Official TRMK Tier Rankings: YOU Vote!

If you guys could please stick with Thirteen's format, that would be great =)

Rate Scorpion and Scorpion only. That is how he wants it done so he can add up the points.

~Thanks guys =)
 
Jade said:
If you guys could please stick with Thirteen's format, that would be great =)

Rate Scorpion and Scorpion only. That is how he wants it done so he can add up the points.

~Thanks guys =)
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MUCH appreciated Jade. It's just a little tedious and time-consuming to track down 5 people's lists because they didn't want to write just one number. Makes things much easier and organized.

In other news:

Due to popular demand, I'm reducing voting days from 3 to 2. This way things can be moved along much faster and we can have our Tier list all ready and organized. =)

As for Scorpion, I believe a sufficient amount of votes has been gathered. I will calculate his ranking this afternoon and post it. As for now:

A NEW CHARACTER IS AVAILABLE FOR RATING: SONYA BLADE

Cast your votes!
 
I'd probably give Sonya a 6.5. I haven't played as her much, but I do know she's mainly a close-quarters combat character. I'd imagine that she can handle sluggish characters like Sheeva and Sub-Zero very well, but is given a lot of trouble by characters like Shang Tsung, Sindel, Liu Kang, and Mileena.
 
Ok so if I understand correctly, we're scoring characters from 1 to 10 on "how useful/effective said character is" (quoted first post). So that means 5 is not literally the mathematical average. Considering that, I don't think I can give any character less than 5 (since no character is bad or useless in this game). Otherwise, I would have to give Sheeva and Sektor a score of 1 and 2. But like I said MK9 is pretty balanced so there are no C and D tier in this game... anyway that's going to be my reasoning for this.

Sonya: 7

She was an 8.5 pre-patch. But now she lost her block infinites.

I haven't see any good Sonyas so far but I know she has all the tools to be high-mid tier. She got good counters to zoning and her Military stance cancels still allows some nice frame traps and mixups. Sonya is high-mid tier at best though. She seems to have quite a few bad matchups.
 
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Vulcan Hades said:
Ok so if I understand correctly, we're scoring characters from 1 to 10 on "how useful/effective said character is" (quoted first post). So that means 5 is not literally the mathematical average. Considering that, I don't think I can give any character less than 5 (since no character is bad or useless in this game). Otherwise, I would have to give Sheeva and Sektor a score of 1 and 2. But like I said MK9 is pretty balanced so there are no C and D tier in this game... anyway that's going to be my reasoning for this.

Sonya: 7

She was an 8.5 pre-patch. But now she lost her block infinites.

I haven't see any good Sonyas so far but I know she has all the tools to be high-mid tier. She got good counters to zoning and her Military stance cancels still allows some nice frame traps and mixups. Sonya is high-mid tier at best though. She seems to have quite a few bad matchups.
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What are Sonya's worst matchups?
 
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REPTILE 0009 said:
What are Sonya's worst matchups?
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Errr... I'm not an encyclopedia about MK9 lmao. :p

I remember Tom mentioning that Sonya has a hard time closing distance vs Sub. But that was before the very first patch. Like he says, every time a new patch comes out, everything changes. What was a good/bad matchup on patch 1.0 may no longer be the case now. So it's kinda weird to discuss matchups when all characters are still changing.

In a few weeks when we have a final (or stable) version of the game we'll be able to really analyze matchups.
 
Vulcan Hades said:
Errr... I'm not an encyclopedia about MK9 lmao. :p

I remember Tom mentioning that Sonya has a hard time closing distance vs Sub. But that was before the very first patch. Like he says, every time a new patch comes out, everything changes. What was a good/bad matchup on patch 1.0 may no longer be the case now. So it's kinda weird to discuss matchups when all characters are still changing.

In a few weeks when we have a final (or stable) version of the game we'll be able to really analyze matchups.
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Agreed, but this will be a constantly changing WIP.
 
The Ranking for Scorpion is in. Averaged, he received an overall score of 6.46, which I have rounded up to 6.5

Thank you all for your votes! Please continue to vote on Sonya Blade! There is one day left!!
 
