What do you want NRS to work on next?
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xkSongblindedxk
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^ Under WB, yeah it can work lol a fighter on Looney Tunes could be fun.
Nasty_Freak
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In that case, I'd rather they make a "WB All Stars: Battle Arena".
All the significant WB characters should be there!!! The final boss would be...
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THE JOHNNY ROOK
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I want them to make Killer Instinct! Xbox only.
Nasty_Freak
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The characters for the WB brawler game would be...
- Everyone from MKvsDCU (Except Dark Kahn. Harley Quinn would be Joker's assistant in special attacks. Kitana's assistant in special attacks would be Jade. Mileena would be Baraka's assistant in special attacks. Kung Lao would be Liu Kang's assistant in special attacks. Shao Kahn's assistant in special attacks would be Sindel. Shang Tsung's assistant would be Goro. Sonya would be assisted by Jax during special attacks.)
- Nightwing
- Doomsday
- Raven
- Solomon Grundy
- Skarlet
- Quan Chi
- Reptile
- Johnny Cage
- Freddy Kreuger
- Jason Vorhees
- Looney Tunes Characters
- Lord of The Rings Characters
- F.E.A.R. Characters
- Harry Potter
- Neo (The Matrix)
- Watchmen Characters
- Juliet Starling (Lollipop Chainsaw)
- Scooby Doo and Shaggy (Together)
- And of course the fusion of Freddy Kreuger and Superman.
Feel free to add more.
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FrostyTheBear
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As Critical-Limit said the reboot and original are the same timeline but that batman argument doesn't really work right because there's so many batman books that the story gets confusing for new readers to jump into or even old readers to follow so they make more and to also add a spin on it.I doubt netherrealm has to resources to really flesh out each timeline so that's why i think they should stick to just one after all new players only need mk9 to jump into so its far from confusing worn out or old.
Flying Jinko
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I guess the main reason people want a non canon route for a Scorpion/Sub Zero adventure game is to see both these characters fleshed out in a way we won't be able to see in the canon storyline and mainly to entertain a what if scenario. Plus going the canon route would warrant the introduction of a plethora of new characters that wouldn't have a bearing on the main storyline and would also require limited interaction with the already known original cast to main the authenticity of the main storyline. This would basically apply to an adventure game based on any character unless it is an exclusive origin story game of some sort.
Talking about action/adventure games, I really wouldn't mind a game based around Shujinko, a detailed canon re-telling of his tale from his early teen years, to training with Bo Rai Cho, his recruitment by the Lin Kuei, his remaining adventures at Earthrealm, Chaosrealm, Netherealm and Orderealm till the events of where MK9 ended and Raiden approaches him to appoint him as one of Earthrealm's protectors, like a tie in game to MK10, like how MKM was to MK4. Also the story would be easier to maintain as canon compared to other characters, since most of Shujinko's story arc is outside the MK tournaments.
If done properly I feel it could have a great potential in the gameplay department as well, with good use of Shujinko's trait to acquire fighting abilities/powers of others -learning different martial arts forms/weapon styles/powers, combining them in unique ways such that everyone will have a different version of Shujinko according to their playstyle, with endless possibilities.
Talking about action/adventure games, I really wouldn't mind a game based around Shujinko, a detailed canon re-telling of his tale from his early teen years, to training with Bo Rai Cho, his recruitment by the Lin Kuei, his remaining adventures at Earthrealm, Chaosrealm, Netherealm and Orderealm till the events of where MK9 ended and Raiden approaches him to appoint him as one of Earthrealm's protectors, like a tie in game to MK10, like how MKM was to MK4. Also the story would be easier to maintain as canon compared to other characters, since most of Shujinko's story arc is outside the MK tournaments.
If done properly I feel it could have a great potential in the gameplay department as well, with good use of Shujinko's trait to acquire fighting abilities/powers of others -learning different martial arts forms/weapon styles/powers, combining them in unique ways such that everyone will have a different version of Shujinko according to their playstyle, with endless possibilities.
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Commander
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I don't see how so.
My idea for a Sub-Zero / Scorpion game wouldn't necessarily = origins.
Like I said before, I'd like to see them do a Sub-Zero / Scorpion game taking place similar to Sub-Zero's MK9 ending, with them hunting down the Lin Kuei and Quan Chi. (NON-CANON)
With the writing team that NRS now has, plus the financial backing of WB, I could see them doing a VERY good Scorpion and Sub-Zero game (non-canon to the MK10 storyline), where they hunt down Quan Chi and join together as an uneasy alliance to take out their common enemy.
