
anytime I see this
I feel like I dont' have the right to feel depressed.
I know sometimes depression is a illness, but you should look into your own psychology as well.
That works a lot for me.
anytime I see this
I feel like I dont' have the right to feel depressed.
I know sometimes depression is a illness, but you should look into your own psychology as well.
Switchblade922
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Eh. Everyone gets depressed. Some people get over it, some people don't. And the people who don't get over it can't help it.
But Critical-Limit has an excellent point. Things could always be worse. I've learned to appreciate the good things around me and what good things may come.
But Critical-Limit has an excellent point. Things could always be worse. I've learned to appreciate the good things around me and what good things may come.
THEundying27
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Lots and lots of miserable people up in here.
Aldo Moreno
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I've been thru depression a few years ago. It was for A ****ING WHORE I wasted my life on for eight months. It was back in middle school. I was so in love with her. She was my first love and the only girl I actually did love in my life. It was back in middle school. She broke up with me for another and I keep blowing up her phone trying to get back with her. You know that usual shit. Before, I was already seeing a counsler since I was on probation for six months for kicked out of school. I got off probation after a week we broke up. I started going to him more and he made a doctor's appointment for me and he told the doctor I was going thru depression. I started to take medicene for it. The only thing I did all day and night is trying to contact her, cry, depress myself with music, and talk to my best friend Karla on the phone. I barely ate and I stood in my room all day. School started and I was happy, till she came back. I was full of so much anger. I would punch the lockers everytime we would fight. I started to hang out with this kid who also ruined my life. He got me selling drugs and doing drugs. It made me feel better. Yet, it ruined me always. I was mad so much one day, I wrote a poem that was involing killing her and a lot of crazy shit. I got locked up for it. I was put on probation AGAIN! I was kicked out of my school AGAIN as well. Ever since that day, I stopped writing poems because I was too scared to write (I started to write again in the last year and my skills are coming back, btw). I was still wasn't over her so I kept hanging out with that kid. Two months later, we were driving around. We had drugs and we were pulled over. I got locked up for it and not him. AND NOW BECAUSE OF ALL THAT SHIT, I'M STILL ON PROBATION NOW AND WON'T GET OFF TILL I'M 18! I spent my ****ing 15th birthday in juvie. Why? Because of ****ing depression over a whore! Well, about two months later, my depression was over and everything got better. The only concerned I have now is anger.
ADVICE TO EVERYONE IF THEY GET A GIRL/BOY, if you wanna get serious serious SERIOUS, make sure it's the right person and don't be fool'd like I was.
She fool'd me because she was older than me and older people are much wiser about these things :S. I hate that I was young and a dumbass! Still am but **** I was much worse back then. I wish I would of known better. I WAS 13 AND SHE WAS 15. Althought, from that, I do know what love is. I felt it only once in my life.
ADVICE TO EVERYONE IF THEY GET A GIRL/BOY, if you wanna get serious serious SERIOUS, make sure it's the right person and don't be fool'd like I was.
She fool'd me because she was older than me and older people are much wiser about these things :S. I hate that I was young and a dumbass! Still am but **** I was much worse back then. I wish I would of known better. I WAS 13 AND SHE WAS 15. Althought, from that, I do know what love is. I felt it only once in my life.
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Sky Valley
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dont really agree with this mindset. Sure there are others who are suffering far worse than you. But that doesnt mean you should reject any thoughts that there might be a problem with yourself just because there are other things going on you have no controll of. Maybe if you were a missionary, but just sulking about other world problems, and still feeling guilty about being depressed doesn't get you anywhere, or the people you feel bad for.^^^
That works a lot for me.
anytime I see this
I feel like I dont' have the right to feel depressed.
Critical-Limit
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I didn't say reject any problems. I'm just saying don't cry about it, and Fix it. In a subtle way.
It's not like I'm saying "Oh look I'm lonely" Well there are people out there who are "lonely" and starving. Atleast I got food.
No. always better your situation. No where in my post did I say settle for your current problems.
^^^ this is me telling you to look into your own psychology, meaning to make yourself feel better you have to WORK at it.
If I feel lonely. Go out and socialize or join some club.
If I always feel insecure because I'm low on money... actively try to find more jobs/better jobs.
having a positive attitude while something bad happening is not a bad thing. When I got to 2 vending machines at my job that wouldn't relock. So I had to add about an hour onto my day for both just to empty it and call it in to be fixed. Most people would let that ruin their whole day. I make a joke out of it. and realize i could be raining/a bear could be attacking me ect ect.
btw I make commission so that hour was FREE labor.
Here is an example my brother gave me on the subject:
Friend A gets pissed off because his dad didn't buy him a car, his other friends got cars but he has to work for his own.
My brother plus Friend B tell him "you're lucky to even have a dad who buys you guns/iphone/alienware ect ect. You're better off working for everything for yourself anyways. Me and friend B don't even have dads, appreciate what you got"
Point is Friend A should've just sucked up, realized hes of a very small majority where parents buy them their car for them. And work to solve his carless problem by working. Not only will he get the car, but he will feel good because he WORKED for it. Nothing more satisfying than seeing your work turn into something.
when I see a clean house because someone else cleaned my house, It just means "oh it's clean"
when I clean the house and see the result, It feels so much better.
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squirrelpion
Uncle Juandice
i quit taking zoloft in highschool after i couldn't sleep for 3 days and my bathroom door had a face on it kind of like one of the trees from the living forrest telling me to mow the lawn at 3 am. hahaha true story.
Critical-Limit
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Is that a sleep deprivation effect or a zoloft direct effect?
Because I also challenged myself once and tried really hard to stay awake as long as possible, and I started seeing crazy stuff.
Sky Valley
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here's a problem I have noticed, and it's been bothering me for a long time. People dont want to help others fight their depression anymore it seems. Instead of helping those crying out for help in risk of falling into a deeper depression, many people use their past struggles for selfish purposes. Meaning instead of using their harships as examples to help others, they use it as a form of rep. A pissing contest to prove who has had a harder life. Finding any possible way to make another person and their problems seem weak and inferior compared to them and what they have been through. So in the end, no one is better.
I mention this because I have witnessed it all. Not just directed at me, but others I have known throughout my life. And it's really sad that people just accept it and are so accustomed to this. Does anyone else understand where I am getting at?
I mention this because I have witnessed it all. Not just directed at me, but others I have known throughout my life. And it's really sad that people just accept it and are so accustomed to this. Does anyone else understand where I am getting at?
Critical-Limit
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I think I got an example of what you are saying.
My friend that came from afghanistan out of the US army. For the first 3 years he was back... all he did was put down any problems I had. I complained about work one time because I was the only one working. on the spread sheet I was building 7-8 bulk an hour. Everyone else was averaging .5-2 an hour. I put alot of sweat ect into work. So I was complaining about my co-workers essentially.
he stops me mid complaining... Then proceeds to say
"I'm willing to bet your job isn't even hard, I bet I could go there and it would be a breeze. no offense but nothing compares to the army"
So I can never EVER complain to him because... I never experienced taliban guys shooting at me. that doesn't mean what my co-workers are doing is right or that I should accept it just cuz my situation is better than his was when he was driving through mine fields.
close to what you're saying?
He compared his hardships to mine anytime I tried to get a point accross about frustrations in my life.