MK11's new hero (protagonist)?

Tarkatan Trash said:
Shujinko was a protagonist as a rookie. So was Taven. There's a good reason neither one of them was protagonist in multiple games, let alone consecutive games. So if Shujinko and Taven didn't stay protagonists beyond one game, then Cassie shouldn't be protagonist either. In fact, if she's protagonist in MK11, then I hope the bad guys win and kill her.

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TehPredator said:
I would thank this post if I could find that thank button.
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You need a minimum of 100 posts before you are eligible to issue Thanks (you also have a daily limit on how many you can issue...I believe it's 10).
Commander said:
You didn't say or imply some, either, so by omitting certain words you actually do imply ALL with what you say.

For example:
The statement "French food sucks" implies that you think that ALL French food sucks.
The statement "Some French food suck" implies that you think that SOME French foods suck, while other French foods are good.

You're entire statement, word for word, was:



To which my reply was:







This is the new timeline.
Besides, for how many games was Liu Kang the protagonist in the old timeline?
They finally have 8 new characters in an MK game that are well-made, and I sencirely doubt that they're just going to dump them to the wayside.
Like it or not, Cassie defeated Shinnok in MKX, and she is 1 of the new protagonists. :-D
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Cassie should be stripped of protagonist status because of Shujinko and Taven, because what's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.

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TehPredator said:
Wth is that supposed to mean?
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Shujinko and Taven were protagonists as rookies, and did NOT keep that status beyond one game. It's not fair to them to keep Cassie as protagonist beyond MKX (and Cassie was protagonist as a rookie as well).

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Commander said:
This is the new timeline.
Besides, for how many games was Liu Kang the protagonist in the old timeline?
They finally have 8 new characters in an MK game that are well-made, and I sencirely doubt that they're just going to dump them to the wayside.
Like it or not, Cassie defeated Shinnok in MKX, and she is 1 of the new protagonists. :-D
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This,

Thank you for pointing this out. Cassie along with D'Vorah and Kung Jin are my favorite new characters in MKX. Hope Cassie is one of main protagonists for a while and the NRS team make her a little more Sassy.
 
If Scorpion and Sub-Zero are not the protagonists for the next MK game, then the next MK game should be the FINAL MK game.

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Tarkatan Trash said:
If Scorpion and Sub-Zero are not the protagonists for the next MK game, then the next MK game should be the FINAL MK game.

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Whoa, calm down there.

Also, to everyone saying Shujinko is generic:


A person who the player and Shujinko himself thought they were on the good side the whole time, and ended up being tricked? That's generic? When you were helping the bad guys the WHOLE TIME?

Taven and Cassie are generic IMO.

Cassie: Ripoff of Johnneh
Taven: Your average save the world kinda guy.

If Suchin came back to life and was playable, id be down.
 
Tarkatan Trash said:
Cassie should be stripped of protagonist status because of Shujinko and Taven, because what's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.
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Again:

They finally have 8 new characters in an MK game that are well-made, and I sencirely doubt that they're just going to dump them to the wayside.
Like it or not, Cassie defeated Shinnok in MKX, and she is 1 of the new protagonists. :-D
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Also, Shujinko and most of the 3D era cast was horrible, save for a few, so there really is no comparing and era where most characters from that era sucked to an era where 8 new MKX characters pretty much trumped the majority of the characters from that era.
You're really comparing 2 shitty characters to 1 well developed MKX character? :laugh:
Shujinko was nothing more than a Sub-Zero, Scorpion, Raiden, Liu Kang, Kobra, Sindel and Ermac wannabe and a thief.
Ice Ball, Spear and the Flying Thunder God move are moves that are iconic to those 3 (Sub-Zero, Scorpion and Raiden).
There's no substitute for the real thing.
Whereas Cassie and the other 7 are more original that Shujinko ever was.



Tarkatan Trash said:
If Scorpion and Sub-Zero are not the protagonists for the next MK game, then the next MK game should be the FINAL MK game.
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Uh, news flash:
Sub-Zero and Scorpion weren't the main protagonists in the MKX story mode, either.
The majority of the MKX story revolved around Kotal Kahn, Johnny Cage, Sonya, Mileena, Cassie, Takeda, Kung Jin and Jacqui.



