Massacre at Elementary School
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Tarkatan Trash
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I guarantee you that this, like the Aurora, CO movie theater shootings, Columbine shootings, Beltway sniper attacks, and all other acts of mass violence that came before, will be used as a pretext to strip us law-abiding citizens of the right to bare arms that we were born with!
I will NEVER surrender those rights, and those who try to take those rights away from me are the ones who deserve a shitload of bullet holes, not innocent children!
I will NEVER surrender those rights, and those who try to take those rights away from me are the ones who deserve a shitload of bullet holes, not innocent children!
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THE JOHNNY ROOK
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The shooters mother bought him the guns...legally. The same guns used to shoot her at their home.
Love Cowboy
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Stricter gun laws will accomplish nothing but prevent law-abiding citizens from having guns. Generally speaking, the type of people who commit illegal acts will not care how illegally they obtained their weapons.
Tarkatan Trash
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And the mere presence of the Second Amendment won't be the only scapegoat for unspeakable tragedies like this. Anybody remember douchebag lawyer Jack Thompson? Every time this shit happened, he ALWAYS pointed the finger at video games such as MK, GTA, Manhunt, etc. There is a reason he was disbarred (and there is a reason Brown v. EMA officially put an end to his anti-gaming crusades).
Anyone remember Columbine? Not only were video games being used as a scapegoat, but so too was hard rock and heavy metal. The media was exposed as bullshit artists when they pointed the finger at Marilyn Manson over Columbine, and then it was later revealed that Klebold and Harris didn't even like Manson (in fact, Manson himself admitted on an episode of That Metal Show that Klebold and Harris thought he was a sell-out). That's why I think the bigger tragedy is the media coverage of this shit, because while several families are in mourning, the media is looking for scapegoats in an effort to keep this shit in the news cycle.
Anyone remember Columbine? Not only were video games being used as a scapegoat, but so too was hard rock and heavy metal. The media was exposed as bullshit artists when they pointed the finger at Marilyn Manson over Columbine, and then it was later revealed that Klebold and Harris didn't even like Manson (in fact, Manson himself admitted on an episode of That Metal Show that Klebold and Harris thought he was a sell-out). That's why I think the bigger tragedy is the media coverage of this shit, because while several families are in mourning, the media is looking for scapegoats in an effort to keep this shit in the news cycle.
dimentiorules
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This makes me cry manly tears. I mean, these kids had their entire lives ahead of them, and they had them cut short, just like that. And the kids that didn't die will be traumatized for life because of this. Even Obama himself shed tears when talking about this.
For his punishment in hell, he should be eternally tormented by the souls of the children and staff he killed.
For his punishment in hell, he should be eternally tormented by the souls of the children and staff he killed.
Freyith
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Fcking A', This wasn't too far from where I used to live.
Also, seriously? Fck this political bullshit. Obama? Really? Most everyone on the internet right now, and on talk radio, the news, etc. need to take a serious cup of STFU and actually think for a little bit about what happened, and maybe feel something genuine instead of the mock outrage that's just an excuse for "Well, I think __________!!"
Fck people.
Also, seriously? Fck this political bullshit. Obama? Really? Most everyone on the internet right now, and on talk radio, the news, etc. need to take a serious cup of STFU and actually think for a little bit about what happened, and maybe feel something genuine instead of the mock outrage that's just an excuse for "Well, I think __________!!"
Fck people.
Critical-Limit
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In defense of Gun control people.
that stabbing in japan comparison to the gun massacre here.
look at the death totals and tell me it's the same scenario.
I will protect my gun rights as much as any american. But I'm not gonna act like guns don't make it easy. I don't think a ban would fix anything.
And you always have missing data. like
The crimes that were deterred because alot of people had a gun. you can't get data on that, because you don't know who changed their minds.
Guns aren't ever going to be banned here. NRA has more influence than you think.
that stabbing in japan comparison to the gun massacre here.
look at the death totals and tell me it's the same scenario.
I will protect my gun rights as much as any american. But I'm not gonna act like guns don't make it easy. I don't think a ban would fix anything.
And you always have missing data. like
The crimes that were deterred because alot of people had a gun. you can't get data on that, because you don't know who changed their minds.
Guns aren't ever going to be banned here. NRA has more influence than you think.
Tarkatan Trash
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To be fair, though, if you don't like the Second Amendment and want it repealed, don't get mad at the NRA, get mad at the Founding Fathers. They were the ones who wrote it and ratified it, not the NRA. As a matter of fact, if you don't like gun rights, then get out of the United States. Gun rights are as American as baseball and apple pie.
