Perhaps this game will be rated M.

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ThePunisher_02

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I mean it doesn't have to have over the top violence in it to be rated M. All DC wanted was for MK to not be so gorey. Max Payne was rated M and there was no gore and barely much cussing in it, there were mild ones but no F-bombs.
 
lol. like how halo is m for "gore" when i dont see any. i mean the flood is a zombie and thats gore but that doesnt really count. its just blood and violence, not even intense violence. but i see what ur saying. after seeing joker's fatality it should be M
 
Interesting idea and it would seem that the Joker's fatality was quite far for a Teen game but there wasn't really much blood so maybe that's how they can get away with it? I think DC said at the start that they don't want an M game hence why they've always said T but to the limits and if it were to go past that then I think DC would force them to tone it down to T which is a shame if they were made to change things like the fatalities.
 
I dont know what exactly constitutes an M versus a T game, but this game with everything weve seen appears to be just as gorey as any previous MK game.

Maye since heads arent getting chopped off that that is the reason, but i think a bullet in the forehead is much worse than an uppercut head decapitation.

Think about all the crazy little kids that kill their friends because they were playing "mortal kombat." It happened when there were no guns in the game and now theres a gun. Some crazy little shit will probably shot his friend in the forehead.
 
I've4 always said it's not an M rated game if you don't see a person's insides from the outside. No dismemberment, decapitation, evisceration, or disembowelment.
 
Oblivion is M rated, and all it has are a few blood splatters, the occaisional use of 'Bastard' or 'Piss' and the ability to strip people down to their underwear.
I suppose there's simulated drug use too. But there's no dismemberment, and the characters obviously never have sex - there's no children in the game!
 
I was under the impression Oblivion originally was rated T but once it was realized you could use mods to strip people down to nothing they bumped it up to M. I might be wrong about that. I can't tell for the life of me why Oblivion is rated M other than that, as you said it has barely anything worth being M rated. Simulated drug and alcohol is a biggie, for some reason the ESRB thinks teenagers don't know the effects of alcohol.
 
I read up on it after my last post, and it seems that the blood effect was 'too realistic' for a T game, so they booted it up to M. Bethesda then responded by upping the blood content. I recently traded my 360 Oblivion for the PS3 GOTY one (for the updated graphics, which are beautiful apart from the awful pixelated shadows), and I had noticed the increased blood, but I thought it was probably just me.
 
I really don't think DC is going to allow their characters to be part of an M-rated game, no matter how toned down it is for Mortal Kombat. If it were possible, though, I would honestly be pissed to see this get a mature rating without opting for the standard MK-volume gore and dismemberments.
 
What a lot of people forget is that the first MK when ported to the Sega and SNES was rated T believe it or not...yet got away with a lot of shit (no doubt due to that time period) but MK especially being the first large game to make a stink about the ESRB back when politician Joe Liberman made a big deal about it....thus the ESRB was created and taken a hell of a lot more seriously...

But honestly, despite whether this game is T or M rating makes no difference or should make none to most fans. You see you don't have to be "over the top gorey" to get a thrill out of playing MK, for one the blood is still in there which is more then I can say for other fighters, secondly fatalities are still in which again...more then I can say for other fighters and thirdly. Fatalities like Joker already has made some internet controversy....it's not gorey, nor over the top but very very MATURE and unexpected.

I mean to shoot someone in the head see their brains splatter out and fall down realistically is pretty damn mature despite the rating of this game I think everyone can agree one that. And it also packs that "shocking" factor as oppose to say Bo Rai Cho's MKDA fatality where he lands on you and your explode...kind of comical and silly as oppose to Joker's more realistic "blow off your head" fatality in my opinion.

I can tell they're taking MK in a more realistic, darker direction starting with this game. I like that hehe : ) That's how MK 1 and MK2 were(MK2 pardon the friendships)

It'll most likely be rated T due to DC's involvement, however Midway kept their word with their "pushing the envelope" man...that's a bit of an understatement.
 
MKF30-mkdc said:
What a lot of people forget is that the first MK when ported to the Sega and SNES was rated T believe it or not...yet got away with a lot of shit
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Yes, but the SNES version didn't have blood and gore, and the rating for the Genesis version was based on the fact that the blood and arcade fatalities were initially turned off by default. The Sega CD version, which has blood turned on by default, despite being pretty much graphically identical to the Genesis version, has an "MA-17" rating instead of that "MA-13" one. None of the versions of the game that don't require a blood code out of the box have anything less than the equivalent of a mature rating.
 
