Next Gen MK game

[Gurimmjaw]

Yeah bosses should be playable. Still though, I'd have the dead characters out in MK10 and bring them back in the MK after. The boss characters that can be playable are Goro, Kintaro, Shinnok, and and other bosses that will be in MK10 (not Shang Tsung and Shao Kahn because those 2 need a break).

Hopefully they make them playable in the next MK game as a lot of people want to play as them. I think Shang Tsung should still be in the game at least. Hopefully they add some new characters and introduce some of the good 3D MK characters like Bo Rai Cho, Sareena, Ashrah, Li Mei, and Kira. Mr Ken Masters wannabe and Darrius can stay out lol.

But maybe Shao Kahn need a break from a game but not Shang Tsung. If that case Sub Zero should too then.

Bosses playable? What?? NO -_-. They're gonna be so OP. And if they're not OP, they're gonna be a weakass boss. No one wants a weak boss for MK.

Why not? A lot of people like the bosses. They can easily tone the bosses down when playable against another person. If SF can make bosses playable why can't MK? Shao Kahn and Goro are some of the most interesting MK characters in the whole MK universe.

Just because they get toned down don't mean they will be weak or anything. They still can be strong when you play AI.

 

[Kurtis Stryker]

It's not MK Trilogy's fault; it is fanaticism for MUGEN-type games. Some folks don't really live in the real world, and just want MUGEN stuff all day. There's plenty of MUGEN out there.

My ideal MK X:

Main Roster
Kung Lao
Scorpion
Sub-Zero (Human, Unmasked, Younger Zero)
Jax
Sonya
Nightwolf
Sektor
Cyborg Smoke
Reiko
Fujin
Mavado
Bo' Rai Cho
Skarlet
Li Mei
Frost
Tanya
Shujinko
Hotaru
Dairou
Ashrah
Kenshi
Sindel
Sareena
Shinnok (Boss)
Motaro (Sub-Boss)


DLC and/or Krypt Unlockable
Johnny Cage
Baraka
Jarek
Cyrax
Raiden
Liu Kang
Kitana
Noob Saibot


I don't remember, or care to remember, who from the main roster died in MK9. I all but ignored and forgot the game's story. But, give Kung Lao, Shujinko, Fujin and younger Sub the ball, and let them run with it.

 

[Aldo Moreno]

Why not? A lot of people like the bosses. They can easily tone the bosses down when playable against another person. If SF can make bosses playable why can't MK? Shao Kahn and Goro are some of the most interesting MK characters in the whole MK universe.

Just because they get toned down don't mean they will be weak or anything. They still can be strong when you play AI.

Well, for one, this is Mortal Kombat, not Street Fighter.

Mortal Kombat has always been known for having strong bosses. Bosses that could piss you off so keep putting in money. MK has bosses with the cheapest moves ever. I could not picture Shao Kahn or Goro doing regular damage to someone or having regular moves instead of those cheap bosses. I know they were playable for Trilogy and MKA but that was because they had to be playable. Everyone had to be. And MKD gamecube they were exclusive so I understand that.. If they're DLC, then I don't mind.

 

[Gurimmjaw]

Well, for one, this is Mortal Kombat, not Street Fighter.

Mortal Kombat has always been known for having strong bosses. Bosses that could piss you off so keep putting in money. MK has bosses with the cheapest moves ever. I could not picture Shao Kahn or Goro doing regular damage to someone or having regular moves instead of those cheap bosses. I know they were playable for Trilogy and MKA but that was because they had to be playable. Everyone had to be. And MKD gamecube they were exclusive so I understand that.. If they're DLC, then I don't mind.

I know that but just was giving an example.

They could still do heavy damage but when controlled by human they are toned down. I know MK is known for having cheap bosses. And Shao Kahn made me pissed off back in the day with bs knee charge, up charge, and hammer. Just saying maybe they could be playable. At least Shao Kahn. Me wanting them playable has nothing to do with them being playable in MKT, MKD, and MKA.

