Mortal Kombat XL available March 1st

[mandead]

They will be available to buy separately at some point ala Kold War Scorpion.

If you already own MKX + KP1 and are planning on getting KP2, there is obviously no need to buy MKXL. It's just for new players or people wanting replacement copies (moving to a new console, etc.) There won't be anything in it that you don't already have or can't get with KP2.

 

[Commander]

of course it is, let me just turn my sarcasm mode on...
say if nrs did something right like release a good game on a platform, no matter if the actual porting work was done by a 3rd party
you'd be shitting your pants from excitement, praising nrs left and right while pre-ordering kp4s and kp5s no questions asked

but as soon as they do something very wrong, it's NOT their fault, everyone else is at fault: the 3rd party, the publisher, the platform, the customer...but not boon & his crew. never!!!11!1!1

do you reckon they'll use the "poor pc sales" excuse again with their next game? because the answer is obvious as to why it's "poor"

There's your issue again, assuming that NRS is the one who releases stuff and are the ones responsible for porting stuff.
Wrong.
Aside from the X1 and PS4 versions which NRS said that they are directly working on, NRS has nothing to do with the game after is leaves their hands to have the port done.
That's the job of WB, NOT NRS.

The point that is flying over your head is that even if "Boon & his crew" wanted to have the stuff available to PC players (which I don't see why they wouldn't, as it's more revenue), if WB says NO then the answer is no.
Plain and simple.
NRS has no say so WHATSOEVER, as to what gets ported and doesn't get ported.

The answer as to why the PC version is shitty is because High Voltage did a shitty job of doing the port.
Again, it has nothing to do with NRS, but you're getting all pissed off at NRS, when you should be pissed off at WB & High Voltage.

What's more annoying than anything is that people petition for all sorts of stupid shit, like Tremor, but when it comes to having a good netcode or having a great PC port, people like to b**** and moan and "hope" that it gets fixed.
That just about grinds my gears the most with the MK Kommunity.
Let's petition the small and petty shit, but ignore the stuff that really matters, regarding these games. Smdh. :roll:

Some people just dont understand that...
Even people who are mad about who made the cut for kombat pack 1 and 2... they dont realise that it was WB who got the final say. Im actually glad that WB demanded that Predator, Jason, Leatherface and Alien make it in. Hope to see either T-800, Spawn, T-1000, Sweet Tooth, Neo, Agent Smith, Pin Head, Micheal Myers, or Ash..... AND a Sarah Connor DLC skin for Sonya Blade in MK11. Also I wish that Freddy made the cut one more time in MKX so we could have a Freddy vs. Jason battle..that would be EPIC

Yes, exactly.
NRS has no final say on KP2 or anything that goes on with their games anymore.
Ever since WB bought Midway and became the owners of NRS, WB has final say on what goes on.
Some people just don't understand how business works, though.

So I would have to preorder MKXL to get the female ninja skins? Seems kind of silly to me when the whole point of the "complete edition" is to have everything available from the start.

No.
Much like the Brazil and Kold War skin packs, I'm pretty sure that you'll be able to purchase them separately on the PSN and Live store without a problem.
They'll probably be exclusive to KP and XL pre-orders for a while, then they'll be available for everyone to download, much like Goro was when MKX first dropped.
Available to everyone who pre-orders for free, later available to everyone else for a price.





EDIT:

I'm sorry to say this, dude, but I really doubt that these things are intended to be insults to said character's fans. I think you're jumping the gun with those assumptions.

Fujin and Frost both had awesome moments in the story. Were those middle fingers? (No) Those cameos were there to please those fans. The second best thing to having them playable characters. I shriek like a girl everytime I see Kabal in the story.

I mean this with all due respect. I don't like seeing people taking things that hard.

Now Boon declaring that Drahmin would never be in MK again is a middle finger to his fans. Even then, its best to shrug it off or you could try petitioning and complaining (it is what it is, I complain too) else where to bring your displeasure to their attention. I feel, it should of been Fujin rather than Tremor. Do what the Tremor fans did and you'll get Fujin in MK11, seeing as how MKX is now complete.

That's the thing about opinions, though.
To me, it does come off as an insult to said character's fans, whereas to you and [MENTION=16500]Kitty_55[/MENTION] it doesn't.

