Please post MKAK 360 version impressions here.. **Please Read**

Kurtis Stryker said:
I feel very ripped off by the fact that I do not have the stretch video option to fit my television; I can do it with the UMK3 stand-alone release, so why the hell can't I do it with this Kollection? Ridiculous. When it comes to playing UMK3, I'm sticking with the stand-alone release.

That said, its nice to have the first two games, even if I can't stretch it to fit my TV. I only played online this morning twice with the first game, and the lag was god awful. The lag for this Kollection is even worse than MK9.

The colors also look very, very poor, particularly the stages.
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I thought I was the only one with this problem. Do you have an HDTV? If so then I guess that could be a reason. I have no idea but it looks really weird and the colors are almost blurry; it's pretty bad.
 
ok here is a video with some diferences if you set the difficulty very hard in mk1. i used version 5.0


my memory card is full so i just recorded some matches but with some examples of diferences.
in very hard basicly the AI make the same if it was the third endurances, doesn't matters if you are in the first fight.

against kano and raiden i was trying to show that if you uppercut the oponent perform a special move. this happens in medium difficulty too but around the match before the mirror match and not in the first matches.

against raiden and liu kang you can see how i make a jumping punch and the oponent jumps and eat it. if you make this in a lower difficulty the oponent tends to stand block or sometime eat the hit but not jumping. it works in the last endurances and not always. in very hard it works from start.

and finally against scorpion i show you how jumping at certain distance from the oponent he throw a "fireball". it works always
 
So... you're noticing that it is getting better with time, for the lag anyways.... hopefully this trend continues.
By the way, on the 360, custom soundtracks are AMAZING on this!
 
mdsfx said:
This isn't a difference shown on two different monitors, but the same one, without the use of a screencapture card or software that might modify colors. No, the MKAK screen is not using smooth. You obviously have not seen just how bad the "smooth" filter is. It looks a lot worse than either of these pics.

You're obviously settled on the idea that there isn't a difference. That's great, but I'm not. I also have the previous XBLA release of UMK3 and it looks significantly different than MKAK.

I'm not complaining for the sake of annoying anyone, but the black levels are really nasty compared to the last release of UMK3.
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I'm not saying there's not a difference but apparently you aren't comprehending what I was trying to tell you or you just don't want to. I practically spelled everything out to the letter including saying they may have changed the contrast\brightness settings in software and also the fact that you can change that in MAME to whatever you want. You where also posting screendumps and comparing them so I commented on that. So whatever. You where also comparing it to the RGB monitor on an actual cabinet which again is an apples to oranges comparison for reasons I have already gone through and don't want to have to repeat again.

No I'm not settled on the idea that there's no difference. Just the fact that you said this indicates you just do not understand me. You say you aren't complaining for the sake or annoying anyone but you are ignoring good points I make including technical facts about how it worked at the arcade, how sometimes differences in software can change how an image is displayed because of different color correction whether big or small differences, etc. etc. notice I said SOFTWARE not just hardware and screen and just repeating the same stuff so it sure seems like that's what you are doing. You're just lumping me on the side that's defending the kollection when I'm not really I was just trying to explain technically why there may be differences and why there will always be differences compared to how it looks on an arcade monitor.

If you where even bothering to listen to me one iota you would have seen how I even acknowledged how the smooth filter seems to add a filter on top of what it already does during the normal filter which yes does make it look a little more blurry. I was flipping back and forth between shots earlier and I can see this. However most of the shots you posted earlier seemed to really only have a difference in contrast and I blew them up and examined them closely.

How does "yes there's a difference... I'm explaining to you why." translate to "I'm settled on thinking there's no difference" only in a trolls\person complaining for the sake of annoying people's world it does.

But apparently you are settled in what you think and don't want to listen to anyone like me and going by your track record I know you'll probably just ignore all the good points I make here so I'm done here.
 