TehPredator said:
Cassie: Ripoff of Johnneh
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Yes, such logic.
So much doge.

Cassie has 1 move of Johnny's and she's a "Ripoff of Johheh," yet Shujinko rips off 8 characters and he's original to you?
Ok.
 
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That whiny princess didn't get a chapter.
Unlike scorpion and sub zero.
Credit to RMPCobra on gamefaqs for typing all this out lol

Chapter 1 - Johnny Cage
- World on fire
- Unpleasantly cold
- Among friends
- Life imitates art
Chapter 2 - Kotal Khan
- Civil war
- Edenian resistance
- The rain falls where it may
- Empress Attacks
Chapter 3 - Sub Zero
- The grandmaster
- Fathers and sons
- Rookie mistakes
- A lesson in humility
Chapter 4 - Kung Jin
- Kotal Khan's justice
- New girl
- Family matters
- Trial by kombat
Chapter 5 - Sonya Blade
- into the netherrealm
- Desperate measures
- Last stand
- Renewed acquaintance
Chapter 6 - D'vorah
- Regime change
- Hidden agendas
- The kitinn prefer solitude
- Crushed rebellion
Chapter 7 - Takeda
- Sins of the father
- Secrets revealed
- Brave or foolish
- We are many, you are one
Chapter 8 - Jax
- Back in the saddle
- Welcome home Jackson Briggs
- Victim no longer
- It's good to be back
Chapter 9 - Scorpion
- Quan chi must die
- The bonds of friendship
- Stained honor
- Your debt is paid
Chapter 10 - Raiden
- Free the shaolin
- Truth and light
- Unintended consequences
- Prodigal son
Chapter 11 - Jacqui Briggs
- Jinsei infected
- Family pride
- Trickery! Deceit!
- Earthrealm is lost!
Chapter 12 - Cassie Cage
- Mommy issues
- You wish to die first
- First father, then daughter
- Family business
- New Beginnings
 
"They finally made a good new protagonist, so she should be junked like the bad ones were" is some truly great absurd troll logic, so congrats on that one guys.
 
Imperatrix Sindel said:
"They finally made a good new protagonist, so she should be junked like the bad ones were" is some truly great absurd troll logic, so congrats on that one guys.
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That's [MENTION=12345]Tarkatan Trash[/MENTION] for you.
He's admitted in the past that he initially created his account to troll.
 
Commander said:
Cassie has 1 move of Johnny's and she's a "Ripoff of Johheh," yet Shujinko rips off 8 characters and he's original to you?
Ok.
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Personality wise. I'm more interested in story than moves.

Imperatrix Sindel said:
"They finally made a good new protagonist, so she should be junked like the bad ones were" is some truly great absurd troll logic, so congrats on that one guys.
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Cassie is a good new protagonist?

Any other of the four teens would've been better.
 
TehPredator said:
Personality wise. I'm more interested in story than moves.
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I'm interested in both, but it's not a big deal that she has some of his quirks.
It's only natural that she inhereted some of his mannerisms.
Children get that from their parents from time to time.
People say that I resemble and sound like my dad, even though I personally don't see it.
I really don't know what you expected from her personality, given that she IS Johnny's daughter and Johnny is more mature in this game.
He passed on being a smart-ass to Cassie, and now she can carry the torch of being the smart-ass character from here on out.
 
Cassie should be scrubbing blood off the Kombat Zones using only bleach, water, and a toothbrush in order to earn her Hero status. Rookies need to earn their place. She should know that first-hand, given her military background.

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You have a point there. But Cassie doesn't seem like the right protagonist to me. Also, if cassie defeated shinnok, then that means half the MKX roster couldve been a protagonist, as shown here:

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Yes, I know I screen captured a silly video but I firmly believe this theory/image. Almost half the MKX roster could've defeated Shinnok (aka being the main protagonist) and if the big bad of mk11 (shang tsung?) is weaker than shinnok then, depending on the roster, most of them have potential of beating the big bad. And if he's stronger than Shinnok (the one being or onaga? or unknown) that lessens the protagonist possibillities, but come on. Are you telling me that a boy who can teleport while punching and was raised by scorpion is weaker than a girl who simply uses guns and that green energy? (which is called?)
 