HamatoYoshi
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I too think this was staged. It really shouldn't take fear and sacrificing innocent people (CHILDREN) for the government to want to try and pass a law. If the people don't want it done, it shouldn't be done. Its what this nation was built on.
As for this...
As for this...
Jade
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IIn 1764, kids in a school were scalped.
In 1898, an 8 year old student was stabbed to death.
In 1927, a school board member set up dynamite in an elementary school and blew a portion of it up (if I remember correctly, he had more rigged, but they failed, so that is why only part of the school blew up). 45 dead, 28 injured.
In 1940, a 3rd grade student was stabbed to death.
In 1944, a student held down another student while a third student stabbed her to death.
In 1959, a parent detonated a bomb in the school yard during recess, killing 6, injuring 19.
In 1961, a 14 year old student sexually assaulted his teacher and then stabbed her to death.
In 1964, a student in Germany turned an insecticide sprayer in to a flame thrower and killed 11, injured 22.
In 1970, Israeli Air Force bombed a school, killing 46, injuring more than 50.
In 1977, a guy ran in to a school and killed 4 kids, one adult, with a machete.
In 1982, a guy entered a kindergarten in China, stabbing everyone. 5 died, 43 injured.
In 1983, a guy attacked a nursery, hacking up 3 people and injuring 2 others.
In 1986, a man and his wife took hostages at a school and their bomb went off, killing 2 and injuring 79.
In 1994, a psycho with a club beat 4 kids to death in a school.
In 1996, a man slashed kids and teachers with a machete at a school holding a picnic.
In 1996, a man set a 6 year old student on fire.
In 1998, a teacher stabbed 2 kids, injured 15.
In 1998, a teacher stabbed 8 students, 3 teachers, at a school in Hungary.
In 1998, a man in China stabbed 23 elementary kids.
In 1999, a man entered a school and chopped 3 students to death with a meat clever in Latvia.
In 1999, a man intentionally drove his car in to a school playground and killed 2 kids, injured 4.
In 2001, a man slashed a principal and two teachers with a machete, as well as injuring several kindergarten students.
In 2001, 4 students were stabbed in the neck in an elementary school.
In 2001, a janitor in Japan stabbed to death 8 kids, injured 15.
In 2002, a man in Korea injured 10 kids with a knife.
In 2002, a man in China stabbed and killed 5 elementary kids.
In 2003, a man in China stabbed and killed 4 elementary kids, and 4 teachers.
In 2004, an 11 year old girl in Japan killed another student by slashing her throat.
In 2004 in China, a man with a knife and explosives injured 28 kindergarten students.
In 2004, a man in China stabbed 25 students with a kitchen knife.
In 2004 in China, a primary school teacher killed 4 kids with a knife, injured 9 other kids and 3 teachers.
In 2004 in China, a man injured 12 students with a knife.
In 2005 in Japan, a 17 year old stabbed stabbed 3 teachers.
In 2005 in Japan, a teacher stabbed a student to death.
In 2006 in China, a man entered a kindergarten, sprayed the floor with gas, and set them on fire, killing 12 kids, injuring 4 students and teachers.
In 2006 in China, a man hacked his aunt, went to a school, and stabbed a 3rd grader to death.
In 2007 in China, a man stabbed 4 students, killing 1, aged 9.
In 2007 in China, a man threw students out of a window, killing one, aged 9.
In 2008, in Afghanistan, 15 students and teachers had acid thrown on them.
In 2009 in Belgium, a woman entered a kindergarten, stabbed 4 people, two babies included, and injured 12.
In 2009 in China, a woman killed 2 primary school students with a kitchen knife, injured two more.
In 2010 in China, 8 students were hacked to death with a machete, 5 injured.
In 2010 in China, 2 students were killed with a meat cleaver, 5 injured.
In 2010 in China, 17 were injured from getting stabbed at a primary school.
In 2010 in China, 29 kids, 2 teachers and a security guard were stabbed at a kindergarten.
In 2010 in China, a man broke through the gate with his motorcycle, injured 5 students with a hammer, and almost put two kids on fire (the kids were pulled away before he could do it and he ended up only setting himself on fire)
In 2010 in China, a man killed 7 students with a meat cleaver, injured 11.
In 2010 in China, a man killed 3 kids, injured 3 more, and 4 teachers, with a knife.
In 2010 in the Philippines, a 4 year old student was stabbed to death, 4 other kids wounded.
In 2011 in China, a woman injured 8 students by slashing them with a box cutter.
In 2011 in South Africa, a teacher was hacked to death with a machete in front of his class by his brother.
Let's use China as our example. Here is the sum of gun possession in China:
Now let's take another look at the list of non-gun related attacks and see how many occurred in China.
