newbie1556
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i give jade a 7.5, she doesnt feel special to me but nothing wrong with her either
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Vigilante_FireDragon
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Jade is a 7.5
She has very good mixup especially from her mind games of the Razor-Rang, high-low combo, and her Shadows makes her invulnerable to some attacks, depending on which version you used. Plus, comboing into her X-Ray is very good and damaging in the 40s%. Only weakness is her attacks are somewhat slow, especially her Overhead Staff and can't deal with pressures up close.
She has very good mixup especially from her mind games of the Razor-Rang, high-low combo, and her Shadows makes her invulnerable to some attacks, depending on which version you used. Plus, comboing into her X-Ray is very good and damaging in the 40s%. Only weakness is her attacks are somewhat slow, especially her Overhead Staff and can't deal with pressures up close.
NothingRhymesWithCircus
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Jade.... jeez
Flash Kick has frame advantage on block and leaves her at a distance that she could easily still pack on pressure
EX invincibility is broken as all hell (seriously.....better than a combo breaker.... better than extra damage.... just ridiculous)
good damage
great keep away
longest sweep in the game
reset combos
one of the most mobile characters in the game dashing wise
Jade's potential is so ridiculous that I'm really taken back that you guys are giving her 7s and crap. She is NOT a mixup character. If you're looking for a strong overhead/low game look for another character. Jade's strength is in her control of space, dodging attacks, and EX invincibility. Everyone that I've seen use her just uses her launchers over and over and over..... that's not how she's suppose to be used. Her pokes and flash kick are suppose to setup for her launchers and her EX invincibility is like the ultimate combo start oppurtunity.
Jade: 9.5/10
Flash Kick has frame advantage on block and leaves her at a distance that she could easily still pack on pressure
EX invincibility is broken as all hell (seriously.....better than a combo breaker.... better than extra damage.... just ridiculous)
good damage
great keep away
longest sweep in the game
reset combos
one of the most mobile characters in the game dashing wise
Jade's potential is so ridiculous that I'm really taken back that you guys are giving her 7s and crap. She is NOT a mixup character. If you're looking for a strong overhead/low game look for another character. Jade's strength is in her control of space, dodging attacks, and EX invincibility. Everyone that I've seen use her just uses her launchers over and over and over..... that's not how she's suppose to be used. Her pokes and flash kick are suppose to setup for her launchers and her EX invincibility is like the ultimate combo start oppurtunity.
Jade: 9.5/10
REPTILE 0009
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Yeah but she still has some serious disadvantages to consider.
NothingRhymesWithCircus
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Like who? I wouldn't say Jade has a disadvantage vs absolutely anyone
Teleporters aren't a problem, zoners aren't a problem, rushdown aren't a problem. All strategies vs her fail hard if the Jade player is good.
Sure she doesnt have an amazing get out of pressure free special move like some characters but that just means that you're basic defensive options and general play have to be on point. Vs raiden a flash kick or a 4xxflashkick or a sweep will stuff his teleport(or you could just jump away or overhead smash to dodge him). She could dash around the whole stage for FREE because of her projectile invulnerability. Her backdash and forward dash range is INTENSE, so getting to the sweetspot that you want to abuse at that moment is simple as hell. She could control the battle 100% of the time vs any character and THEY'D have to deal with her bs.
From the way I've seen people play this game I wouldn't be surprised if people didn't think Jade was good vs some characters. But I'm not kidding when I say that in good hands MORE THAN half the cast has a disadvantage vs jade.
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Grew-Wolf
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Ahhh Jade <3
Some moves are safe on block, like U+3. Safe way to approach her opponent (good against zoners).
EX Invincibility is one of the best tools in the game. Good combo potential.
Also, good damage and special attacks.
Good projectile diversity, useful to keep the opponet away. Great control of space.
However, not many mix ups. Overhead staff is slow and punishable as well as some of her attacks (like B+1).
Slow projectiles.
Requires more precision and timing to perform long combos and use some specials effectively, like her invincibility.
Jade= 8.5
Some moves are safe on block, like U+3. Safe way to approach her opponent (good against zoners).
EX Invincibility is one of the best tools in the game. Good combo potential.
Also, good damage and special attacks.
Good projectile diversity, useful to keep the opponet away. Great control of space.
However, not many mix ups. Overhead staff is slow and punishable as well as some of her attacks (like B+1).
Slow projectiles.
Requires more precision and timing to perform long combos and use some specials effectively, like her invincibility.
Jade= 8.5
PrinceNocturne
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Jade: 9/10 for the simple fact that she has some of the best tools in the game to deal with almost any situation. Her only problem is using a lot of meter, and she requires quite a bit of effort to win with compared to some others.
