Roster Speculation

Tarkatan Trash said:
It happened BEFORE the rebooted portion. It's still canon. ALL events that happened before the rebooted portion are canon in both timelines. Only the events after the start of the MK1 tournament are subject to the reboot. Mythologies is NOT subject to the reboot. How many times do I have to stress this?

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What you're failing to understand is that NRS hit the reset button on the entire MK series with MK9.
MK9 was their blank canvas, and unless NRS outright says that Mythologies is canon, that cannot be assumed.
I'm pretty sure that NRS didn't say "We'll reboot the entire series, but Mythologies is canon.
The more likely scenario is that NRS rebooted the WHOLE series and mythos with MK9.



Critical-Limit said:
Dude I think you're misunderstanding me.

Do you even know what a clone character is? if you think that has a high production cost you're not paying attention to what I'm saying.
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And you're misunderstanding me, so we have a mutual misunderstanding.

I do know. Please explain how a clone character costs less to make than an alt skin with slight animation changes, because that makes no sense at all.
 
Do you guys think we will see a character based on a character made for another game, but was never used. Dairou was a character originally created for Mortal Kombat: Deadly Alliance but he didn't make the final cut. Maybe Belokk can finally see the light of day.
 
The difference between the 2 is that Dairou finally WAS used in Deception and Armageddon.
Belokk is a character that never came out at all.
 
Araknyd_Commander said:
What you're failing to understand is that NRS hit the reset button on the entire MK series with MK9.
MK9 was their blank canvas, and unless NRS outright says that Mythologies is canon, that cannot be assumed.
I'm pretty sure that NRS didn't say "We'll reboot the entire series, but Mythologies is canon.
The more likely scenario is that NRS rebooted the WHOLE series and mythos with MK9.
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I understand only what I saw with my own eyes, and what I saw with my own eyes is the same thing everyone else saw with their own eyes, and that is the change of events started when Raiden received his first vision. His first vision was at the start of MK1. How can that which happened BEFORE the change of events be changed because of the mere change of events? It's impossible! THAT is why Mythologies is still canon. Let me explain it in a scenario you would better understand.

On August 20th, 1990, Jimmy gets arrested for possession of marijuana. On June 17, 1992, Jimmy gets released from jail and attends his son Phil's Little League game on June 19, 1992. Then, in 2011, some wizard sends a message to Jimmy in the past on June 18th, 1992 telling him to take Phil to the water park that day. On their way home from the water park, a drunk driver who is 3 times the legal limit runs a red light and hits Jimmy and Phil, killing them both, therefore nullifying their presence at a Little League game. According to your logic, Jimmy did not get arrested for possession of marijuana.

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Araknyd_Commander said:
What you're failing to understand is that NRS hit the reset button on the entire MK series with MK9.
MK9 was their blank canvas, and unless NRS outright says that Mythologies is canon, that cannot be assumed.
I'm pretty sure that NRS didn't say "We'll reboot the entire series, but Mythologies is canon.
The more likely scenario is that NRS rebooted the WHOLE series and mythos with MK9.





And you're misunderstanding me, so we have a mutual misunderstanding.

I do know. Please explain how a clone character costs less to make than an alt skin with slight animation changes, because that makes no sense at all.
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I never made a claim that clone costs less than only a skin. A clone however doesn't costs much more at all because it had the exact same moves ported over, only the different attributes like frame data are changed.

Thus more bang per buck. A smart use of minimal resources
 
Tarkatan Trash said:
How can that which happened BEFORE the change of events be changed because of the mere change of events?
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Because NRS hit the reset button on the entire series with MK9.
It's the equivalent of hitting the reset button on the Sega Genesis, when the game freezes (or in this case with MK going downhill).
MK9 is the blank canvas, from which they restarted the MK series.
 
Araknyd_Commander said:
Because NRS hit the reset button on the entire series with MK9.
It's the equivalent of hitting the reset button on the Sega Genesis, when the game freezes (or in this case with MK going downhill).
MK9 is the blank canvas, from which they restarted the MK series.
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Only from MK1 onward changed. The Story Mode is proof of that.