Fujin and Frost both did have their moments, but Fujin isn't being trolled around with a costume for Raiden (for example).
It does seem that Frost is being trolled around more with her cameo and Cassie getting a "female Lin Kuei" costume.
I'm not saying that there's anything wrong with cameos, but it's that extra bit of trolling on said characters that seems to be more of a dick-ish move, imo.
Had Boon (or the dev who worked on Cassie's Fatality) not gone an extra step to put in the "Has anyone found Fujin yet" message, then I would have just been like "Oh, well whatever, maybe he'll show up in the next game," and just left it at that.
But no, they had to twist the knife a little more.

See, again, this is where opinions differ.
If Boon had said that Fujin was to never appear again, then I'd be like "Ok, cool, at least I now know not to expect him, and he isn't toying around with people's expectations in a dick-ish manner."
Sure, it would suck, but I'd be able to move on, rather than being kept wondering if he'll ever appear, because Boon like to mess with people's feeling and give them false hopes.
No matter how much I or anyone else petitions for it, if Boon hates the character like he hated Hsu Hao, then he won't be in regardless.
If he's (or any other character) is not going to ever appear, then I'd rather Boon just put him or any other character on the "de-confirmed" list and be done with it.

 

[BassCase26]

I've been waiting for the mobile skins to be sold but it looks like that's not happening .

 

[mandead]

I've been waiting for the mobile skins to be sold but it looks like that's not happening .

Not separately, no, but they're in MK XL. You can see Injustice Scorpion on the trailer.

The only unlockable one I need is Revenant Jax, because I don't have a second controller.

 

[rami]

Why would people wanna buy the mkxl. Just buy kp2, it would be cheaper

 

[Commander]

Why would people wanna buy the mkxl. Just buy kp2, it would be cheaper

That's the point.
MKXL isn't meant for people who already have MKX.
MKXL is likely for those who don't have MKX yet.
You know, the people who wanted to wait to get all the DLC in 1 complete package.

 

[Xenon]

There's your issue again, assuming that NRS is the one who releases stuff and are the ones responsible for porting stuff.

Of course it is my issue, not your issue of terrible reading comprehension. Check this out. You type about me assuming that NRS "releases stuff", going as far as embolden text, but completely ignore the rest of the sentence which says "no matter if the actual porting work was done by a 3rd party".

That's strike one.

Aside from the X1 and PS4 versions which NRS said that they are directly working on, NRS has nothing to do with the game after is leaves their hands to have the port done.
That's the job of WB, NOT NRS.

Of course. I mean NRS were just itching themselves to death because they weren't the ones building the PC version inhouse. No it's all about the big mean WB dictating what NRS can and cannot do.

The point that is flying over your head is that even if "Boon & his crew" wanted to have the stuff available to PC players (which I don't see why they wouldn't, as it's more revenue), if WB says NO then the answer is no.

Of course. I mean it's not like Boon himself came out and literally lied through his teeth that PC version = Console version? Big bad WB with their corporate money grabbing schemes at it again.

Plain and simple.

Indeed. That's three strikes already.

NRS has no say so WHATSOEVER, as to what gets ported and doesn't get ported.

Of course they don't. Let's say I'm your boss and you're my employee. I tell you to go and eat shit. You don't have any say in that, do you? Or how about I tell you to go and unload all over a customer's face. Do you honestly expect to be completely free of all blame just because your boss told you to do something?

No. NRS deserves as much of the blame as WB/3rd party developer does.

The answer as to why the PC version is shitty is because High Voltage did a shitty job of doing the port.

And NRS did absolutely nothing to make sure the PC version isn't shitty, yet Boon...ah whatever, I think you see where I'm going with this. Let me guess, that's all WB's fault as well?

Again, it has nothing to do with NRS, but you're getting all pissed off at NRS, when you should be pissed off at WB & High Voltage.

What has NRS done to make sure that PC version is "as good as the consoles"? They didn't even try from what I can see. For example, the communication was all screwed up. No confirmations, all broken promises. No denials, all radio silence. It even took the customers to use SteamDB to find that Q-Loc has taken over HVS work. NRS didn't say a word about it other than some time later on when asked about it.