Despite what you may personally believe, Sub-Zero and Scorpion are the lungs of the MK series, as per your comparison.
You can live with 1 good lung, but without any lungs, the body will die.
That argument has been going to long enough, though, and there are some others who believe that they are completely disposable, so I'll just leave it at that.
Why can't any of those characters that you mentioned appear as cameos in that type of game????
As for who else would be in the game aside from Scorpion and Sub-Zero:
Cyrax (Lin Kuei)
Sektor (Lin Kuei)
Smoke (Lin Kuei)
Noob Saibot (helping Quan Chi, to serve his own needs and take over the NetherRealm later)
Sareena (NetherRealm, helps Sub-Zero out later)
Jataaka (NetherRealm)
Kia (NetherRealm)
Quan Chi
just to name a few.
Why can't all that you mentioned in this paragraph also be done for a Sub-Zero / Scorpion game taking place in the MK3 - MK4 era?
The MK3 and MK4 where also very popular eras, and a Sub-Zero / Scorpion game could be a fun game to play, just as SM was.
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Destroyer_13
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Commander
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Destroyer_13
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oh lol. my bad. ive never even played shaolin monks.
Subz 711
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I still think a Scorpion and Sub-Zero game should be the next game, and I still think it could work to fit the canon games.
People saying they only have Quan Chi and Shinnok as bosses, Yah right.
Start off as one player with Scorpion. You have to complete a small mission that has him somehow feel responsible for Sub-Zero's fate in the netherrealm. He rescues him, and voila You have both Scorpion and Sub-Zero to play Co-op with. It could work similarly to Resident Evil 6 where you had to play only as Leon before you could play as Leon and Helena. Like tell how they got to where they are sort of thing.
Then the game could have several bosses. First Off Quan Chi and Shinnok have everyone under their control. So the major bosses could just be the heroes.
Boss Fights could be like:
Kabal and Stryker
Kitana and Jade
Sindel
Sektor and Cyrax
Smoke
Havik
Noob Saibot
Liu Kang
Shinnok
Quan Chi (Quan Chi's ass dies here in the final boss fight, I'm thinking something like he raises the dead and possibly has all of the heroes team up against Scorpion and Sub-Zero in the end, before he finally has to face them both himself).
Have the game end with Scorpion and Sub-Zero having respect for each other, but go their separate ways. Then have the new boss, whoever that may be, reveal himself. Set up for MK10.
They both could have interactions with other heroes as well like Raiden, Sonya, Johnny Cage, and Sareena.
MK: Cold Day in Hell.lol.
People saying they only have Quan Chi and Shinnok as bosses, Yah right.
Start off as one player with Scorpion. You have to complete a small mission that has him somehow feel responsible for Sub-Zero's fate in the netherrealm. He rescues him, and voila You have both Scorpion and Sub-Zero to play Co-op with. It could work similarly to Resident Evil 6 where you had to play only as Leon before you could play as Leon and Helena. Like tell how they got to where they are sort of thing.
Then the game could have several bosses. First Off Quan Chi and Shinnok have everyone under their control. So the major bosses could just be the heroes.
Boss Fights could be like:
Kabal and Stryker
Kitana and Jade
Sindel
Sektor and Cyrax
Smoke
Havik
Noob Saibot
Liu Kang
Shinnok
Quan Chi (Quan Chi's ass dies here in the final boss fight, I'm thinking something like he raises the dead and possibly has all of the heroes team up against Scorpion and Sub-Zero in the end, before he finally has to face them both himself).
Have the game end with Scorpion and Sub-Zero having respect for each other, but go their separate ways. Then have the new boss, whoever that may be, reveal himself. Set up for MK10.
They both could have interactions with other heroes as well like Raiden, Sonya, Johnny Cage, and Sareena.
MK: Cold Day in Hell.lol.
Gouki
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1)How come it hasnt been done already then...?
2)I dont believe NRS would even entertain a 'What if ending' scenario that far honestly...
3) good idea...on paper. in more detail lets see how it looks...
4)Even if you have one good 'lung'', the body is dead without a Heart, and Brain, and even if those were present, it will eventually die without kidneys, liver, etc; other things that help the body to live. in otherwords, You cant have 'MK' with JUST Scorpion and Sub Zero, as I said, and if you believe that, then you are a fool...