Banning guns will not prevent people from committing murder. They will just find other weapons to use. A gun is 'faster and easier', sure, but, it is not the only option. If you know how to use a weapon properly, ANY weapon can be fast, easy and very dangerous. Just like if someone knows how to use their hands and feet in a fight. They will be more dangerous than a person who doesn't know how to be quick and accurate.
Let's also think about illegal drugs. How's that holding out? Oh, right, people are still obtaining drugs and ODing on them.
I totally understand the way people look at guns. I don't think it is by any means a far fetched conclusion, but, IMO, people always jump to that conclusion without ever thinking of the full situation.
In pretty much all of the examples I gave, those people were mentally ill.
Weapons don't kill people. You need someone with a problem to use those weapons maliciously.
The man who killed those kids yesterday suffered from multiple personality disorder.
I don't give a shit how 'innocent' your mental illness is. This guy could have been a real nice guy as Adam, but a real tool as Johnny. Just because people saw nice guy Adam most of the time doesn't mean he is okay. Anyone with a mental illness should be in some kind of institution.
Using the nurse from the Kate Middleton prank, everyone loves to jump on the DJs, but they fail to look at this woman's mental state. A normal person like you and I would be embarrassed. Most people would. Anyone who actually goes off and kills themselves had something else going on. She already had issues and that prank was 'the last straw'.
All about mentalities, not weapons, and the stupid media flaunting these things for the next psycho to up the ante so he can get all over the news.
In 1898, an 8 year old student was stabbed to death.
In 1927, a school board member set up dynamite in an elementary school and blew a portion of it up (if I remember correctly, he had more rigged, but they failed, so that is why only part of the school blew up). 45 dead, 28 injured.
In 1940, a 3rd grade student was stabbed to death.
In 1944, a student held down another student while a third student stabbed her to death.
In 1959, a parent detonated a bomb in the school yard during recess, killing 6, injuring 19.
In 1961, a 14 year old student sexually assaulted his teacher and then stabbed her to death.
In 1964, a student in Germany turned an insecticide sprayer in to a flame thrower and killed 11, injured 22.
In 1970, Israeli Air Force bombed a school, killing 46, injuring more than 50.
In 1977, a guy ran in to a school and killed 4 kids, one adult, with a machete.
In 1982, a guy entered a kindergarten in China, stabbing everyone. 5 died, 43 injured.
In 1983, a guy attacked a nursery, hacking up 3 people and injuring 2 others.
In 1986, a man and his wife took hostages at a school and their bomb went off, killing 2 and injuring 79.
In 1994, a psycho with a club beat 4 kids to death in a school.
In 1996, a man slashed kids and teachers with a machete at a school holding a picnic.
In 1996, a man set a 6 year old student on fire.
In 1998, a teacher stabbed 2 kids, injured 15.
In 1998, a teacher stabbed 8 students, 3 teachers, at a school in Hungary.
In 1998, a man in China stabbed 23 elementary kids.
In 1999, a man entered a school and chopped 3 students to death with a meat clever in Latvia.
In 1999, a man intentionally drove his car in to a school playground and killed 2 kids, injured 4.
In 2001, a man slashed a principal and two teachers with a machete, as well as injuring several kindergarten students.
In 2001, 4 students were stabbed in the neck in an elementary school.
In 2001, a janitor in Japan stabbed to death 8 kids, injured 15.
In 2002, a man in Korea injured 10 kids with a knife.
In 2002, a man in China stabbed and killed 5 elementary kids.
In 2003, a man in China stabbed and killed 4 elementary kids, and 4 teachers.
In 2004, an 11 year old girl in Japan killed another student by slashing her throat.
In 2004 in China, a man with a knife and explosives injured 28 kindergarten students.
In 2004, a man in China stabbed 25 students with a kitchen knife.
In 2004 in China, a primary school teacher killed 4 kids with a knife, injured 9 other kids and 3 teachers.
In 2004 in China, a man injured 12 students with a knife.
In 2005 in Japan, a 17 year old stabbed stabbed 3 teachers.
In 2005 in Japan, a teacher stabbed a student to death.
In 2006 in China, a man entered a kindergarten, sprayed the floor with gas, and set them on fire, killing 12 kids, injuring 4 students and teachers.
In 2006 in China, a man hacked his aunt, went to a school, and stabbed a 3rd grader to death.
In 2007 in China, a man stabbed 4 students, killing 1, aged 9.
In 2007 in China, a man threw students out of a window, killing one, aged 9.
In 2008, in Afghanistan, 15 students and teachers had acid thrown on them.
In 2009 in Belgium, a woman entered a kindergarten, stabbed 4 people, two babies included, and injured 12.
In 2009 in China, a woman killed 2 primary school students with a kitchen knife, injured two more.