Toxic
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9/10
She has great range with her staff and can deal with almost any situation but limited overhead options.
Her enhanced boomerangs can kill almost any wake up attack (including teleports) and her shadow flash and kick as well as her dashes (which seem faster than other char's) make it very easy for her to close or create distance.
She has great range with her staff and can deal with almost any situation but limited overhead options.
Her enhanced boomerangs can kill almost any wake up attack (including teleports) and her shadow flash and kick as well as her dashes (which seem faster than other char's) make it very easy for her to close or create distance.
3mag5num7
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I haven't seen enough of Jade to accurately offer a number (so I won't), but I agree with Circus, she has insane potential. I think once the game starts coming into it's own and people really start learning characters Jade is gonna go on a rampage in a couple tourneys. She uses a lot of meter and has ok mix-ups at best, but she has SOOOO many tools to really lock opponents out of what they want to do and take utter control over the match that it's scary. I've only played two Jades so far and both of them lost the first round (feeling me out, I suspect), ran me the f--k over the next match, and then overcame my adapting to them the next round and won solidly. Really tough. I may have to come back with some more hard research under my belt and offer my vote just to make sure she gets her due. Jade is the only character that I fear seeing right now lol.
Thirteenthorder
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Cyber Sub-Zero received an average ranking of 8.96! Thank you all for your votes! Please continue to vote for Jade, and remember to vote appropriately and fairly!
Thirteenthorder
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Considering that there are only a small fraction of the roster up I doubt that he'll have the lowest score in the end.
Macros
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Ok, Jade.... I haven't actually played any good Jade players online yet, but what from what I've seen she dominates the long and mid-range game because of glow and her long reach with the staff. Up close, (i.e. when they pass the staff) she has very good footsies to keep them off. The best way to get in on Jade seems to be sweeps and crossup jumps before you start your combo, but if they read that you're in trouble. Characters with slides, dash attacks, jump kick specials, or spin moves probably have an easier time against her. A very solid character overall, and I haven't even mentioned the EX glow move which is just ridiculous. 9.
supershamu
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Jade 7.5
Of course as many have mentioned i think one of jade's best tools is her ability to run through projectiles and armor herself. Her boomerang gives her projectile game some versatility as well as the ability to keep a combo going with her projectile. Overall though i haven't seen too many impressive combos with her and the ones that are require a bar. Doesn't have a huge variety as to where her attacks will hit as well. She is still very solid though. Her dash kick has NO down time, some distance melee attacks with staff, and overall quite fast. The lack of mix up is what gets me about her though. The staff slam doesn't help much because you can see it from a mile away
Of course as many have mentioned i think one of jade's best tools is her ability to run through projectiles and armor herself. Her boomerang gives her projectile game some versatility as well as the ability to keep a combo going with her projectile. Overall though i haven't seen too many impressive combos with her and the ones that are require a bar. Doesn't have a huge variety as to where her attacks will hit as well. She is still very solid though. Her dash kick has NO down time, some distance melee attacks with staff, and overall quite fast. The lack of mix up is what gets me about her though. The staff slam doesn't help much because you can see it from a mile away
Hotaru
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NRWC, i like your post. I think you can figure out a lot of things that most people couldn´t (about Jade). But Jade, in my opinion, doesn´t have a lot a "tools" as you said, and she really has some serious disadvantage.
First of them, she lacks a teleport. Really, maybe this isn´t a big deal, but when she is pressured is so damn hard to get out of the "battle". Indeed, she has the green kick, but is not enough. Besides, zoners like Sindel or Mileena could keep away Jade, and the Jade (like Sonya, IMO) is a character of close kombat.
Second, Jade lack of any air movement. Indeed, she suffer in a great way againts character who has a lot a movement in the air (for example KItana (2 moves), Sonya (2 moves), Sindel (fireball moves), Ermac (teleport and short-distance fireball) and especially against Mileena, the Queen of Air Kombat in MK9 (IMO, again), who has a ridiculous aerial superioity thanks to her telekick and fireball-and the damn instant air sai!).
Third, she has a lot a normal moves that are so ****ing punishable if these moves are blocked. I think she suffer a lot, like Kitana, like characters who can punish in this "disadvantage frames" with normal or especial moves and start a kilometrical combo. Of course, this is my opinion but most of their staff moves are extremely punishable on block.
However, you said, she has a lot of positive things to consider. Their reset combos are fenomenal, but too hard to pull of. I mean, yeah 50% with 2 meters, but there are character with shortest combos and 1 meter (or meterless) can pull of 40% combos in easiest ways. Sure, this dont erase Jade´s ability to reset damage.
Flash kick is great and there is no doubt about that.
The damage is pretty cool, indeed.
