[SPOILER] Sub-Zero's identity in MKX confirmed!

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p.W said:
The fact that plenty of good guys whose souls belonged to Quan Chi are back for MKX, that this Sub-Zero isn't a complete dick who's trying to kill everyone, and is dressed in typical Kuai Liang MK3-D clothing, these didn't tip you off that it might be Kuai Liang?



Having said what I said, this is absolutely, positively meaningless as far as Bi Han's chances of being in the game are concerned. Have you already forgotten what Kuai Liang looked like in MK9?

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The exact same belt, the exact same buckles in the cloth. This must simply be the traditional dress of high ranking Lin Kuei, or Lin Kuei cryomancers specifically.
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The statue and MK9 sub-zero ARE NOT wearing the same belt. the insignia on the shoulders is simply the Lin kuei emblem. proves nothing
 
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sub-one said:
The statue and MK9 sub-zero ARE NOT wearing the same belt. the insignia on the shoulders is simply the Lin kuei emblem. proves nothing
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I agree that it proves nothing especially judging from the comics showing that 'sekret' differently. It does resemble Kuai's costume though. In MK9, Kuai Liang's exact costume was in Quan Chi's vision. Some people believe that Kuai Liang wears Bi-Han's costume in MK9 but (correct me if I'm wrong) that's never been confirmed. It is a safe assumption though. Smoke had two outfits so Bi Han could. But what did Kuai wear when he was Tundra?
 
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Ehs@n said:
Hi everyone.
I thought Sub zero in the story trailler is definitely Bi Han. beacuse of the dialogue and mk9 ending. but when I saw the comic part 4, become so sad. look at these pic:
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i don't know who he is but he isnt Bi Han.
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That's not proof of anything in Kuai's favor.
Kuai-Liang's costume was also in the false vision that Quan Chi fed to Scorpion in MK9, but that costume didn't exist during the time of Scorpion's death.
Scorpion's killer is Bi-Han not Kuai-Liang.
If anything, you've actually inadvertently given more evidence that proves to be in favor of the Sub-Zero in the MKX trailer being Bi-Han, given that the Sub-Zero that killed Scorpion in the comics and maskless Sub-Zero in the trailer wear the same costume.
 
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Commander said:
That's not proof of anything in Kuai's favor.
Kuai-Liang's costume was also in the false vision that Quan Chi fed to Scorpion in MK9, but that costume didn't exist during the time of Scorpion's death.
Scorpion's killer is Bi-Han not Kuai-Liang.
If anything, you've actually inadvertently given more evidence that proves to be in favor of the Sub-Zero in the MKX trailer being Bi-Han, given that the Sub-Zero that killed Scorpion in the comics and maskless Sub-Zero in the trailer wear the same costume.
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If that costume wasn't Bi-Han's, its very confusing why Kuai's exact costume shows up in that vision. :-|
 
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sub-one said:
The statue and MK9 sub-zero ARE NOT wearing the same belt. the insignia on the shoulders is simply the Lin kuei emblem. proves nothing
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I'm not the one trying to prove anything, you goof. You're the one who came in saying "hard proof that Bi Han is the statue!" That statue, too, IS NOT wearing the same belt. In fact, in MK9 Bi Han did not wear a lion belt at all. Only Kuai did.

So just so this is clear to everyone, this is how messed up your logic is:

1. All costumes are different, but have similarities.
2. Kuai in MK9 has the lion belt, Bi Han does not.
3. Bi Han in the comic has the lion belt.
4. Therefore the statue must be Bi Han because they're both known to have lion belts!!!

I want you to silently contemplate the complete extent of how wrong you are.
 
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Noob-Zer013 said:
If that costume wasn't Bi-Han's, its very confusing why Kuai's exact costume shows up in that vision. :-|
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Exactly, good sir.
That vision in the comic is of Scorpion's accused killer being Bi-Han, and Kuai didn't assume his brother's identity and don the costume until AFTER her died.
 
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Commander said:
Exactly, good sir.
That vision in the comic is of Scorpion's accused killer being Bi-Han, and Kuai didn't assume his brother's identity and don the costume until AFTER her died.
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ITT: people making fun of a really, really old guy's trouble with remembering costumes. Poor Scorpion. It's amazing he keeps it together as well as he does, really. :(
 
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p.W said:
I'm not the one trying to prove anything, you goof. You're the one who came in saying "hard proof that Bi Han is the statue!" That statue, too, IS NOT wearing the same belt. In fact, in MK9 Bi Han did not wear a lion belt at all. Only Kuai did.