 

[TAZZMISSION]

DC have been around 80 years, I fail to see your point.

i think right now with wb owning nrs they have a golden oppertunity right now to make some great comic book games

if you think back to the dc fan base they have 80 years worth of fans wile mk has 20 to 22 years total

who do you think is going to win that one?

also with the way comic movies are being cranked out it be a smart buisness move for dc and nrs. and honestly what kind of tv or movie series does mk have currently? a web series that starts in september thats it.

again like i said i love mk but isnt there a part of you that agrees it needs to stop before it becomes another franchise being milked every year like cod, nba 2k w/e ect ect? alot of publishers are making there franchises a yearly release now and they just did it with assassins creed ( wich i love) but 1 game a year? cmon thats over kill

mk 2011 is hands down the best mk to date imo and i think they should stay with that

 

[Commander]

It's not MK Trilogy's fault; it is fanaticism for MUGEN-type games. Some folks don't really live in the real world, and just want MUGEN stuff all day. There's plenty of MUGEN out there.

Trilogy was the first game to have playable bosses in MK, so yeah, Trilogy is mainly to blame for that crap.
Sure, MUGEN came afterwards and can also be attributed to it, but what started the whole dumb "playable bosses" mentality in the MK universe was MK: Trilogy.

again like i said i love mk but isnt there a part of you that agrees it needs to stop before it becomes another franchise being milked every year like cod, nba 2k w/e ect ect? alot of publishers are making there franchises a yearly release now and they just did it with assassins creed ( wich i love) but 1 game a year? cmon thats over kill

mk 2011 is hands down the best mk to date imo and i think they should stay with that

MK9 came out 2 years ago.
By the time that NRS finishes doing an MK10 game (assuming they start production on it after all the Injustice DLC) it will probably come out in either late 2014 or early 2015.
That's 3 to 4 years in between Mortal Kombat games, and is NOT overkill.
3 to 4 years in between sequels is pretty standard for games.

MK 2011 was great. Agreed,
MK2011 was also left on a cliff-hanger ending, with more than half of the roster being dead.
An MK10 sequel in the next year or 2 would be nice.

 

[Gurimmjaw]

i think right now with wb owning nrs they have a golden oppertunity right now to make some great comic book games

if you think back to the dc fan base they have 80 years worth of fans wile mk has 20 to 22 years total

who do you think is going to win that one?

also with the way comic movies are being cranked out it be a smart buisness move for dc and nrs. and honestly what kind of tv or movie series does mk have currently? a web series that starts in september thats it.

again like i said i love mk but isnt there a part of you that agrees it needs to stop before it becomes another franchise being milked every year like cod, nba 2k w/e ect ect? alot of publishers are making there franchises a yearly release now and they just did it with assassins creed ( wich i love) but 1 game a year? cmon thats over kill

mk 2011 is hands down the best mk to date imo and i think they should stay with that

the comparison between and MK and DC silly considering DC has over 80 years and MK has 20 or so years so that really unfair. Compare DC to something like Marvel and DC falls behind them.

While MK only a web series going right now there is a MK reboot movie being made.

And why should MK stop? A MK game comes out every 2.5-3 years. Should Final Fantasy stop making games? Should Tekken stop? Should Street Fighter stop? Should DoA stop? No so MK shouldn't stop either and it a top seller too and makes lots of money. I much rather have a MK game than a DC game. If anything non MK related they should take on a horror game or something.

 

[Gouki]

the comparison between and MK and DC silly considering DC has over 80 years and MK has 20 or so years so that really unfair. Compare DC to something like Marvel and DC falls behind them.

While MK only a web series going right now there is a MK reboot movie being made.

And why should MK stop? A MK game comes out every 2.5-3 years. Should Final Fantasy stop making games? Should Tekken stop? Should Street Fighter stop? Should DoA stop? No so MK shouldn't stop either and it a top seller too and makes lots of money. I much rather have a MK game than a DC game. If anything non MK related they should take on a horror game or something.

You're right about MK, DC, and Marvel and the comparison.

"Why Should MK stop?" Someone said the same thing about the Friday the 13th films, as well as the Freddy films and all other GORY franchises, and you know what has become of those franchises...? Basically Crap being spat out every so often to keep the franchise going for the fans who want Jason4ever!, and lets no forget, MONEY.

And honestly, You cant compare MK to other games with totally different stories and settings. FF may have a reason to keep going storywise, they may not be done telling their story, whereas MK has pretty much told its entire story, to where now they are retelling it and changing some things(things fans already dont like, and yet they are the ones who want MK '4EVER'.

