Liu Kang/Ryu Comparison

Thirteenthorder

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Okay, so many people consider Liu Kang and Ryu to be alike for the following reasons:

-Both are easy to play but difficult to master
-Both can be considered the main character
-Both are considered the "Jack of All Trades, Master of None" in their respective series

The bolded point therein lies my problem. Now, I most definitely consider Ryu to be the most balanced character in SF, as he can generally deal with all tactics.

-Projectile Wars (HADOOOOKEN!)
-Jump-Ins/Anti Air (SHORYUUUKENNNN!) -Zoning (Tatsumaki/Hurricane Kick)

However I don't find Liu to possess the same tools. His fireball is viable, sure. But look at his Bicycle Kick. If blocked, it can be punished far to easy, same for his Flying Kick.

To be honest I don't consider Liu Kang to be the protagonist at this point (due to the sheer amount of branching storylines in 2011), not to mention his not so all-around moveset.

So who would you consider the true Jack of All Trades in MK 2011. Personally I'd give the award to Nightwolf, he has pretty much a Special move for any situation, even giving you two options for Projectile spam: Arrows or Reflector. I find him to far more be the Ryu stereotype than Liu Kang.

What do you think?
 
What people has to understand is that this is Mortal Kombat, Street Fighter is 10 steps, no, 10 stairs under Mortal Kombat. And they may have some things similars but they are not similar at all.

There is no comparison. Anyway good post, im not speaking against you, but people has to see what MK is and stop comparing with other games, i never liked SF or Tekken and always was an MK Fan since Sega Genesis.
 
In terms of SF4 Ryu, Sub Zero is a better comparison by play style.

Street Fighter is 10 steps, no, 10 stairs under Mortal Kombat.
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Fox17, I disagree with you, I feel quite the opposite. Lets not continue this direction of discussion though before this thread gets closed.
 
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I'd hate for the thread is derailed, so I'll respond in the most balanced way I can.

@Fox17 - While I agree the series is different, I don't feel it's fair to say that SF is "10 Steps" below MK. I feel they both came from very different conceptualized beginnings, and branched off into separate and respectable fighting titans. They both suffered through bad releases(hi thar Armageddon, hi thar EX Series). To me, comparing SF and MK and saying one is better than the other is like saying Mozart is better than Salvador Dali. Two very different styles in the same field of artistry.

MK and SF vary in Art Style, Character Roles, and even dimensions for a brief time.

To me, they have similarities, YES (such as an Asian male lead, each of which has a signature fireball and goes through rigorous training continuously). So I don't feel one can appropriately deemed better than the other. I love both series, by the way. You can hit me up for a match as Smoke in MK 2011 and as Bison/Vega/Seth in SSF4.
 
no that what needs to happen cuse all this is gonna do is cause a flame war and i think we all like both cuse there different.

(such as an Asian male lead)
Ryu is brazilian or chinese well liu kang is japanese.
 
I am going to ignore everything you said about Ryu and Liu Kang being kompared kause I hate Street Fighter. I hate it when people kompare MK characters to SF characters(espically Liu Kang to Ryu).

You seriously think Nightwolf is the protagonist? Did you not see how much of everyone was looking up to Liu Kang to win the 1st tournament? And how the Elder Gods did that little ray thing going down on Liu Kang everytime he won a tournament.

Nightwolf didn't do anything but kill Sindel and save a bunch of souls. There is no one he kan be a protagonist.

If anyone who has a better chance in being the protagonist than Liu Kang, it might be Raiden.
 
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Soul Calibur, Street Fighter, KoF, and DoA are all terrible, cheesy, and made for Anime and Manga loving wierdos.

.... Let the flame wars begin :-P
 
You seriously think Nightwolf is the protagonist? Did you not see how much of everyone was looking up to Liu Kang to win the 1st tournament? And how the Elder Gods did that little ray thing going down on Liu Kang everytime he won a tournament.