5) what would the following people: Raiden, Liu Kang, Kung Lao, Jade, Kitana, be doing in the Netherrealm?? If this taking place during MK4 then Quan chi is either banned to the netherealm or helping Shinnok. If he is helping shinnok, then scorpion may not know that quan chi is the true murderer yet because that info is not revealed until the END of MK4(where quan chi gets stuck in the Netherrealm with scorpion)
Scorpion nor sub zero can defeat shinnok in the end because raiden and/or liu kang(the main heroes) is suppose to do that. I do not believe NRS would attempt to have any of those two kill shinnok. Stall him? sure, defeat him? no
Half the chars you named are not even really known to anyone besides the MKfans who are alittle above casuals... 1st sign of trouble...
6) it cant be done in MK3 era because there is no REAL motive for them to team up. "to defeat shao kahn"? I doubt NRS would have Scorpion or Sub Zero claim victory over Shao Khan. Again, That destiny is reserved for Liu Kang and/or Raiden and those two ALONE. They are the main heroes of that era and honestly, I would not have it any other way.
7)MK4 was not that popular... MK saw its best days during MK1-UMK3.
MK4 was part of the beginning of MK's fall from grace.
Im sure NRS(Midway) at the time, though MK:MSZ would be fun to play, same with MK:SF... but when the sales come back...it was not as fun as they thought...
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Commander
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1) They WERE making that EXACT type of game until midway went bankrupt.
When you have no money, you can't make games.
Here's the article:
http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2010/07/09/ed-boon-reveals-mk-fire-and-ice.aspx
2) MK did entertain "What if" endings in Shaolin Monks when you beat Kano, Goro, Kintaro, Motaro and Shao Kahn and probably would have done the same for MK: Fire and Ice, if they didn't cancel the game due to going bankrupt.
3) It was a great idea on paper, and NRS even started making the game.
Please refer to the article link I posted above on 1).
4) I never said that MK should only have Sub-Zero and Scorpion.
Sub-Zero and Scorpion are just vital iconic characters to the series, and if you don't believe that, then YOU are a fool.
5) It's an adventure game. Scorpion and Sub-Zero's story doesn't HAVE to be canon to the events of MK9 and MK10.
Shaolin Monks wasn't canon and it was still a fun game, so why can't the same be done for a Sub-Zero and Scorpion game?
(You still haven't answered that question.)
What better idea do you have to introduce unpopular characters into the series, aside from DLC?
There's only so much stuff that you can fit into an MK fighting game Story Mode.
Take MK9 for example, there was a lot of stuff missing from the story mode that never got told because it didn't fit the time frame and the story would have been way too long for a fighting game.
6) The motive for them to team up would be to take out Quan Chi, since Quan Chi is the one who betrayed them, NOT Shao Kahn.
Did you even pay attention to the MK9 story mode, or even play MK4.
Quan Chi is revealed to be the one who betrayed both Scorpion and Sub-Zero, and pretty much master-minded their rivalry.
7) What are you talking about?
MK4 WAS THAT popular.
It was out in arcades, and they even had an "MK4 Road Tour" for it. :|
You must have not been around the MK scene back then during the time that MK4 was released.
MK4 was insanely popular and MK really fell off during the "3D straight-to-consoles" era.
MKM:SZ was bullshit, but MK: SM was lots of fun to play and had lots of secrets, unlockables, Versus mode, and even an arcade version of MKII.
IF NRS decided to pick up or re-do an MK: Fire and Ice game, I'm sure that it would be pretty awesome, considering the resources and financial backing that they now have (WB).
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Gouki
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1)And then they got picked up by WB, and what did they make from the start? MKvsDC... not fire and Ice, so yea... must not have been TOO great on paper if it "went away"..."Unfortunately, it looks like we won't be seeing Scorpion and Sub-Zero teaming up anytime soon." a fact that remains true to this day... and even if they DID do the game, that does not mean it would have been GOOD... *cough* Mythologies SUB ZERO
2)...No. Im talking about a 'Ladder' what if ending. they would entertain that to an extent which would not be a FULL game about it...well depending on that char and his or her importance to the STORY.
3)read it...now refer to my answer in point 1...
4)Yes they are because of their popularity however...MK would STILL die...if it was just them. again, it brings us back to lungs, liver, brain and heart...ALL vitals are needed to survive...and SELL. the point in the nutshell. moving on...
5)The only things that did not make SM canon is the fact that you had to kill off chars that did not die during that time in the canon era(Jade, Baraka...kinda, Scorpion, Kano and ermac if u find them, shang Tsung etc) and other minor things, however, the storyline of the game CLOSELY follows the same CANON storyline of MK2... Most of the KEY events of MK2 happen in SM, so it worked out. Also it worked out because Liu Kang is THE Main hero in MK and is suppose to beat kahn anyway. scorpion and sub zero are not. storywise, sub zero is no more important then sonya and cage(not saying they are unimportant).