Here is why MK needs to stop eventually:

1) The whole story has already been told. MK9 is retelling the first half, arguably the most popular half.
2) In order to Keep MK alive as with any series, you need to keep it fresh/new and interesting(i e; New chars, new plots, etc) which brings us to point 3.

3) the MK creators can't create NEW interesting chars(hero or villain) or plots to save their lives...and that is a MAJOR problem. I suppose you could always retell the same story...but even tha will become "Jaded"
4) Fans don't want to let go of the old klassic chars...instead want to play as Scorp, Sub Zero and Liu Kang until they themselves are older and duller than the chars they have been playing as for the past 55 years. (wait, MK has lasted THAT long?)

and with that said, MK4EVER!!!!

 

[Nasty_Freak]

You're right about MK, DC, and Marvel and the comparison.

"Why Should MK stop?" Someone said the same thing about the Friday the 13th films, as well as the Freddy films and all other GORY franchises, and you know what has become of those franchises...? Basically Crap being spat out every so often to keep the franchise going for the fans who want Jason4ever!, and lets no forget, MONEY.

And honestly, You cant compare MK to other games with totally different stories and settings. FF may have a reason to keep going storywise, they may not be done telling their story, whereas MK has pretty much told its entire story, to where now they are retelling it and changing some things(things fans already dont like, and yet they are the ones who want MK '4EVER'.

Here is why MK needs to stop eventually:

1) The whole story has already been told. MK9 is retelling the first half, arguably the most popular half.
2) In order to Keep MK alive as with any series, you need to keep it fresh/new and interesting(i e; New chars, new plots, etc) which brings us to point 3.

3) the MK creators can't create NEW interesting chars(hero or villain) or plots to save their lives...and that is a MAJOR problem. I suppose you could always retell the same story...but even tha will become "Jaded"
4) Fans don't want to let go of the old klassic chars...instead want to play as Scorp, Sub Zero and Liu Kang until they themselves are older and duller than the chars they have been playing as for the past 55 years. (wait, MK has lasted THAT long?)

and with that said, MK4EVER!!!!

That's why MKX will be the game that will give post MKT characters to shine.

 

[Gouki]

That's why MKX will be the game that will give post MKT characters to shine.

providing the light be bright enough to overcome the ever darkening shadow of failure that currently conceals it...

 

[Commander]

providing the light be bright enough to overcome the ever darkening shadow of failure that currently conceals it...

I don't see what you mean by "the ever darkening shadow of failure that currently conceals it."
Why would it fail, story-wise?
Because of the characters that got killed off in MK9?
Aside from maybe a handful (3 or 4) of the MK9 cast that should be revived for MK10, the others don't really NEED to come back.

Also, there's more roster space available to allow for MK4 thru MK characters on the roster.
Just because the post MK3 era wasn't a popular as the MK1 thru UMK3 era, doesn't mean that it will fail either.
Not to mention, this is also a good chance for NRS to show that Shinnok can be a legitimate badass boss and not some push-over like he was in MK4.

 

[Gouki]

I don't see what you mean by "the ever darkening shadow of failure that currently conceals it."
Why would it fail, story-wise?
Because of the characters that got killed off in MK9?
Aside from maybe a handful (3 or 4) of the MK9 cast that should be revived for MK10, the others don't really NEED to come back.

Also, there's more roster space available to allow for MK4 thru MK characters on the roster.
Just because the post MK3 era wasn't a popular as the MK1 thru UMK3 era, doesn't mean that it will fail either.
Not to mention, this is also a good chance for NRS to show that Shinnok can be a legitimate badass boss and not some push-over like he was in MK4.

I refer to the "Post MKT chars shine" part Nasty said. Most of those chars were(and continue to be) full of FAIL aka 'ever darkening shadow that conceals their "shining light".
I was not referring to the next game as a whole, nor its story. MKX may yet prove itself a Marvel, despite the odds.

Roster space and who occupies it is not what concerns me Commander... MK has well satisfied me with a balanced number of chars on their rosters of past and present. I would see it so for the future...how ever long that may be.

and I agree 100%; most of MK9's roster does NOT need to come back.

