SPOILER ALERT:Mortal Kombat X DIGITAL COMIC DISCUSSION

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Why do people keep saying this confirms or deconfirms havik as the big bad? this does neither of them.

No idea. I feel that Havik's original inclusion in the comic already deconfirmed him, but this issue doesn't do anything for or against him. If you already thought he was out, there's nothing here to suggest that he's in, and vice versa.
 
Forrest Fox was regenerating during his fight with Scorpion. This was when he was possessed by the blood demon.

Now Goro has been brutally mutilated and knowing how Gorbak feels about this, it might make sense for Havik to use blood magic to regenerate Goro's body. Keep in mind, this makes Goro possibly subservient to Havik's plans for a while.
 
True, it doesn confirm him being that, however, it DOES confirm that he is...

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... the Blood Demon.

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Wait I thought that summary was saying he was trying to become the blood demon still,

Now I'm confused again. I must of read it wrong.


No idea. I feel that Havik's original inclusion in the comic already deconfirmed him, but this issue doesn't do anything for or against him. If you already thought he was out, there's nothing here to suggest that he's in, and vice versa.

The only thing that made me think he was deconfirmed is giving him his MKD primary as his comic outfit.
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I still feel like they'll be making him some large annoying monster distorted body if he is the big bad.
 
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Wait I thought that summary was saying he was trying to become the blood demon still,

Now I'm confused again. I must of read it wrong.

The Blood Demon is the thing that is controlling people through the Kamidogu. Havik is confirmed to be controlling people through the Kamidogu. This isn't that obvious in Harpoon's write-up, but it's clear in the comic, because Kuai Liang's speech continues from Havik's mouth once we cut to Havik.

The only thing that made me think he was deconfirmed is giving him his MKD primary as his comic outfit.
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I still feel like they'll be making him some large annoying monster distorted body if he is the big bad.

It's like what [MENTION=2722]Snow[/MENTION] said on the last page, the comic takes place 10 years before the game. If Havik succeeds in the comic, how the hell does nobody realize it for 10 years? Why does no one consider him a threat in the trailers? Raiden and Scorpion are both tracking the Kamidogu right now, what, they just give up and stop? Reiko dies, and nobody goes looking for who was helping him? I don't see it. And if Havik doesn't succeed, then he has no basis to be the big bad. So... yeah...
 
The Blood Demon is the thing that is controlling people through the Kamidogu. Havik is confirmed to be controlling people through the Kamidogu. This isn't that obvious in Harpoon's write-up, but it's clear in the comic, because Kuai Liang's speech continues from Havik's mouth once we cut to Havik.



It's like what [MENTION=2722]Snow[/MENTION] said on the last page, the comic takes place 10 years before the game. If Havik succeeds in the comic, how the hell does nobody realize it for 10 years? Why does no one consider him a threat in the trailers? Raiden and Scorpion are both tracking the Kamidogu right now, what, they just give up and stop? Reiko dies, and nobody goes looking for who was helping him? I don't see it. And if Havik doesn't succeed, then he has no basis to be the big bad. So... yeah...

So what is your take on it? Do you think that Havik will be the big bad? Or do you think it's nonsense?
 
So what is your take on it? Do you think that Havik will be the big bad? Or do you think it's nonsense?

No to both Havik and Reiko. They're the bad guys of the comic, and they'll be dealt with in the comic.

Some people mistakenly say that the comic is there to set up the game... but it's not. We can already see that. Who are definitely big villains in MKX? Mileena, Quan Chi, and Shinnok. Where are they in the comic? Mileena is in two panels with Reiko. Quan Chi has a page of flashbacks with Scorpion. Shinnok hasn't appeared once. If the comic was really interested in setting up MKX's villains, you'd think there would be a lot more of those three everywhere, but they're nowhere to be seen. Why? Because the comic is doing its own thing.
 
Jurs read it. I don't think Havik is the blood demon.

I don't think there really is a Blood Demon.

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From what we learn, Havik is controlling people through the Kamidaggers somehow. To protect his identity, he is called the Blood Demon, but it's just a cover.
 
No to both Havik and Reiko. They're the bad guys of the comic, and they'll be dealt with in the comic.