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smoke.tetsu said:
I'm not saying there's not a difference but apparently you aren't comprehending what I was trying to tell you or you just don't want to. I practically spelled everything out to the letter including saying they may have changed the contrast\brightness settings in software and also the fact that you can change that in MAME to whatever you want. You where also posting screendumps and comparing them so I commented on that. So whatever. You where also comparing it to the RGB monitor on an actual cabinet which again is an apples to oranges comparison for reasons I have already gone through and don't want to have to repeat again.

No I'm not settled on the idea that there's no difference. Just the fact that you said this indicates you just do not understand me. You say you aren't complaining for the sake or annoying anyone but you are ignoring good points I make including technical facts about how it worked at the arcade, how sometimes differences in software can change how an image is displayed because of different color correction whether big or small differences, etc. etc. notice I said SOFTWARE not just hardware and screen and just repeating the same stuff so it sure seems like that's what you are doing. You're just lumping me on the side that's defending the kollection when I'm not really I was just trying to explain technically why there may be differences and why there will always be differences compared to how it looks on an arcade monitor.

If you where even bothering to listen to me one iota you would have seen how I even acknowledged how the smooth filter seems to add a filter on top of what it already does during the normal filter which yes does make it look a little more blurry. I was flipping back and forth between shots earlier and I can see this. However most of the shots you posted earlier seemed to really only have a difference in contrast and I blew them up and examined them closely.

How does "yes there's a difference... I'm explaining to you why." translate to "I'm settled on thinking there's no difference" only in a trolls\person complaining for the sake of annoying people's world it does.

But apparently you are settled in what you think and don't want to listen to anyone like me and going by your track record I know you'll probably just ignore all the good points I make here so I'm done here.
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I would continue this conversation if I had the energy or will to do so. I understood what you were saying. Take your forum-empowered knee-jerks to someone else. Sheesh...
 
Forum-empowered hmmm.... I would have told you this stuff to your face IRL if we where in person. Believe me I would! That is if you would even sit there and listen to it which you probably wouldn't. Thanks for proving my point though. But it's just so easy to make the assumption that everyone says things online that they wouldn't say in real life and the only person doing a knee jerk reaction here is you in that last post where you blatantly ignore what I say. Seems like you are saying something more like "take your facts and logic to someone else, they inconvenience me and I just want to interprate what you are saying however I want!" But this conversation is getting off the topic and more into troll territory with what you just said so I end this post right here. Believe what you want.

Anyway for full disclosure I play MK1-3 in MAME so it's not like I'm bashing it or saying anything against it or anything.
 
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smoke.tetsu said:
Forum-empowered hmmm.... I would have told you this stuff to your face IRL if we where in person. Believe me I would! That is if you would even sit there and listen to it which you probably wouldn't. Thanks for proving my point though. But it's just so easy to make the assumption that everyone says things online that they wouldn't say in real life and the only person doing a knee jerk reaction here is you in that last post where you blatantly ignore what I say. Seems like you are saying something more like "take your facts and logic to someone else, they inconvenience me and I just want to interprate what you are saying however I want!" But this conversation is getting off the topic and more into troll territory with what you just said so I end this post right here. Believe what you want.

Anyway for full disclosure I play MK1-3 in MAME so it's not like I'm bashing it or saying anything against it or anything.
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All I've been saying is that "X" looks better than "Y," whether it's ultimately comparing apples to oranges or not. I was just throwing out simple screenshots for comparison.

I'm not sure why that triggered you to shout out "yoohoos," complaining that I wasn't reading your replies. You're being a bit aggressive...
 
Sorry for being a bit aggressive but it just gets frustrating when all you do is say "X" looks better than "Y" while at the same time ignoring posts or chunks of my posts or interpreting them differently than what I wrote in which I state the reasons why that may be. Which covered everything, software, hardware, screen, etc. I'm not going to repeat myself however that would be fruitless. I've done this enough already. I can only explain things so many times.
 
