Roster Speculation

Mr. Ice said:
But even if we don't get anything new at CC, it doesn't prevent them from showing more gameplay of the existing characters.
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No, it doesn't. Not being at Comic Con does though. :)

I found that tweet I mentioned earlier:

https://twitter.com/noobde/status/489787499749703680

He hasn't said a word about Comic Con since that E3 aftershow though. Some new gameplay and maybe a new arena would be more than enough for me too
 
Immortal Kombatant said:
I also saw a tweet about someone asking him if we can get another character announcement soon and Boon replied 'I guess so'. But who knows what he means by soon. Maybe Gamescom is soon enough for them to prepare. And then there will be PAX Prime two weeks after that. So it's probable that we'll get nothing this time. Injustice was comic-related while MKX is not...
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being comic related dosnt have much at all to do with it being at comic con or not. comic con is just a name nowadays (remember twilight at comic con?). And to be honest we all know boon is a troll...maybe hes going to make an announcement right before comic con. like how they did with the first trailer and E3

i mean wouldnt it be kinda foolish to not make a SINGLE announcement at comic con?....waiiiiiiit i get it now.....maybe there not making an "announcement" but instead some "announcements". you know..like more then one?
 
Araknyd_Commander said:
This.
Thank you.
It looks like someone was actually paying attention to MK9's story mode.






EG: "We are aware of your plight, Raiden."
Raiden: "Then you must intervene on Earthrealms behalf."
EG: "We cannot."
Raiden: "But Shao Kahn.... Liu Kang has bested him twice, yet he still....
EG: "Shao Kahn has not violated the rules of Mortal Kombat."
Raiden: "What? He invades Earthrealm, as we speak."
ED: "Invasion itself is not a transgression. It is the merger of realms that is prescribed"
Raiden: "A DISTINCTION WITHOUT A DIFFERENCE!!!" "INNOCENTS ARE DYING AT THE HANDS OF OUTWORLD!!!"
EG: "It is regretable, but the Mortal Kombat tournaments are not intended to prevent certain outcomes." "They are intended only to maintain balance among the realms."
Raiden: "Please, you must."
EG: "We have spoken."

^^^^
That sounds like Elder Gods who don't care about morality.

Shinnok escaping the Netherrealm is also something that the Elder Gods wouldn't see as unbalance to the realms, therefore it doesn't suit their needs.
Shinnok and Quan Chi taking over and merging all the realms together, to become the supreme overlords / rulers of all that is in existence IS something that would destroy that balance between the realms and bother the Elder Gods, as they are the rulers of all in the MK world, and this union between Quan Chi and Shinnok could potentially jeopardize THEIR position as Elder Gods.

Bi-Han as Sub-Zero, being their Champion, makes TOTAL sense as he stopped their armies before as Sub-Zero and can do it again, stopping Quan Chi and Shinnok from merging the realms, and preventing them from being the NEW Elder Gods (as Shao Kahn wanted to be in MK9).

"Today I become THE Elder God." - Shao Kahn, MK9, final battle intro before fighting Raiden
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Not caring about morality is one thing...explain to me how they wouldn't care about their own damn skins! I should remind you that Bi-Han's actions that nearly let Shinnok out of the Netherrealm would have had DEVASTATING consequences for the Elder Gods. We know damn well from MK4's own story (albeit in the original timeline) what Shinnok's intentions are if he were to ever be let loose; revenge on the Elder Gods. It should again be pointed out that Bi-Han was a major accessory in this nearly happening.

Actually, now that I think about it, Quan Chi is still in possession of the real Amulet. Once again, who handed him that Amulet? I thought so.