Some people mistakenly say that the comic is there to set up the game... but it's not. We can already see that. Who are definitely big villains in MKX? Mileena, Quan Chi, and Shinnok. Where are they in the comic? Mileena is in two panels with Reiko. Quan Chi has a page of flashbacks with Scorpion. Shinnok hasn't appeared once. If the comic was really interested in setting up MKX's villains, you'd think there would be a lot more of those three everywhere, but they're nowhere to be seen. Why? Because the comic is doing its own thing.

Never thought of it that way. But now that I actually take the time to think of it, I'm reminding myself that the comic itself is a prequel to MKX. I kept thinking that Havik would be possessed and turn into some mess of a monster, but this is more of a game in itself. This makes me believe that Havik is the big bad of the comic, while MKX's big bad is gonna be someone normally halfway expected but also not expected by different people.
I feel like Havik and Reiko were originally given very little evidence to be the big bad in MKX, but the fans spun it out of control for their own desires of having post UMK3 characters back and actually giving some spice to the 'returning' term.
Apologies, I'm currently very sick and I'm not exactly thinking while I type at the moment. Not sure if I'm typing it correctly enough for you to understand what I'm saying when I said the difference between Comic big bad and In-game big bad.


Clear some old PMs, I'm trying to send you something. :)

Done. Sorry, lol, didn't notice that 'sent' also adds to the bar.
 
This chapter was basically that chapter where nothing happens... at all.

It's called pacing. This chapter set the stage for a climax. Kotal is going to fight an entire army of Shokan, Johnny is going to rescue his girl.
 
No to both Havik and Reiko. They're the bad guys of the comic, and they'll be dealt with in the comic.

Some people mistakenly say that the comic is there to set up the game... but it's not. We can already see that. Who are definitely big villains in MKX? Mileena, Quan Chi, and Shinnok. Where are they in the comic? Mileena is in two panels with Reiko. Quan Chi has a page of flashbacks with Scorpion. Shinnok hasn't appeared once. If the comic was really interested in setting up MKX's villains, you'd think there would be a lot more of those three everywhere, but they're nowhere to be seen. Why? Because the comic is doing its own thing.

People keep saying this, but I completely disagree.

Ed Boon confirmed that the comics are canon. The game story and the comic story both take place after MK9. They are overlapping narratives. Do specific events from the comic need to be covered in the game, or vice versa? No.

But the two parts are pieces of the same overarching narrative. If quan-chi and shinok are the main villains in the game it only makes sense for them to be mostly absent from the comic. When MK9 ended NO ONE was aware of what Shinok and Quan Chi were planning, the characters are in the process of finding out what is going on. You aren't going to use the comic to cover the same events as the game, you use it fill in the blanks. Which is exactly what "setting up the game" is.
 
[MENTION=7626]asears08[/MENTION] Half of your post is in agreement with what I said, and half of it isn't, so I'm at a complete loss as to what your point is.

Ed Boon confirmed that the comics are canon. The game story and the comic story both take place after MK9.

Obviously. No one said otherwise.

If quan-chi and shinok are the main villains in the game it only makes sense for them to be mostly absent from the comic.

I was asked if I think that Havik will be the main villain of the game. My answer was no. Then I provided an explanation.
 
People keep saying this is 10-15 years into the story therefore Havik cannot be the boss or this is probably not canon etc. This is weird since the story mode covers a 25 year span. That means this could easily be covered and COULD be a good part of the story. Havik is not the boss, I'm 99% convinced, but he should at least be in story mode. It would be weird if he's manipulating all of this,so involved with the daggers and now the flesh pits (seen in Quan Chi's library), only to be left out of the plot in the game wouldn't it?
 
It would be weird if he's manipulating all of this,so involved with the daggers and now the flesh pits (seen in Quan Chi's library), only to be left out of the plot in the game wouldn't it?

No, it won't be weird, because the game's plot will have nothing to do with the daggers at all. I wouldn't be surprised if they weren't even mentioned once.

What we're seeing in the comic is just a thing that happened in the universe of Mortal Kombat at some point. It seems like a big deal to us, because Shawn Kittelsen is doing a good job of connecting this to the MKX storyline by planting Reiko into the Mileena/Kotal Kahnflict, and by connecting the Kamidaggers to Raiden's attempt to lock Shinnok away.

I'd be glad to be wrong, I think Reiko could be a very fun character in this game.
 
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