In 2010 in China, 8 students were hacked to death with a machete, 5 injured.
In 2010 in China, 2 students were killed with a meat cleaver, 5 injured.
In 2010 in China, 17 were injured from getting stabbed at a primary school.
In 2010 in China, 29 kids, 2 teachers and a security guard were stabbed at a kindergarten.
In 2010 in China, a man broke through the gate with his motorcycle, injured 5 students with a hammer, and almost put two kids on fire (the kids were pulled away before he could do it and he ended up only setting himself on fire)
In 2010 in China, a man killed 7 students with a meat cleaver, injured 11.
In 2010 in China, a man killed 3 kids, injured 3 more, and 4 teachers, with a knife.
In 2010 in the Philippines, a 4 year old student was stabbed to death, 4 other kids wounded.
In 2011 in China, a woman injured 8 students by slashing them with a box cutter.
In 2011 in South Africa, a teacher was hacked to death with a machete in front of his class by his brother.
Let's use China as our example. Here is the sum of gun possession in China:
Now let's take another look at the list of non-gun related attacks and see how many occurred in China.
Banning guns will not prevent people from committing murder. They will just find other weapons to use. A gun is 'faster and easier', sure, but, it is not the only option. If you know how to use a weapon properly, ANY weapon can be fast, easy and very dangerous. Just like if someone knows how to use their hands and feet in a fight. They will be more dangerous than a person who doesn't know how to be quick and accurate.
Let's also think about illegal drugs. How's that holding out? Oh, right, people are still obtaining drugs and ODing on them.
I totally understand the way people look at guns. I don't think it is by any means a far fetched conclusion, but, IMO, people always jump to that conclusion without ever thinking of the full situation.
In pretty much all of the examples I gave, those people were mentally ill.
Weapons don't kill people. You need someone with a problem to use those weapons maliciously.
The man who killed those kids yesterday suffered from multiple personality disorder.
I don't give a shit how 'innocent' your mental illness is. This guy could have been a real nice guy as Adam, but a real tool as Johnny. Just because people saw nice guy Adam most of the time doesn't mean he is okay. Anyone with a mental illness should be in some kind of institution.
Using the nurse from the Kate Middleton prank, everyone loves to jump on the DJs, but they fail to look at this woman's mental state. A normal person like you and I would be embarrassed. Most people would. Anyone who actually goes off and kills themselves had something else going on. She already had issues and that prank was 'the last straw'.
All about mentalities, not weapons, and the stupid media flaunting these things for the next psycho to up the ante so he can get all over the news.
Tarkatan Trash
Active member
FACT: If you live in Kennesaw, GA, and you are a law-abiding citizen of legal age, then you are legally mandated to own a gun! That's right, ladies and gentlemen, there are towns in our country that make it mandatory to own a gun! Is it any coincidence that Kennesaw's crime rate has steadily declined since the mandatory gun law was enacted in 1982?
Ryan Fucaloro
New member
This tragedy is truthfully devastating to all those in that town and across the country. People are wrong when they say stricter gun laws are needed, because of the fact that many of the people who do these kinds of things tend to have no criminal records. This man in this instance got the gun from his mother, who legally bought it. If he had wanted to buy one he could have just done so and after they ran a background check they would have given it to him. If the laws were tightened he still would have walked away with a gun because his record was spotless
This is a sad situation and it should have many of us blessed to have the people we have in our lives, because they could be taken from us at any moment.
This is a sad situation and it should have many of us blessed to have the people we have in our lives, because they could be taken from us at any moment.
dimentiorules
New member
What do you guys mean by staged? Are you implying that you think that those children didn't actually die?! How could you?!
Jade
Well-known member
No, they mean that this guy was 'allowed' to go in to the school and shoot everyone up to try to press the issue of guns. People really died, that isn't what they meant.
It is basically the thought process that no one will do anything until something happens. Just like how people think 9/11 was staged as an excuse for the US to go to war. The US couldn't just randomly invade so they had to have a reason to.
THE JOHNNY ROOK
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They think it is staged to further restrict gun laws or for further political, social agendas.
They also believe 911 was a hoax, the moon landing was a hoax, and various other conspiracy theories.
They also believe 911 was a hoax, the moon landing was a hoax, and various other conspiracy theories.
RockHardMilkGun
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Guns are notoriously easy to obtain...
I could go to the city and get a "throwaway" wit more than a few bodies on it for about $100, shoot my target, throw away the gun
(hence the term throwaways)
People kill people cuz...
I could go to the city and get a "throwaway" wit more than a few bodies on it for about $100, shoot my target, throw away the gun
(hence the term throwaways)
People kill people cuz...