But Boon at least "promised" a "just as good as...".....

What's more annoying than anything is that people petition for all sorts of stupid shit, like Tremor, but when it comes to having a good netcode or having a great PC port, people like to b**** and moan and "hope" that it gets fixed.
That just about grinds my gears the most with the MK Kommunity.
Let's petition the small and petty shit, but ignore the stuff that really matters, regarding these games. Smdh. :roll:

I don't believe in petitions and I don't sign them. They (WB AND NRS) have lost me as a customer. I can't speak about others but considering just how much shit both WB and NRS are getting these past days...Sounds pretty accurate.

Here's a TLR; if the blame cannot be passed on NRS, then they simply do not deserve to earn a single penny from PC sales since "they are not developing it". Then it also confirms that their brand is pure shit since
a) no quality control
b) no security in knowing that you buy a product that will get treated the same as on consoles (Boon'd)
c) they share the bed with WB

Maybe it was a good idea to not put their logos all over MK Egg$$$ PC after all...

 

[vetalfox]

That's the point.
MKXL isn't meant for people who already have MKX.
MKXL is likely for those who don't have MKX yet.
You know, the people who wanted to wait to get all the DLC in 1 complete package.

Honestly, MKXL smells more like one of these Hyper Ultra Super Street Fighter 4s, than anything else

 

[Commander]

Of course it is my issue, not your issue of terrible reading comprehension. Check this out. You type about me assuming that NRS "releases stuff", going as far as embolden text, but completely ignore the rest of the sentence which says "no matter if the actual porting work was done by a 3rd party".

That's strike one.

It's not reading comprehension.
It's you not understanding how business works.

Of course. I mean NRS were just itching themselves to death because they weren't the ones building the PC version inhouse. No it's all about the big mean WB dictating what NRS can and cannot do.



Of course. I mean it's not like Boon himself came out and literally lied through his teeth that PC version = Console version? Big bad WB with their corporate money grabbing schemes at it again.

Despite you sarcasm, yes, WB dictates what happens with the port, and given that HVS did such a shitty job on the PC, port, to begin with (which NRS patched and tried to fix, btw), WB likely didn't want to take another chance with HVS touching it again and having another PC disaster on their hands.
I'm not condoning how they treated PC players, but unfortunately that's how business works in the real world.

Of course they don't. Let's say I'm your boss and you're my employee. I tell you to go and eat shit. You don't have any say in that, do you? Or how about I tell you to go and unload all over a customer's face. Do you honestly expect to be completely free of all blame just because your boss told you to do something?

No. NRS deserves as much of the blame as WB/3rd party developer does.

Way to take something to the extreme, as per the usual Internet comments section reply. :roll:
Fyi, there are criminal actions that the boss would be responsible for trying to make the employee do something like in your extreme example.
For example, WB says to NRS "Just make the game and we'll port it" and they do make the game, then what WB does with it afterward is not their responsibility.
It's more than likely that NRS said something similar to WB as "Please port it so that we can have it available to all fans" (which I'm sure is what NRS would want in order not to alienate fans).
If at the end of the day WB still says "No, because the High Voltage fiasco cost us a ton of sales" then that's the final word.
Unfortunately, NRS doesn't have the final word or ports, despite them still having to do the patches for the PC version of the game, as well.
3rd party developer ports are not part of what NRS does.
I suppose that you also think that NRS is also responsible for the crap that happened with the MK HD Kollection, despite Other Ocean Interactive being the ones who dropped the ball???

And NRS did absolutely nothing to make sure the PC version isn't shitty, yet Boon...ah whatever, I think you see where I'm going with this. Let me guess, that's all WB's fault as well?

No.
The netcode and actual fixes are NRS responsibility, but the actual process of porting the game is not NRS responsibility.
Didn't NRS end up fixing the PC version, though?
I know that it was a month or 2 late, but I could have sworn that they did try to patch / fix it.

What has NRS done to make sure that PC version is "as good as the consoles"? They didn't even try from what I can see. For example, the communication was all screwed up. No confirmations, all broken promises. No denials, all radio silence. It even took the customers to use SteamDB to find that Q-Loc has taken over HVS work. NRS didn't say a word about it other than some time later on when asked about it.