Tarkatan Trash said:
Cassie should be scrubbing blood off the Kombat Zones using only bleach, water, and a toothbrush in order to earn her Hero status. Rookies need to earn their place. She should know that first-hand, given her military background.
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Well, Jax doesn't care to do it anymore and wants to retire, Liu Kang, Kitana and Kung Lao are dead and are happy to be evil in MKX and Raiden went all dark, so I think that Cassie and her squad will do just fine as the new protagonists from here on out.
Part of me hopes that Liu Kang and Kitana attempt some NetherRealm invasion shit in MK11, so that Raiden will give them both a "fate worse than death," much like he did to Shinnok.


TehPredator said:
You have a point there. But Cassie doesn't seem like the right protagonist to me. Also, if cassie defeated shinnok, then that means half the MKX roster couldve been a protagonist, as shown here:


Yes, I know I screen captured a silly video but I firmly believe this theory/image. Almost half the MKX roster could've defeated Shinnok (aka being the main protagonist) and if the big bad of mk11 (shang tsung?) is weaker than shinnok then, depending on the roster, most of them have potential of beating the big bad. And if he's stronger than Shinnok (the one being or onaga? or unknown) that lessens the protagonist possibillities, but come on. Are you telling me that a boy who can teleport while punching and was raised by scorpion is weaker than a girl who simply uses guns and that green energy? (which is called?)
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Half of the roster could have defeated Shao Kahn in the MK1 and MKII parts of MK9, as well, but they didn't.

Green energy and fist fighting stopped Shinnok from killing Sonya when Johnny jumped in the way and it sure as hell allowed Johnny to kill some time by kicking Shinnok's ass and distracting him before kicking over the amulet to Raiden.
The whole point of ___________ character could have defeated _____________ character is also pointless in MK lore when you consider that in MK9 Stryker (WITH NO SPECIAL POWERS) can beat the shit out of Reptile, Mileena, a 4-armed half-dragon (Kintaro), a guy possessed by 1,000 souls (Ermac) and a cyborg (Cyrax) with nothing but his bare hands, guns, grenades and a baton.

Are you all really trying to inject realism into a game series in which such impossible things are otherwise possible?
 
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Commander said:
Well, Jax doesn't care to do it anymore and wants to retire, Liu Kang, Kitana and Kung Lao are dead and are happy to be evil in MKX and Raiden went all dark, so I think that Cassie and her squad will do just fine as the new protagonists from here on out.
Part of me hopes that Liu Kang and Kitana attempt some NetherRealm invasion shit in MK11, so that Raiden will give them both a "fate worse than death," much like he did to Shinnok.
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Why can't Scorpion and Sub-Zero be the primary heroes? They're the biggest stars among the current good guys, so they should be the primary heroes for that very reason. Would you rather have Barbara Gordon as the main hero of the Batman franchise ahead of Bruce Wayne?

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Tarkatan Trash said:
Why can't Scorpion and Sub-Zero be the primary heroes? They're the biggest stars among the current good guys, so they should be the primary heroes for that very reason. Would you rather have Barbara Gordon as the main hero of the Batman franchise ahead of Bruce Wayne?
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As long as Batman is playable, why would I even give a crap?
The same goes for Sub-Zero and Scorpion.
They aren't the main focus of the MKX story, yet they are playable in the game, and that's all that should really matter, according to your mentality of "everi MK gaem must haz yellow and blue."
 
All im saying is that if the last chapter is about cassie, I will skip that MK game. If it's the Squad (Takeda, Kung Jin, Cassie, and Jacqui) im down.

Remember how bad Special Forces was? Its because of the military thing.

In a game about demons and monsters and revenge and protection, we have a young girl taking her iphone to deathmatches and trash talking everyone. I like the johnny side better than the sonya side.
 
So, you'd skip a whole potentially good MK fighting game if the protagonist is still Cassie?

Special Forces was just bad because the game and story itself were shitty.
It had nothing to do with the Special Forces part of it.

My point is, if Stryker can stand up to demons and monsters with his bare hands and defeat them, then so can Cassie who has the same green energy power as Johnny and also has a baton, guns and bombs.
Just sayin.'
 
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