But anyway I dont think Jade is one of the best character in the game. In fact, I believe (IMO, again) she is under Mileena, Kitana and Sonya (in that way) and paired with Sindel (IMO, again, not the best character, but maybe because I like characters with close combat pressure, and Sindel lack that kind of fighting style), and maybe worst. I think she is definitely mid-tier.
Anyway, Im gonna give her another chance, maybe I could regret this post later!
But right now I giver Jade a 7.2
Cheers!
First of them, she lacks a teleport. Really, maybe this isn´t a big deal, but when she is pressured is so damn hard to get out of the "battle". Indeed, she has the green kick, but is not enough. Besides, zoners like Sindel or Mileena could keep away Jade, and the Jade (like Sonya, IMO) is a character of close kombat.
Second, Jade lack of any air movement. Indeed, she suffer in a great way againts character who has a lot a movement in the air (for example KItana (2 moves), Sonya (2 moves), Sindel (fireball moves), Ermac (teleport and short-distance fireball) and especially against Mileena, the Queen of Air Kombat in MK9 (IMO, again), who has a ridiculous aerial superioity thanks to her telekick and fireball-and the damn instant air sai!).
Third, she has a lot a normal moves that are so ****ing punishable if these moves are blocked. I think she suffer a lot, like Kitana, like characters who can punish in this "disadvantage frames" with normal or especial moves and start a kilometrical combo. Of course, this is my opinion but most of their staff moves are extremely punishable on block.
However, you said, she has a lot of positive things to consider. Their reset combos are fenomenal, but too hard to pull of. I mean, yeah 50% with 2 meters, but there are character with shortest combos and 1 meter (or meterless) can pull of 40% combos in easiest ways. Sure, this dont erase Jade´s ability to reset damage.
Flash kick is great and there is no doubt about that.
The damage is pretty cool, indeed.
But anyway I dont think Jade is one of the best character in the game. In fact, I believe (IMO, again) she is under Mileena, Kitana and Sonya (in that way) and paired with Sindel (IMO, again, not the best character, but maybe because I like characters with close combat pressure, and Sindel lack that kind of fighting style), and maybe worst. I think she is definitely mid-tier.
Anyway, Im gonna give her another chance, maybe I could regret this post later!
But right now I giver Jade a 7.2
Cheers!
Man Eater
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Oh Jade. I played with her for a while, but that was the really laggy era. She has some great mix ups, and her range is unbelievable. I do like that some of her moves give her launchers at the end and you can end all her combos with her double flash kick, giving you distance that Jade is great at. Her shadow move is awesome as well, and EX gives you armor.
I do find her to be rather slow though, and a lot of her attacks take forever to start up. She's not great in close combat neither. It's all about them pokes. She is a very difficult character to understand. Easy to learn, hard to master.
I'd give her a 8.75
I do find her to be rather slow though, and a lot of her attacks take forever to start up. She's not great in close combat neither. It's all about them pokes. She is a very difficult character to understand. Easy to learn, hard to master.
I'd give her a 8.75
Voncroy
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Oh c'mon. As if not having a teleport or air combat was a "disavantage" per se. I completely disagree with that. Thank lord not every character has teleport by the way. I'm not Jade pro, but she's quite similar to Nightwolf as for that "disanvantage" and when time comes for him to be ranked, I will talk about that. Plus, Sindel is a great match-up for Jade, zoners in general are not at good to fight against Jade. And another thing: very few characters online can actually give me trouble for being FANTASTIC. There are the annoying ones (Kung Lao, Smoke and Raiden), and there are the super fantastic ones like Cyrax or Jade. Whoever plays a very good Jade, it's a damn good fight for you to have. The last fight against this insanely good Jade I lost, Nightwolf was very unresponsive to me and I could not any combos with him 
and he'd jump like 3 seconds later. Pretty weird, I wish I could have been a better opponent.
Jade: 9 - MINIMUM!
Sorry guys, I didn't vote for the rest, but what the heck...
Cyber Sub-Zero: 9
Liu Kang: 7
Sonya Blade: 6
Noob Saibot: 6
Scorpion: 7
I won't talk about them in particular, but these are my votes.
and he'd jump like 3 seconds later. Pretty weird, I wish I could have been a better opponent.Jade: 9 - MINIMUM!
Sorry guys, I didn't vote for the rest, but what the heck...
Cyber Sub-Zero: 9
Liu Kang: 7
Sonya Blade: 6
Noob Saibot: 6
Scorpion: 7
I won't talk about them in particular, but these are my votes.
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Thirteenthorder
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Just letting everyone know, I can't average in votes for past characters because then I'd have to recount everyone's late votes. That's why it's important to check back here often :S