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Tarkatan Trash said:
Not caring about morality is one thing...explain to me how they wouldn't care about their own damn skins!
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It's like you didn't read any of this:

Shinnok escaping the Netherrealm is also something that the Elder Gods wouldn't see as unbalance to the realms, therefore it doesn't suit their needs.
Shinnok and Quan Chi taking over and merging all the realms together, to become the supreme overlords / rulers of all that is in existence IS something that would destroy that balance between the realms and bother the Elder Gods, as they are the rulers of all in the MK world, and this union between Quan Chi and Shinnok could potentially jeopardize THEIR position as Elder Gods.
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Tarkatan Trash said:
I should remind you that Bi-Han's actions that nearly let Shinnok out of the Netherrealm would have had DEVASTATING consequences for the Elder Gods.
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No, according to MK9 the Elder Gods don't give a crap about Shinnok escaping or not, as is evident by the conversation that they had with Raiden.
They only care about the merging of realms, and making sure that people comply to the rules of Mortal Kombat.
Quan Chi escaping alone =/= a threat to the Elder Gods.
His escape alone means nothing to them.
Quan Chi and Shinnok teaming up to merge the realms and overtaking the Elder Gods to try to be Elder Gods them selves, IS a threat to the Elder Gods.


Tarkatan Trash said:
We know damn well from MK4's own story (albeit in the original timeline) what Shinnok's intentions are if he were to ever be let loose; revenge on the Elder Gods. It should again be pointed out that Bi-Han was a major accessory in this nearly happening.

Actually, now that I think about it, Quan Chi is still in possession of the real Amulet. Once again, who handed him that Amulet? I thought so.
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You do know that the timeline was skewed in MK9, right.
That reply is invalid, as it does not apply to this timeline in MK9 and further going into MK X.

Mk9 never said HOW he got the amulet, so you can't just assume stuff from MK4, which is irrelevant to MK9.
 
Araknyd_Commander said:
No, according to MK9 the Elder Gods don't give a crap about Shinnok escaping or not, as is evident by the conversation that they had with Raiden.
They only care about the merging of realms, and making sure that people comply to the rules of Mortal Kombat.
Quan Chi escaping alone =/= a threat to the Elder Gods.
His escape alone means nothing to them.
Quan Chi and Shinnok teaming up to merge the realms and overtaking the Elder Gods to try to be Elder Gods them selves, IS a threat to the Elder Gods.
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How can they "not give a crap about Shinnok escaping the Netherrealm" if THEY were the ones who banished him there in the first place? On top of that, the Elder Gods were EXCLUSIVELY referring to Shao Kahn's invasion.




You do know that the timeline was skewed in MK9, right.
That reply is invalid, as it does not apply to this timeline in MK9 and further going into MK X.

Mk9 never said HOW he got the amulet, so you can't just assume stuff from MK4, which is irrelevant to MK9.
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First off, what proof do you have that the timeline change altered Shinnok's motive for wanting out of the Netherrealm?

Additionally, Mythologies is crystal clear on how Quan Chi got the Amulet. Since it was Pre-MK1, it was NOT affected by the timeline change at all.

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I think Vorpax is a good idea.

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Tarkatan Trash said:
How can they "not give a crap about Shinnok escaping the Netherrealm" if THEY were the ones who banished him there in the first place? On top of that, the Elder Gods were EXCLUSIVELY referring to Shao Kahn's invasion.
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Because he was obviously about to escape his confinement, as apparent by the ending of MK9's Story Mode.
If the Elder Gods REALLY cared, they'd put and end to Shinnok's plans of escaping, at the end of MK9.
The fact that Shinnok is almost free at the end, leads me to believe that the Elder Gods don't care.



Tarkatan Trash said:
First off, what proof do you have that the timeline change altered Shinnok's motive for wanting out of the Netherrealm?

Additionally, Mythologies is crystal clear on how Quan Chi got the Amulet. Since it was Pre-MK1, it was NOT affected by the timeline change at all.
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I have no more proof that the timeline change DID change his motives, just as you have no proof that the timeline change DIDN'T change his motives.

You don't know whether or not pre-MK1 was changed by the timeline.
How do you know that this isn't an alternate reality?
You don't.
Deception may or may not even happen in MK X.
In Deception, Shinnok had sent Shujinko to retrieve the amulet and return it to him, and Shinnok told him that Quan Chi had left in a city of the Netherrealm.
Once Shujinko returned the amulet, Shinnok noticed a "difference" in the amulet, a sign that it was Quan Chi's fake amulet returned.
 