6)I have played MK4...and I know that they would not have that motive until AFTER the primary events of MK4...which is when Scorp is informed of Quan chi's true acts(as in the vid u posted)... ALSO take note of the fact that quan chi becomes STUCK in the netherrealm in that vid...
The 'shao kahn statement' came as a response to your suggestion about them possibly being in an adventure game in the MK3 era, which up until the new timeline, Quan chi was not involved in. or did u forget already?
7) Looking back, compared to its predecessors, again, it was not THAT popular...MK2 is STILL more popular than MOST other MK games, MK4 included).
yes MK FURTHER declined during that era...and it seemed all hope was lost...
Im well aware of what MK:SM has. It is one of my favorite games.
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Commander
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1) They made MKvsDC BEFORE WB bought them out, when they were known as Midway, and they partnered with WB for that 1 game.
WB didn't buy Midway until AFTER they went bankrupt, which was after MKvsDC.
That's the reason that they COULDN'T make that game.
They were dead broke before MK9.
WB bought them out and they made MK9, AFTER WB bought them and they changed their name to NetherRealm Studios, to reboot the series and get themselves back on the map.
2) Exactly my point too. I didn't say anything about ladder endings.
The only thing I said was that it could take place similar to Sub-Zero's MK9 ending, where they join together.
It was just an example as to how they could explain Sub-Zero and Scorpion joining together, but I never said that they should use that exact ending.
3) Go see my #1 point again.
It's obvious that you didn't read my #1 post when I said that Midway went bankrupt, the first time.
Midway=\= NetherRealm Studios
NetherRealm Studios was the new studio name after WB bought them.
4)Again, I never said that it should "just be them."
You're putting words in my mouth.
I just merely stated that they are that iconic and very popular to the series. Period.
5) That's exactly my point.
Lots of that stuff didn't happen in MKII.
The only thing that is similar to the story of MII is the setting (where it took place) and the characters.
There were lots of stuff in SM that NEVER happened in MK2.
That's the point.
A story about Sub-Zero and Scorpion doesn't HAVE to take place in the MK9 or MK10 canon, so just because they're not the main heroes in MK9 or MK10 doesn't mean that they can't have their own game.
Sonya and Jax were in MK: SF and they weren't the MAIN heroes in MK ever either.
6) Quan Chi making Scorpion and Sub-Zero turn on each other happened during the events of MK1.
He master-minded everything during MK1.
Did you really play MK9 story mode or pay attention to the MK4 ending?
I mentioned that Scorpion and Sub-Zero joining together could happen like in Sub-Zero's MK9 ending, which technically would be AFTER MK3 when Shan Kahn is dead.
Events taking place after MK3 = Shao Kahn being dead
Having a Scorpion and Sub-Zero game take place during the events of MK3 would make NO sense, and isn't what I was implying.
What I also mentioned was that certain parts of the story could pay homage to MK3, like Smoke being turned into a cyborg.
7) MK4 was THAT popular, when it was in the arcade, but the popularity died down later after it came to consoles.
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Gouki
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1) the point is, in the past 4 to 5 years,NRS/Midway has released two games...THE ICE/FIRE GAME HAS NOT BEEN MADE nor thought about past that link u posted...
2)YES, thats what I implied, u and I were misunderstood. i was not talking about minor changes in SM as u are(killing kano, goro, etc). they are villains, they have to be killed anyway. Im implying what was mentioned in MK9 about Subz' WHAT IF Ladder ending being a possible game. i dont think NRS would entertain it.
3)now go read MY first post again...
4)and I said 'Moving on'...it is finished. ive made my point and it stands. i did not say u said 'just those two', but it seems 'those two' are all u care about. (a similar argument in another thread, but that is over with, as this one is.)
5)SM worked because it was for the most part, accurate to the actual canon without straying too much from the MAIN things. again the KEY things of MK2 were done in MK:SM.
6) I did not say when Scorp and Sub zero's beef STARTED, I said when Scorpion FOUND OUT the truth about it, which was at the end of MK4 in HIS ending(in the original timeline). nothing cannot be assumed for this alt line because it has not happened yet. scorp is still a lap dog for quan chi...and subz is a cyber
7) Im talking about OVERALL popularity, compared to other mk games. not as popular as MK2...or some other MK games...
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