Soul Calibur IV

Goraka said:
I was singling out DOA as being pretty much one of the worst, if not THE worst, of the main 3D fighter series. And while I acknowledge that VF is the most in-depth series going, I f*cking hate it. I had VF4 and the demo of VF5, and I actually prefer DOA tbh. I know I just contradicted myself.
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The main reason few people show DOA any love is because of the counter system. The main complaints against DOA3 were aimed at how simple it was to pull off a counter, and again at the ridiculously high amount of damage each counter inflicted.

DOA4 attempted to rectify both these problems, and succeeded to varying degrees. If Itagaki's departure from Tecmo doesn't completely derail the franchise, then I suspect DOA will continue to evolve and find greater acceptance among the community.
 
Oh boy. I play Dead Space for 48 hours and this is what I come back to? Fine, sit down and prepare for an eyeful.

DOA, having recently played DOA4 for the first time, I can say is my least favorite 3D fighter. Counters amongst amateur to moderately good players play out to be no more than a guessing game. "Hit a button and hope it blocks what he's doing". Now I have no doubt that if a player sits down and memorizes the moveset and tells of every damned fighter AND has great reflexes AND can adequately predict his opponent (A.K.A. he's not fighting a button masher) then MAYBE you could pull of counters with some reasonable skill. But practice makes perfect they say and I'm sure many top-level DOA players can pull off counters very well. But it seems to me that would get really boring really fast.

As for Soul Calibur being a button masher (unlike MK), that is a valid viewpoint. With freedom comes other issues. Of all the 3D fighters I think SC has the best blend of pre-set combos and freeform movements. By contrast, in DOA4 almost every move can be strung into any other move in any syncopation of button presses. Hell, I beat most opponents by just mashing buttons in DOA4. But that is something that ALL freeform combat suffers from.

When you have a wide variety of moves to use, there comes the problem of figuring out a way to CONTROL those movements. MK doesn't suffer from this issue because in order to pull off ANYTHING you have to freakin' memorize the button movements required to pull it off. Most 2D fighers I've played have a similar situation except there aren't usually button-link combos a la MK, just sequences of buttons for special moves.

Really, when you fight a button masher he's not really playing. When you fight somebody who's actually playing the game, having a lot of options is a WONDERFUL thing. It fosters variety and unpredictable-ness and while you get those elements in Soul Calibur that comes at the price of being able to do those many varieties of movements "by accident" so to speak. And really, once you do learn what moves do what and try to use those moves specifically, you're no longer a button masher.

So really, fighting a noob is never fun whether he wins due to button mashing, or loses due to being a complete ditz. So the way I see it, as long as I don't fight noobs, I don't have to worry about SCIV being a button masher.


Oh P.S. VADER COMIN' TO MY CONSOLE! FLIPPIN' WOOT B1TCHES!
 
Come on, you knew it was going to happen someday. I don't know how it is on 360, but on the PS3 there's actually a space for Yoda on the character select screen. I've heard nothing but bad things about Yoda, but f*ck it, I'll download him anyway. Star Wars fanboyism and all that.
Although in a way I'm disappointed. Having all 3 versions of SCII makes me feel all warm and fuzzy. There's no reason for me to own both SCIVs now.
 
Glamador said:
So really, fighting a noob is never fun whether he wins due to button mashing, or loses due to being a complete ditz. So the way I see it, as long as I don't fight noobs, I don't have to worry about SCIV being a button masher.
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Lol. Ah! I miss those days of being a SC noob... It was so much fun tearing apart the good players around. I'm pretty fast at learning, usually in 3 matches I've learnt the moveset. Which only further annoyed them. Then again, going straight from SC2 to SC3 was a lot easier then going from nothing to SC2.

The only thing I cannot pull off is timing which is a annoyance because I really suck at Gitar Heroes. But thats okay because I don't like or play the game. My half-bro's never liked SC because "Its too slow" which made me go "huh?" my reaction is "what the hell do they play then???" O_O'

On DOA: Can't honestly express too much, first impressions of seeing it in action: ZzzzZzzzZzzz and I've never picked it up. The characters are too typical Japanese for my liking (girls in skimpy clothing bores me by now because I'm a Anime fan and they appear in pretty much EVERYTHING).
 
Goraka said:
Come on, you knew it was going to happen someday. I don't know how it is on 360, but on the PS3 there's actually a space for Yoda on the character select screen. I've heard nothing but bad things about Yoda, but f*ck it, I'll download him anyway. Star Wars fanboyism and all that.
Although in a way I'm disappointed. Having all 3 versions of SCII makes me feel all warm and fuzzy. There's no reason for me to own both SCIVs now.
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Soul Calibur 4 really sucks, 4 3 reasons:
1) The faces of the characters (on the contrary of the "cousin" Tekken), the more the game goes on, the less the faces R realistic. Them look like they R drawn in the manga;
2) Scheherazade's voice (& female custom character's Voice 1);
3) Is such a sad game.
But I have 2 admit that it doesn't suck at all...
There's only one thing good: Ivy, Taki & Seung Mina, hotter than ever...
 
DBSFTekkenMKfan said:
Soul Calibur 4 really sucks, 4 3 reasons:
1) The faces of the characters (on the contrary of the "cousin" Tekken), the more the game goes on, the less the faces R realistic. Them look like they R drawn in the manga;
2) Scheherazade's voice (& female custom character's Voice 1);
3) Is such a sad game.
But I have 2 admit that it doesn't suck at all...
There's only one thing good: Ivy, Taki & Seung Mina, hotter than ever...
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I have no real opinion on Soul Calibur but I have a question.
You wrote "Soul Calibur 4 really sucks 4 3 reasons" and then wrote
"But I have 2 admit that it doesn't suck at all..."

What do you mean? It makes zero sense.
 
Armon24 said:
I have no real opinion on Soul Calibur but I have a question.
You wrote "Soul Calibur 4 really sucks 4 3 reasons" and then wrote
"But I have 2 admit that it doesn't suck at all..."

What do you mean? It makes zero sense.
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It means that it sucks, but we have 2 give it credit, that there's only one good thing: Ivy, Taki & Seung Mina hotter than ever...
 
I'm sorry but Soul Calibur 4 is a peice of sh**. I pre-ordered it and got it from day one. After a few hrs of playing it I realized how horrible of a fighter it was. No depth, broken characters...etc It took me about 3 days maybe to trade it in. =/
 
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