Nightwolf didn't do anything but kill Sindel and save a bunch of souls.
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I guess you skipped over the key words "Jack of All Trades"? He is talking Nightwolf from a gameplay standpoint; a well-rounded character with tools for every situation.
 
told you guys this isn't the place to compare stuff like this cuse not every one likes sf but every one here does like mk so instant flame war.
 
Ryu is brazilian? That's a first for me. He is japanese as far as I know. The only brazilian is Blanka... How sad...

Anyway, I don't think you can compare Ryu and Liu Kang. They're far too different.
 
i ment on this site not in general.

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Ryu is brazilian? That's a first for me. He is japanese as far as I know. The only brazilian is Blanka... How sad...
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Reason i say this is because i seen a movie of street fighter and ryu kept talken about being in brazil so I drew a conclusion and it seems i was wrong i'm not a big big fan of street fighter but i do like it.
 
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Aldo Moreno said:
I am going to ignore everything you said about Ryu and Liu Kang being kompared kause I hate Street Fighter. I hate it when people kompare MK characters to SF characters(espically Liu Kang to Ryu).

You seriously think Nightwolf is the protagonist? Did you not see how much of everyone was looking up to Liu Kang to win the 1st tournament? And how the Elder Gods did that little ray thing going down on Liu Kang everytime he won a tournament.

Nightwolf didn't do anything but kill Sindel and save a bunch of souls. There is no one he kan be a protagonist.

If anyone who has a better chance in being the protagonist than Liu Kang, it might be Raiden.
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Everyone is better as a hero than Liu Kang IMO but NRS choosed him from the beggining and thats what we got. NVM i dont think that Liu Kang is the hero even Nightwolf a character i dont like and i never play i think is more hero than liu kang. just what i think, dont want to start a character battle.
I never though LK as a hero just another character I rarely use.
 
oh see were on the same page that's a first for me on this site.

I think that we can all agree that kratos is the hero in mk 2011.
ok maybe not.

but liu kang is the hero in this game cuse it's all about the mk tournament so liu kang hero shao kahn bad guy it's that simple.
 
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FlawlessVictor said:
I guess you skipped over the key words "Jack of All Trades"? He is talking Nightwolf from a gameplay standpoint; a well-rounded character with tools for every situation.
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Thank you so much! I'm not trying to flame/troll anybody. But I was definitely speaking from a gameplay standpoint, hence the term Jack of All Trades being used.

Not to mention, last time I checked Japanese and Chinese fell under the blanket of Asian.

And personally, I feel that if you don't want to discuss MK and SF characters being compared AT ALL that this isn't the thread for you.
 
Aldo Moreno said:
I am going to ignore everything you said about Ryu and Liu Kang being kompared kause I hate Street Fighter. I hate it when people kompare MK characters to SF characters(espically Liu Kang to Ryu).

You seriously think Nightwolf is the protagonist? Did you not see how much of everyone was looking up to Liu Kang to win the 1st tournament? And how the Elder Gods did that little ray thing going down on Liu Kang everytime he won a tournament.

Nightwolf didn't do anything but kill Sindel and save a bunch of souls. There is no one he kan be a protagonist.

If anyone who has a better chance in being the protagonist than Liu Kang, it might be Raiden.
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Not to mention that I feel Nightwolf and Liu played equally beneficial roles in MK 2011. Liu Kang won a tournament, and Nightwolf saved Johnny Cage and Sonya Blade from Sindel who killed almost everyone. I'd call it about even, as the narrative couldn't advance without either events taking place.
 
I understand that but you have to put that in your first post or they will some times misunderstand you and the fire starts.
'just a tip'
 
guys, the main question was who can deal with anything at him, Thirteenthorder didn't start a liu kang vs ryu thread. btw, I'd vote ryu on that :D :P but anyway, imo I guess Noob Saibot? projectile that stops blocking, teleport and smashing you if you throw a projectile to him, throwing his shadow clone on the air or in the ground? pretty much making the expression the best defence is offence come true. I don't like or dislike liu kang myself but I do consider him and kung lao the protagonists story-wise. other than that, in terms of using characters I roll with tons of others before him
 
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