 

[Dedamn666]

Was thinking about this, I really would be happy if they just fixed MK9's balance issues, improved online and added new skins.I had so much fun with MK9 and the game is too good to deny it some love. I would pay full price for it.

I miss all the hype on here till when it came out and all the hype after, it was a brilliant nostalgia trip. Was hoping for some of the same with Injustice, but it was a let down for myself.

I just want some more Mortal Kombat.

 

[Gouki]

Was thinking about this, I really would be happy if they just fixed MK9's balance issues, improved online and added new skins.I had so much fun with MK9 and the game is too good to deny it some love. I would pay full price for it.

I miss all the hype on hear till when it came out and all the hype after, it was a brilliant nostalgia trip. Was hoping for some of the same with Injustice, but it was a let down for myself.

I just want some more Mortal Kombat.

Honestly I dont see why they didnt continue along the DLC and Alt skins route myself. I favored that.

 

[Commander]

Was thinking about this, I really would be happy if they just fixed MK9's balance issues, improved online and added new skins.I had so much fun with MK9 and the game is too good to deny it some love. I would pay full price for it.

I miss all the hype on hear till when it came out and all the hype after, it was a brilliant nostalgia trip. Was hoping for some of the same with Injustice, but it was a let down for myself.

I just want some more Mortal Kombat.

The only thing I wanted was a few extra non-ninja MK1 costumes and DLC fatalities for MK9, but it won't happen.
NRS is way beyond that stage.
Maybe we can get some other non-ninja DLC costumes for MK10.

 

[Gouki]

The only thing I wanted was a few extra non-ninja MK1 costumes and DLC fatalities for MK9, but it won't happen.
NRS is way beyond that stage.
Maybe we can get some other non-ninja DLC costumes for MK10.

They had best go ALL OUT with skins and DLC for MK:X

 

[Gurimmjaw]

You're right about MK, DC, and Marvel and the comparison.

"Why Should MK stop?" Someone said the same thing about the Friday the 13th films, as well as the Freddy films and all other GORY franchises, and you know what has become of those franchises...? Basically Crap being spat out every so often to keep the franchise going for the fans who want Jason4ever!, and lets no forget, MONEY.

And honestly, You cant compare MK to other games with totally different stories and settings. FF may have a reason to keep going storywise, they may not be done telling their story, whereas MK has pretty much told its entire story, to where now they are retelling it and changing some things(things fans already dont like, and yet they are the ones who want MK '4EVER'.

Here is why MK needs to stop eventually:

1) The whole story has already been told. MK9 is retelling the first half, arguably the most popular half.
2) In order to Keep MK alive as with any series, you need to keep it fresh/new and interesting(i e; New chars, new plots, etc) which brings us to point 3.

3) the MK creators can't create NEW interesting chars(hero or villain) or plots to save their lives...and that is a MAJOR problem. I suppose you could always retell the same story...but even tha will become "Jaded"
4) Fans don't want to let go of the old klassic chars...instead want to play as Scorp, Sub Zero and Liu Kang until they themselves are older and duller than the chars they have been playing as for the past 55 years. (wait, MK has lasted THAT long?)

and with that said, MK4EVER!!!!

The difference in that is movies revolve mainly around story. Games revolve mostly around gameplay. A story can be crap but gameplay can be great and it will still be a decent game.

However me comparing to Final Fantasy is a bit off since they both different genre's though still remains with the others. Tekken and MK are both fighting games. Most people don't really care for story. It all about the gameplay in the end and what it offers.

Now with future MK games they could do something interesting by making the MK games focus mainly on Shinnok as the main boss instead of Shao Kahn now.

The MK team have made horrible characters in the past like a lot of 3D MK characters and Stryker and Sheeva, but they could do many things with the plot and characters.

 

[Nasty_Freak]

providing the light be bright enough to overcome the ever darkening shadow of failure that currently conceals it...

AGREED! Where's the thanks button for the iPhone version of this thread btw? Lol

There are so many characters that can still be revamped.

Nitara can use her wings to fly around the room, use claws to attack, and even morph as a bat to finish off the opponent in a fatality.

Li Mei can be like a Chinese martial artist and use a sword like Xianghua (Soul Calibur).

Sareena should have her Kamas back as a weapon and should be able to turn into a demon.