Araknyd_Commander said:
You don't know whether or not pre-MK1 was changed by the timeline.
How do you know that this isn't an alternate reality?
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When did Raiden receive his first vision again?

Right at the very start of the MK1 tourney. THAT is where the timeline change begins. By virtue of common sense, every single event before that first vision, right down to Shang Tsung's ship arriving at the island for the tournament, is canon in BOTH timelines. Mythologies is no exception, especially since its events were referenced in the MK9 story mode.

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Maybe MKX will explain the retcon with something like "Shinnok receive the message of the future Raiden too, but long time before the events of first MK and the butterfly effect do the rest". That would be horrible, but after all possible with Ed Boon, lol.
 
Nasty_Freak said:
I think Vorpax is a good idea.

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This!!!
Plus I never posted who I think the roster might be. Using the rumor (14 New, 8 MK9, 8 3D-Era, The Confirmed Excluded):

MK9
-Skarlet
-Reptile
-Mileena
-Rain
-Ermac

3D-Era
-Tanya
-Reiko
-Havik
-Fuujin
-Sareena
-Daegon
-Ashrah
-Li Mei

New
-Ashrah's Sister
-New Edenian Fighter
-New Earthrealm Warrior
-Shirai Ryu Fighter
-Assassin Kharacter (X meaning Kill Konfirmed?)
-Hornbuckle
-Belokk
-Vampire
-Korean Kharacter
-Shadow Priest

This list does not include any sub-boss or Boss Characters
 
Tarkatan Trash said:
When did Raiden receive his first vision again?

Right at the very start of the MK1 tourney. THAT is where the timeline change begins. By virtue of common sense, every single event before that first vision, right down to Shang Tsung's ship arriving at the island for the tournament, is canon in BOTH timelines. Mythologies is no exception, especially since its events were referenced in the MK9 story mode.
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Or by virtue of mere assumption.
You assume that the Mothologies timeline wasn't retconned, but you have no proof to back that up.

Various parts of things that happened in the past were cherry-picked and vague in MK9, but MK9 doesn't reference Mythologies.


Tarkatan Trash said:
Scorpion's chapter says otherwise.
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How so?
 
Araknyd_Commander said:
Or by virtue of mere assumption.
You assume that the Mothologies timeline wasn't retconned, but you have no proof to back that up.

Various parts of things that happened in the past were cherry-picked and vague in MK9, but MK9 doesn't reference Mythologies.
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Scorpion's chapter = confirmation of Mythologies still being canon.

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Tarkatan Trash said:
Scorpion's chapter = confirmation of Mythologies still being canon.
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Sub-Zero's MK9 biography = confirmation of Mythologies not being canon.

Bi-Han and Kuai-Liang's pre-Mythologies story was retconned in the MK9 human Sub-Zero BIO, as both brothers being kidnapped by the Lin Kuei when they were still children, which never happened in the original timeline.
 
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Araknyd_Commander said:
Sub-Zero's MK9 biography = confirmation of Mythologies not being canon.

Bi-Han and Kuai-Liang's pre-Mythologies story was retconned in the MK9 human Sub-Zero BIO, as both brothers being kidnapped by the Lin Kuei when they were still children, which never happened in the original timeline.
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Newsflash: they were kidnapped according to Mythologies' own story as well. By their own father.

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Tarkatan Trash said:
Newsflash: they were kidnapped according to Mythologies' own story as well. By their own father.
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Newsflash: They sure as hell were not.
The father took the sons with him to move back to China and they trained as Lin Kuei.
There was no kidnapping in Mythologies.

In MK9, the Lin Kuei killed their parents and kidnapped them as children.
If you need futher proof, go watch Sub-Zero's MK9 ending, where it says "....that the Lin Kuei were ultimately responsible for the deaths of both Sub-Zero's and Scorpion's families."
 
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to be honest i dont think "mortal kombat: mythologies" is going to be in the final roster....seeing how it isnt even a character

so does it matter?
 
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