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smoke.tetsu said:
Sorry for being a bit aggressive but it just gets frustrating when all you do is say "X" looks better than "Y" while at the same time ignoring posts or chunks of my posts or interpreting them differently than what I wrote in which I state the reasons why that may be. Which covered everything, software, hardware, screen, etc. I'm not going to repeat myself however that would be fruitless. I've done this enough already. I can only explain things so many times.
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I haven't ignored anything. I understand why things can be different. Let's just move on.
 
All i know is the standalone UMK3 by digital eclipse looks a MILLION times better than UMK3 in the "kollection" so thats the one i'll be playing, other oceans version offends my eyes with its blurry washed out look, i'd rather see vivid rich colours and an upscaled image
 
RelicUK said:
All i know is the standalone UMK3 by digital eclipse looks a MILLION times better than UMK3 in the "kollection" so thats the one i'll be playing, other oceans version offends my eyes with its blurry washed out look, i'd rather see vivid rich colours and an upscaled image
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I read that the MKAK file size is the same (or even lower) from the standalone UMK3 so it's not a big surprise. I like that they release the old MK games for PS3/360 but it doesn't deserve $9.99/800 Microsoft Points imo.
 
Downloaded it two hours ago. I was gonna wait because of all the complaints about it on here, but I realized that was mostly nitpicky BS when everyone started arguing about how this, that, and the other thing weren't "arcade perfect". :roll:

Good thing I was right. With the exception of the online lag, (bad, but not "unplayable") MKAK is what I wanted it to be.
 
I found very little problems with the xbox version. After reading these reviews, I wasnt going to buy it but I did anyway since I'm such an old school MK fan. I didnt play it online yet but im waiting for the patch to fix that problem but there was little lag on all 3 games. The XBLA UMK3 had much more lag than this arcade version. I was really upset about the very low quality sound of MK2 music but the sound effects were fine. MK2 had the best music so that really upset me. MK1 had no problems. Yes there are a few problems like the ones mentioned by the majority of the people in here BUT overall, its decent. Not better than MAME or arcade of course but it works for now until they release the patch to fix problems here and there. Overall, I am happy with the purchase and cant wait to play a you guys online! I just wish there were hardcore old school MK fans around Northern Virginia :(

Ok, now I see a HUGE difference in graphics and color between the XBLA UMK3 and the MKAK UMK3. The graphics and color in the XBLA is much more clear and crisp than the MKAK version. I also noticed how the MKAK version is missing a level the XBLA has. It is the first level fighting on the bridge with a dark blue sky and a full moon. Looks like I'll just stick to the XBLA version of UMK3


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Hey guys, chill out please!

Anyways, people complain too much....I get that people are upset with what they pay for, but the game is fun, regardless (imo). The biggest problem I have with it is the difficulty....holy shit, is the MKAK hard to beat....but it is a challenge that I like to take (and rage), lol.

Maybe people would like games more if they kinda ignored the little 'negatives' and played for the fun.
 
Is it just me but UMK3 from MKAK seems to be a lot "lighter" as in turns of colors from the XBLA UMK3 that was released in 2006ish? I played the hell out of UMK3 but MKAK seems to be colored filtered and so much lighter? It just seems....brighter?
 
THE JOHNNY ROOK said:
Is it just me but UMK3 from MKAK seems to be a lot "lighter" as in turns of colors from the XBLA UMK3 that was released in 2006ish? I played the hell out of UMK3 but MKAK seems to be colored filtered and so much lighter? It just seems....brighter?
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The thing that i dont understand is that when Mortal Kombat Armagedon came out in 2006 the kollectors edition came with UMK3 Arcade Perfect and full screen on the PS2 and Xbox. Which was almost 5 years ago...if UMK3 Arcade perfect was released on the PS2 and Xbox 5 years ago why couldnt they just Swap the versions into this MKAK for Xbox Live and PS3 and just add the online content and it was full screen when it came out 5 years ago Arcade Perfect no Glitches, sound problems with characters etc..everything was perfect
 
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