So just so this is clear to everyone, this is how messed up your logic is:

1. All costumes are different, but have similarities.
2. Kuai in MK9 has the lion belt, Bi Han does not.
3. Bi Han in the comic has the lion belt.
4. Therefore the statue must be Bi Han because they're both known to have lion belts!!!

I want you to silently contemplate the complete extent of how wrong you are.
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Who u calling a goof, Doofus?! I didn't say shit about it being bi han in the statue bub, I think ya got me confused for someone else.
 
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sub-one said:
Who u calling a goof, Doofus?! I didn't say shit about it being bi han in the statue bub, I think ya got me confused for someone else.
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Oh yeah... that wasn't you...

Heh

Heh

...whoops? :vroam:
 
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I'm sort of convinced Bi-han and Kuai Lang will both return as Sub-zero in some form or fashion, similar to MK9 for story telling purposes.
 
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Rolling_Toaster said:
Spoiler:
Someone also said that 2 characters as skins won't be in MKX so Kuai Liang is both primary and secondary costumes. :)
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That means the outfit we have seen so far is probably
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his appearance before the scar. Maybe he will be early freed on NRW, or maybe we will flashback to a time he is without the scar.
 
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Critical-Limit said:
I'm sort of convinced Bi-han and Kuai Lang will both return as Sub-zero in some form or fashion, similar to MK9 for story telling purposes.
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Agreed.
The 1 in the trailer is probably Kuai along with the alt costume in Ermac's Fatality, and the primary is probably Bi-Han in MKX.
Much like how 1 was the alt for the other, with the primary being Bi-Han.
[MENTION=18204]Rolling_Toaster[/MENTION] - That example likely doesn't apply to Sub-Zero as both brothers have used the "mantle" of Sub-Zero, and played the same character in the previous game.
On top of that, Noob Saibot is nowhere to be mentioned and the intro lines point more toward Bi-Han.
 
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Commander said:
Agreed.
The 1 in the trailer is probably Kuai along with the alt costume in Ermac's Fatality, and the primary is probably Bi-Han in MKX.
Much like how 1 was the alt for the other, with the primary being Bi-Han.
[MENTION=18204]Rolling_Toaster[/MENTION] - That example likely doesn't apply to Sub-Zero as both brothers have used the "mantle" of Sub-Zero, and played the same character in the previous game.
On top of that, Noob Saibot is nowhere to be mentioned and the intro lines point more toward Bi-Han.
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As I expected even though he's wearing the primary outfit and called by name, you still continue to be in denial.
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Rolling_Toaster said:
As I expected even though he's wearing the primary outfit and called by name, you still continue to be in denial.
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It's not denial, but way to troll.
I specifically admitted to the 1 in the trailer being Kuai, but that Bi-Han can still be an alt.
How do you explain Bi-Han wearing the same exact costume that Kuai wore in the trailer, after he killed Scorpion, unless you are saying that Kuai stole Bi-Han's story of killing Scorpion.

Also, that's not the primary costume.
It's the secondary costume.
 
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Commander said:
It's not denial, but way to troll.
I specifically admitted to the 1 in the trailer being Kuai, but that Bi-Han can still be an alt.
How do you explain Bi-Han wearing the same exact costume that Kuai wore in the trailer, after he killed Scorpion, unless you are saying that Kuai stole Bi-Han's story of killing Scorpion.

Also, that's not the primary costume.
It's the secondary costume.
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Someone said that it was the primary in the new comic.
 
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Rolling_Toaster said:
Someone said that it was the primary in the new comic.
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Someone who?
Your "friend" who made a guess?
If that's the primary costume then Shawn Kittlesen screwed up the lore and made Kuai Scorpion's killer in the comics.
The fact remains that Noob Saibot was left on a cliffhanger in MK9, and he's nowhere to be mentioned thus far, and the majority of the intro lines in the game point to Bi-Han.
If Noob Saibot isn't playable in MKX, which seems to be the case, then Bi-Han and Kuai are Sub-Zero alts.
 
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