I haven't fought many good Sonya players, but RolandGamingHD on youtube shows off a lot of Sonya wrecking people so I know she has potential. The Sonyas I've fought had a lot of trouble safely getting around Sub-Zero's Ice Clones and Ermac's Force Push. She does have a good pressure game if she gets in close. The rounds I've lost to her were because I let her slip by my Clones and such and she really clamped down. She does have some match-ups that can seriously hamstring her rushdown game if they play their cards right so I'll give her a 6/10.
 
I still think it's entertaining to see what people think about certain characters, but once something is put down on paper for some reason people tend to think it's true. I mean we're talking about a video game and not a drug trial or something so who really cares?...but whatever, I'm here, I'm reading this, and I obviously have nothing better to do with my time right now, so I might as well say what's on my mind.

As was just demonstrated a few posts ago, everyone has their own definition of what a 5 is for example - does it mean average, or does it mean bottom of the barrel since no one is worse than a 5? That confusion alone is enough to make the numbers invalid. Not only that, but people who admit to not knowing a character very well are still voting - and their vote will count just as much as someone who is experienced with that character. Not to mention that you'd have to be really good with every character in order to come up with any numbers at all because all characters are essentially being ranked relative to the abilities of each other. And even if you were skilled with every character, your particular playing style would still skew you to favor/dislike certain characters over others for reasons other than true character strength.

I think the only way to even get remotely close to a true tier list would involve the use of computer algorithms averaged in with actual results of experts vs experts. But in the end it's the matchups that really matter anyway.

No doubt that some people are going to look at the final tier list and feel bad about where their character is ranked or avoid playing certain characters altogether.
 
Sonya has an AMAZZZZZZZZZINGLY strong mixup and pressure game. She could scare you into thinking she is going to divekick and instead get a free jump in. Divekick combo just does a smidge less than 40%. She could mixup from any blocked/hit normal. She's just flat out awesome when it comes to her offense.

In certain matchups though, keeping Sonya in close range is fairly difficult versus a skilled opponent. This and in some matchups her Divekick/Normal JumpIn mixup is totally unviable(like versus Kung Lao's Spin which stuffs both options).

Overall shes an incredible character that does ridiculous amounts of dmg very quickly and when she gets momentum she doesn't stop. Due to some of her matchups though I'd give her:

6/10
 
aj327 said:
I still think it's entertaining to see what people think about certain characters, but once something is put down on paper for some reason people tend to think it's true. I mean we're talking about a video game and not a drug trial or something so who really cares?...but whatever, I'm here, I'm reading this, and I obviously have nothing better to do with my time right now, so I might as well say what's on my mind.

As was just demonstrated a few posts ago, everyone has their own definition of what a 5 is for example - does it mean average, or does it mean bottom of the barrel since no one is worse than a 5? That confusion alone is enough to make the numbers invalid. Not only that, but people who admit to not knowing a character very well are still voting - and their vote will count just as much as someone who is experienced with that character. Not to mention that you'd have to be really good with every character in order to come up with any numbers at all because all characters are essentially being ranked relative to the abilities of each other. And even if you were skilled with every character, your particular playing style would still skew you to favor/dislike certain characters over others for reasons other than true character strength.

I think the only way to even get remotely close to a true tier list would involve the use of computer algorithms averaged in with actual results of experts vs experts. But in the end it's the matchups that really matter anyway.

No doubt that some people are going to look at the final tier list and feel bad about where their character is ranked or avoid playing certain characters altogether.
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This tier list is going to be built around the strategic opinions of the community. I'm not trying to make it the most technologically concise list ever made. I'm making this BY TRMK FOR TRMK. I'm sorry if you find it flawed but you don't have to participate if you find it invalid.
 
Thirteenthorder said:
This tier list is going to be built around the strategic opinions of the community. I'm not trying to make it the most technologically concise list ever made. I'm making this BY TRMK FOR TRMK. I'm sorry if you find it flawed but you don't have to participate if you find it invalid.
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I'm just talking. not at all trying to be offensive.
 
sonya is good at long distances but if u know when and how she is good at closing distance with here jump kick or kiss of death.

imo
7.5 noob
8.0 advance player
8.0 tourny players
 
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