Tanya should have her Kobu Jutsu tonfa blades as well as her signature special moves. One if her fatalities should involve her stomping on the victim's crotch while ripping off his legs with her hands at the same time.

Mavado should have the sword and dagger weapons like Hernan Cortes and leave the hookswords for Kabal. He should keep the grapple hooks though.

Jataaka could do a lot with that one sword of hers especially since she could shoot energy out of that blade.

Kia may only have that throwing blade as a weapon but creators should be able to come up with agile moves for her.

Reiko can keep the shuriken moves as well as a hammer. He should be similar to Kahn.

 

[Gouki]

The difference in that is movies revolve mainly around story. Games revolve mostly around gameplay. A story can be crap but gameplay can be great and it will still be a decent game.

However me comparing to Final Fantasy is a bit off since they both different genre's though still remains with the others. Tekken and MK are both fighting games. Most people don't really care for story. It all about the gameplay in the end and what it offers.

Now with future MK games they could do something interesting by making the MK games focus mainly on Shinnok as the main boss instead of Shao Kahn now.

The MK team have made horrible characters in the past like a lot of 3D MK characters and Stryker and Sheeva, but they could do many things with the plot and characters.

yes, but I said the 'horror franchise' because the story actually does not matter for it, its the Gore and the new creative kills that jason and freddy can come up with, seeing naked teens sexing and something about seeing them naked and slaughtered in the woods or in a shed, that keeps the fans in horror franchises. It not the stories at ALL, Lol

and that gore that keeps the fan coming and sexuality(though not to that extent) seems alittle familiar...

But with MK, I believe the gameplay and story hold equal footing. MK has a distinction of being one of those fighting games with an actually compelling story(one of the reasons why it made a decent movie in the 90s, the first one anyway) and one of the reason why i believe it should end soon, so a NEW generation can spawn.

SF does not have that compelling storyline(and their live action movies sucks, but the SF animes are GREAT!) and tekken kinda does, or it did. Im actually one of those guys who care equally about story and gameplay.


in regards to Shinnok; Would that his char be improved in such a way... guess we'll find out in MK:X

NRS has yet to show me good interesting chars(save a very small sum) past MKT. And plot wise, well 'going back in time' route did not exactly give rise my c***...(in a manner of speaking).

 

[Gurimmjaw]

yes, but I said the 'horror franchise' because the story actually does not matter for it, its the Gore and the new creative kills that jason and freddy can come up with, seeing naked teens sexing and something about seeing them naked and slaughtered in the woods or in a shed, that keeps the fans in horror franchises. It not the stories at ALL, Lol

and that gore that keeps the fan coming and sexuality(though not to that extent) seems alittle familiar...

But with MK, I believe the gameplay and story hold equal footing. MK has a distinction of being one of those fighting games with an actually compelling story(one of the reasons why it made a decent movie in the 90s, the first one anyway) and one of the reason why i believe it should end soon, so a NEW generation can spawn.

SF does not have that compelling storyline(and their live action movies sucks, but the SF animes are GREAT!) and tekken kinda does, or it did. Im actually one of those guys who care equally about story and gameplay.


in regards to Shinnok; Would that his char be improved in such a way... guess we'll find out in MK:X

NRS has yet to show me good interesting chars(save a very small sum) past MKT. And plot wise, well 'going back in time' route did not exactly give rise my c***...(in a manner of speaking).

Well thats basically common in them type of movies. Some teens go out on some trip whether it camping or something else, and in night they hear creepy noises, they check it out, and they get slashed with creepy music playing. So I guess you can say it about the gore mainly.

Mortal Kombat has a good story line and gameplay (excluding MKA and MKvsDC). Though I don't think it should end right now it has a good life span and top seller. Maybe around a decade or so. The old school fighting games are just more interesting than the new ones. MK, SF, Tekken, and DoA are probably the most interesting. MK10 I do hope to be good and interesting.

SF has a good storyline IMO along with Tekken which on par with MK's. I do like the story in games but I think gameplay is what should matter the most of all.

I think with Shinnok they should make him more convincing of a villain and not be some type of joke this time around like he was in MK4.

Well Quan Chi and Shinnok are past MK and to be honest they are more interesting than the new characters in MKT. Stryker and Sheeva are horrible MK characters.