But Boon at least "promised" a "just as good as...".....

Well, I'll give you that.
Boon should have promised anything being "just as good as....," to begin with, given that NRS weren't the ones porting the PC version.
And, yes, I agree that the communication should have been better between NRS / Ed and the fans, but the fact of the matter remains that decisions like who ports what game is up to WB.
The hotfixes and patches were for NRS to fix, but the original garbage port was not because of them.

I don't believe in petitions and I don't sign them. They (WB AND NRS) have lost me as a customer. I can't speak about others but considering just how much shit both WB and NRS are getting these past days...Sounds pretty accurate.

Here's a TLR; if the blame cannot be passed on NRS, then they simply do not deserve to earn a single penny from PC sales since "they are not developing it". Then it also confirms that their brand is pure shit since
a) no quality control
b) no security in knowing that you buy a product that will get treated the same as on consoles (Boon'd)
c) they share the bed with WB

Maybe it was a good idea to not put their logos all over MK Egg$$$ PC after all...

Welp, I signed the petition, as I would like to see EVERYONE enjoying MKX to the fullest, and I sincerely hope that it gets 10X more signatures than the stupid Tremor petition, so that they take notice and do something about it.
I agree that the PC sales should go to whomever ported it, as well as the losses from those who demand their money back on steam.
WB and High Voltage should be the ones taking the good with the bad.
I'm sorry that you feel that way and I can understand your anger, but I still think that 100% of the blame belongs to WB and High Voltage for them not being honest and sincere with what was going on, to begin with.
This PC porting problem seems to be more of a WB issue that's been going on lately, though, which is why I'm thinking more of the blame goes to them.
Didn't WB also have issues porting the last Batman game to PC???

 

[Noob-Zer013]

EDIT:



That's the thing about opinions, though.
To me, it does come off as an insult to said character's fans, whereas to you and [MENTION=16500]Kitty_55[/MENTION] it doesn't.

Fujin and Frost both did have their moments, but Fujin isn't being trolled around with a costume for Raiden (for example).
It does seem that Frost is being trolled around more with her cameo and Cassie getting a "female Lin Kuei" costume.
I'm not saying that there's anything wrong with cameos, but it's that extra bit of trolling on said characters that seems to be more of a dick-ish move, imo.
Had Boon (or the dev who worked on Cassie's Fatality) not gone an extra step to put in the "Has anyone found Fujin yet" message, then I would have just been like "Oh, well whatever, maybe he'll show up in the next game," and just left it at that.
But no, they had to twist the knife a little more.

See, again, this is where opinions differ.
If Boon had said that Fujin was to never appear again, then I'd be like "Ok, cool, at least I now know not to expect him, and he isn't toying around with people's expectations in a dick-ish manner."
Sure, it would suck, but I'd be able to move on, rather than being kept wondering if he'll ever appear, because Boon like to mess with people's feeling and give them false hopes.
No matter how much I or anyone else petitions for it, if Boon hates the character like he hated Hsu Hao, then he won't be in regardless.
If he's (or any other character) is not going to ever appear, then I'd rather Boon just put him or any other character on the "de-confirmed" list and be done with it.

Despite our opinions, the truth isn't a matter of opinion. They were either putting up their "middle finger" or they weren't. I guess we don't know for sure until we ask them and recieve an answer.

I bet if we asked them:

Fan: "Hey, was Cassie's Lin Kuei cosplay costume a middle finger to Frost fans?"

Boon: "Uhhh no? Its a Lin Kuei cosplay costume.."

But I wouldn't base an opinion on assumptions. Now, if Cassie's costume was an actual Frost costume, I still wouldn't assume it is an insult. And the truth stands above anyone's opinion.

 

[Kitty_55]

I still don't see how a costume that is labeled as "Cosplay" is "trolling" Frost and her fans. I would say that it would somewhat be a "troll-ish" move if they were to have given Cassie a Frost skin complete with the hair, and even then, I still wouldn't have a problem with it at all. The costume is basically a young adult cosplaying as Sub-Zero. Unlike most people here, I'm not getting upset over minuscule things. I personally enjoy this game.

I don't even see the skin reading "Frost" at all. If you want to look at it as a Frost imitator, go right ahead. I'm just going to look at it as what the skin is supposed to be, cosplay.