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Tarkatan Trash said:
When did Raiden receive the first vision from his future self again?
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At the same time that Johhny bought his car.
You can't automatically assume that Mythologies is canon, just as I can assume that it's not canon.
All I can go by is MK9, as MK9 is now the established canon going forward, and MK9 just mentions that Sub-Zero stopped Quan Chi and Shinnok in the past, but it says NOTHING of him getting the amulet.
That's just you assuming.
 
Araknyd_Commander said:
You can't automatically assume that Mythologies is canon, just as I can assume that it's not canon.
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So you can assume things but I can't assume the opposite? Hypocrisy!

If you did not physically see Mythologies get rebooted with your own eyes, then Mythologies is still canon. I certainly didn't see it happen with my own eyes. All I saw with my own eyes is from MK1 onward and ONLY MK1 onward.

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Tarkatan Trash said:
So you can assume things but I can't assume the opposite? Hypocrisy!

If you did not physically see Mythologies get rebooted with your own eyes, then Mythologies is still canon. I certainly didn't see it happen with my own eyes. All I saw with my own eyes is from MK1 onward and ONLY MK1 onward.
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No.
I'm saying that neither of us can assume based off of the old timeline.
Don't twist my words.

Mythologies = old timeline.
 
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Tarkatan Trash said:
I understand only what I saw with my own eyes, and what I saw with my own eyes is the same thing everyone else saw with their own eyes, and that is the change of events started when Raiden received his first vision. His first vision was at the start of MK1. How can that which happened BEFORE the change of events be changed because of the mere change of events? It's impossible! THAT is why Mythologies is still canon. Let me explain it in a scenario you would better understand.

On August 20th, 1990, Jimmy gets arrested for possession of marijuana. On June 17, 1992, Jimmy gets released from jail and attends his son Phil's Little League game on June 19, 1992. Then, in 2011, some wizard sends a message to Jimmy in the past on June 18th, 1992 telling him to take Phil to the water park that day. On their way home from the water park, a drunk driver who is 3 times the legal limit runs a red light and hits Jimmy and Phil, killing them both, therefore nullifying their presence at a Little League game. According to your logic, Jimmy did not get arrested for possession of marijuana.

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The changes to the series go back to before Raiden receives his first vision. I already fu***** told you this. Everything was reset. Some things remained the same, others did not.
 
Old time line is canon because Armageddon was canon at the start of mk9.

If you want to make an argument that somehow more elements were changed outside of what raiden did, that's up for speculation.

But what happens is what happens. I see no reason to auto believe mk9 doesn't tie into the previous installments.
 
Without Armageddon, MK9 never would have happened.
They still tie into each other, because who knows if Raiden still receives more visions or not. His amulet has recovered, but it can just as easily shatter again.
 
Old Timeline is still relevant dude. Shao Kahn could do something in the old timeline that affects the new one. Remember, he's a god in the old timeline.
 
It's not relevant. The old timeline got wiped when everything went back.
The only thing that Shao Kahn could have done in the old timeline was to prevent Raiden from sending those messages to himself, which he didn't do, thus the new timeline was created when everything reverted back.
You're proving my point. That's not the case in this new timeline, as he was killed in MK9.
MK9 is its OWN timeline / blank slate.
 
It's a useless debate because we don't know how the MK universe exists.
It's possible they go with the infinite earth theory, where every separate action creates a new existence.

If that's the case then the two timelines coexist. Which means that Kahn could still do something about the new one.
 
We don't know how it exists in its entirety, but we DO know that NRS had planned to bring MK back from the dead with MK9.
The MK9 (aka MK1 thru UMK3 reboot) served as their new start, along with being bought out by WB and being re-branded as NetherRealm Studios.

Possibly, but the dead giveaway was when Ed Boon said that MK9 was a reboot of the MK series.
To reboot means to discard all continuity in an established series in order to recreate its characters, timeline and backstory from the beginning.
 
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