Super Smash Bros

Here are some ideas I and others have had for revamping veteran characters and parts of their movesets in Smash 4:

1. Wolf is almost completely unique aside from his specials and Final Smash. Maybe he could use the rocket launcher, grenades, jet packs, etc. as specials and his Wolfen as a Final Smash (though I'm sure how different that would be from the Arwing, speaking of which...)

2. Falco is almost PERFECTLY done, IMO, other than his Final Smash. Give him an Arwing instead of a Landmaster plz kthnxbai

3. For those like me who miss Dr. Mario and his "slower and stronger" playstyle in Melee but don't want him to see him as an alt, I think Mario should inherit the Doc's playstyle in Smash 4. Also give him a new down B or his at least old Tornado, FLUDD is horseshit in Brawl

4. Luigi is almost perfect, IMO, besides his Down B. He should have his Poltergeist 3000 from Luigi's Mansion instead of Luigi Cyclone

5. Ganondorf needs, needs, NEEDS a large scale revamp. Enough with this C. Falcon clone/semi-clone bullshit. He could use a combination of swordfighting and dark magic, or he could take a page from his Wind Waker incarnation and fight with 2 swords

6. Mewtwo if/when he comes back (before I go on, he did NOT get ****ing replaced by Lucario, okay, that was just a dumbass rumor, he was planned to be in the game but got cut most likely due to time constraints) could be heavier and could use a different Side B and Down B

7. Roy (again, he wasn't replaced by Ike, he like Mewtwo was planned to be in the game but most likely cut due to time constraints) should come back with a luigified/decloned moveset and his new look

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I like the way ganon plays in melee though. He's nothing like falcon at all. half his moves may LOOK similar, but the properties are soooo soooo different.
 
In Melee he's good, but in Brawl he's complete ass

He's got WAY more to work with than just being in the shadow of C. Falcon. It's time for a change up
 
I like the way ganon plays in melee though. He's nothing like falcon at all. half his moves may LOOK similar, but the properties are soooo soooo different.

yeah, switching from captain falcon to ganondorf was always refreshing. Next to C falcon and Ness, Ganon was my fav. Never cared for any of the other clones besides ganon. (ok I kinda preffered Dr mario over the normal one)

ganon legit sucked ass in brawl so alot of people would want him completly redone in future titles, but I just want him to be good again like he was in melee.
 
Black Shadow from F-Zero could get in and inherit Ganon's old Melee playstyle if y'all would like that

Although I'd kinda like for him to be unique
 
yeah, switching from captain falcon to ganondorf was always refreshing. Next to C falcon and Ness, Ganon was my fav. Never cared for any of the other clones besides ganon. (ok I kinda preffered Dr mario over the normal one)

ganon legit sucked ass in brawl so alot of people would want him completly redone in future titles, but I just want him to be good again like he was in melee.

Yeah the only thing I liked about his change in brawl was that his forward B was a grab that led to a tech chase.

That's pretty legit.
 
Yeah the only thing I liked about his change in brawl was that his forward B was a grab that led to a tech chase.

That's pretty legit.

I was thinking how cool it would be if Melee ganon had brawl ganon's grab, but then I remembered how I also liked in melee how his side B would launch you in the air giving way for his leg attack afterwards.

cant decide.
 
I was thinking how cool it would be if Melee ganon had brawl ganon's grab, but then I remembered how I also liked in melee how his side B would launch you in the air giving way for his leg attack afterwards.

cant decide.

I think the grab would be better because it leaves them afraid to sit in shield anytime you're grounded. As a Fox main I'm not afraid of Ganon's grab because it's slow and I can land behind him and stay 100% safe. With a Forward B like in brawl. I'd have a much larger guessing game ahead of me than just spacing myself.


The forward B grab would set up a tech chase meaning you got a 30/30/30 chance to guess which way they are gonna roll. The normal Forward B lead toa guarantee hit. But it was alot more risky.






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My fox getting destroyed by my crewmate Rice's Marth.

I dunno why I'm getting raped so hard. And complete with Melee texture hacks.
 
Critical. Show me your best video lol I want to show one of my friends how awesome you are.

The dude is so c0cky. He thinks he can beat anyone with Fox and he doesn't even play competitively >_>
 
I like it better than the thought of sakura doing another round. Atleast that means the chance of it not being trash has increased.

Still has a chance to be bad. But I hope not.

Smash is the only game of it's kind. And IMO, SSBM was the greatest fighter created so far.

I want smash to succeed again... and Nintendo wasn't gonna make another Melee, hopefully Namco Bandai will.
 
I just want to make another point.

I don't care if it has Wave-dashing or l-cancelling. (As in I don't care if all aerials are auto L-cancelled). As long as I have dash dancing, I can do w/o wave-dashing.

Just bring back the balance of Offense/defense that we had in Melee.

No tripping

and the weight is the most important thing.

I didn't like Brawl's floatyness. I like the heavyness of Melee.
 
It may depend on the WiiU's audience.
Nintendo's crusade to market their Wii console as casual friendly as possible even leaked into one of their biggest and most respected series. That's why brawl felt not as serious and not as complete as it should have. They could step it up with WiiU and make the smash brothers game we've been waiting for.



However I have some worries. Its not about Namco either, that could actually turn out good. It's the fact that Smash Bros 4 has been said to be released as the same game on both WiiU AND 3DS. You heard it, They're not making a seperate spinoff game for 3DS, its gonna be the same game. Sound like a recipe for a watered down disaster if you ask me. They even claimed that "simply adding more characters and stages is not the way to go, and how we are going about to change things up"


goddammit all we want is for it to play closer to Melee's gameplay and have alot of characters and stages for the fans. I really dont like or want to hear whats on their oh so important "change" agenda.
 
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