 

[Noob-Zer013]

I still don't see how a costume that is labeled as "Cosplay" is "trolling" Frost and her fans. I would say that it would somewhat be a "troll-ish" move if they were to have given Cassie a Frost skin complete with the hair, and even then, I still wouldn't have a problem with it at all. The costume is basically a young adult cosplaying as Sub-Zero. Unlike most people here, I'm not getting upset over minuscule things. I personally enjoy this game.

I don't even see the skin reading "Frost" at all. If you want to look at it as a Frost imitator, go right ahead. I'm just going to look at it as what the skin is supposed to be, cosplay.

Exactly. The answer is right there in the title.

 

[mandead]

I hope we get some more free compatibility skins.

 

[Commander]

I hope we get some more free compatibility skins.

We will.
More "ninja" palette-swaps.
MKII Sub-Zero, Scorpion and Reptile are missing, as is MK1 Ermac.

 

[MK9]

Wouldn't your passion for MK be all the excuse you need to play it again.. ?:lol:

Hahah yes sir indeed but... NO BUTT's.... hehe

 

[Xenon]

It's not reading comprehension.
It's you not understanding how business works.

Classic.

This PC porting problem seems to be more of a WB issue that's been going on lately, though, which is why I'm thinking more of the blame goes to them.
Didn't WB also have issues porting the last Batman game to PC???

Yes it did. Doesn't excuse the developers.

I've read the rest of your post but won't reply to it because it takes up too much space. I agree with some things and strongly disagree with the rest.

 

[Commander]

Honestly, MKXL smells more like one of these Hyper Ultra Super Street Fighter 4s, than anything else

Probably more like MK9 Komplete, imo.

Despite our opinions, the truth isn't a matter of opinion. They were either putting up their "middle finger" or they weren't. I guess we don't know for sure until we ask them and recieve an answer.

I bet if we asked them:

Fan: "Hey, was Cassie's Lin Kuei cosplay costume a middle finger to Frost fans?"

Boon: "Uhhh no? Its a Lin Kuei cosplay costume.."

But I wouldn't base an opinion on assumptions. Now, if Cassie's costume was an actual Frost costume, I still wouldn't assume it is an insult. And the truth stands above anyone's opinion.

And until then, it's a matter of subjective opinion.
Regardless of whether it says "cosplay" or not, the opinion as to whether or not it's a middle finger to those fans is based on an individual opinionated basis.
Boon may or may not have meant it as such, but he's also not going to outright say "Yes, fvck those fans."
His inclusion of Friendships in MKII was his subtle way of giving the middle finger to parents and critics that said that MK1 was "too violent," so I wouldn't be surprised if this was something similar.
Boon is known for being sarcastic and a troll, so to me, it comes off as being such.
If it doesn't for you, then that's how you perceive it.

Classic.



Yes it did. Doesn't excuse the developers.

I've read the rest of your post but won't reply to it because it takes up too much space. I agree with some things and strongly disagree with the rest.

Well, then, I'll agree to disagree.

 

[Noob-Zer013]

Probably more like MK9 Komplete, imo.



And until then, it's a matter of subjective opinion.
Regardless of whether it says "cosplay" or not, the opinion as to whether or not it's a middle finger to those fans is based on an individual opinionated basis.
Boon may or may not have meant it as such, but he's also not going to outright say "Yes, fvck those fans."
His inclusion of Friendships in MKII was his subtle way of giving the middle finger to parents and critics that said that MK1 was "too violent," so I wouldn't be surprised if this was something similar.
Boon is known for being sarcastic and a troll, so to me, it comes off as being such.
If it doesn't for you, then that's how you perceive it.



Well, then, I'll agree to disagree.

You never lose, do you? At least in your head :lol:

The truth is the only way, friend. Lets agree on that at least.

 

[DarkSasuke]

Three diffrent version for select.

 

[Commander]

You never lose, do you? At least in your head :lol:

The truth is the only way, friend. Lets agree on that at least.

Losing?
Our topic was on opinionated stuff and how people perceive things.
I don't see how an opinion can be wrong, though.

I did agree that the truth is the only way in the opening line of my reply....

And until then, it's a matter of subjective opinion.