DeathcoreRyknow said:
Yes, but the SNES version didn't have blood and gore, and the rating for the Genesis version was based on the fact that the blood and arcade fatalities were initially turned off by default. The Sega CD version, which has blood turned on by default, despite being pretty much graphically identical to the Genesis version, has an "MA-17" rating instead of that "MA-13" one. None of the versions of the game that don't require a blood code out of the box have anything less than the equivalent of a mature rating.
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Both versions were rated the same though at that time(MK1), the SNES (MK1) didn't have blood and as much gore due to Nintendo's "anti violent concept at the time" but did still have some of the "arcade fatalities" such as SCorp's, Sonya's to name a few.

Then when MK2+ came out they did them well, MK 1 was the only SNES version to not have everything the arcade versions had. I remember when MK2 and MK3 came out for SNES they were both way better then Sega's version easily. Especially MK2, looked graphically better and owned bigtime : )
 
I had no intention of comparing and contrasting the Sega and Nintendo versions of the MK games, I was only pointing out that the T-equivalent ratings were only for versions of the game that, at least initially, had no gore.
 
Oh yeah I see what you're saying. A big reason why they did that at the time because they felt they weren't gorey enough(until a stink was raised) and also because (at that moment in time) the ESRB wasn't really in huge effect just yet(remember joe liberman made a stink about MK) then once MK2 came out they started taking the ESRB more seriously....

I was only comparing the SNES and Sega versions because for MK 1 especially, more people got it for Sega due to the blood code and gore which the SNES version lacked, but the tables turned once MK2 came out for both where the SNES did very well. I still remember those days wow...fatality friday and mortal monday...lol
 
From my understand of the classification systems, what you push for is what limits you have to meet. It's far easier to get a higher rating, which is a trick used by horror movies as they know the fan base wants the gore, the higher the rating, the better it must be psych psych psych. I think with a T rating that Joker will end up with Classic Sub-Zero's MKT fatality. THAT'D SUCK.
Blood codes are DULLARD. (SIC).
 
I really wish I knew what goes through the ESRB's heads. Because when you get right down to it, how does anybody decide what's "for mature audiences only". I very strongly believe that Oblivion should be rated T. But something like Manhunt, Madworld, or Resident Evil need to be rated M simply for the intense imagery that WILL disturb younger players. Then there are games like Liesure Suit Larry that are just really suggestive. What about Halo though? I think they pushed for an M rating simply to draw in the target audience that might see a T game as "for kids" (damned Xbox fanboys are morons, I know, several of them are friends of mine).

Really it's so hard to pinpoint a set of axioms for determining the rating of a game that as long as there are no strong indications of mature content (see Oblivion/Halo) then you can mark them as Mature or Teen and nobody would make a fuss one way or the other. But if you try and pass off Mortal Kombat Deception as a Teen game with clear indicators like dismemberment and "rewarding violent acts with positive reinforcement" then you will fail.

As it stands MK vs. DCU hasn't shown any CLEAR indications of mature content. The Joker's fatality might be suggestively disturbing and brutal but visually it there's nothing for the ESRB's rigid rules to pin an M rating to. So this way Midway can sneak in what would otherwise be considered "mature" to a normal observer but can be argued to be worthy of a Teen rating when put in front of the ESRB.

Really we won't know until they release the rating in a couple months.
 
Not totally, you see very few games rated "T" have someone shoot someone's brains out literally I mean if you take GTA for example or Halo....clearly M rated games(although Halo shouldn't be doesn't even have that much gore or blood) have way less blood when you shoot someone in the head then Jokers fatality did, if you pause it when he shoots Kitana there's a big blood squirt and the way she falls is a bit disturbing as well and the "concept" is very mature.



Mads said:
From my understand of the classification systems, what you push for is what limits you have to meet. It's far easier to get a higher rating, which is a trick used by horror movies as they know the fan base wants the gore, the higher the rating, the better it must be psych psych psych. I think with a T rating that Joker will end up with Classic Sub-Zero's MKT fatality. THAT'D SUCK.
Blood codes are DULLARD. (SIC).
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I don't believe the Joker will have something like C. Sub in MKT, two different characters entirely and I don't think we'll be seeing any "Black out" screens. We haven't since UMK3/MKT
 
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