Johnny Cage Thread - "I make this look easy!"

DCP said:
It's not a bad match up at all, once you learn it. What are you having trouble with?
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I don't know how to play...I'm not able to elaborate a good strategy.
Playing against a good Cyber Sub, I can't rush him down easily because of the parry.
Also, I don't know what do to when he rushes me, when I try to react he is ready to use parry again.
I know I can hit him using sweep or EXShadow Kick, but it's still a problem...
From the distance I can't fight using forceballs, because he trades with iceball.
Ex bombs also give me problems, because I have to jump to avoid them and he is ready to use Ice Beam :(

How should I play this matchup?

* Notice that the good cyber sub knows I can punish his divekicks, and he doesn't use this move much.
 
Asodimazze said:
I don't know how to play...I'm not able to elaborate a good strategy.
Playing against a good Cyber Sub, I can't rush him down easily because of the parry.
Also, I don't know what do to when he rushes me, when I try to react he is ready to use parry again.
I know I can hit him using sweep or EXShadow Kick, but it's still a problem...
From the distance I can't fight using forceballs, because he trades with iceball.
Ex bombs also give me problems, because I have to jump to avoid them and he is ready to use Ice Beam :(

How should I play this matchup?

* Notice that the good cyber sub knows I can punish his divekicks, and he doesn't use this move much.
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Well, against CSZ, you won't be using any of your wake up attacks often. The parry will cancel them out, and you will end up being damaged. So either roll backwards, or wait for him to hit you to get up. He cannot parry sweeps or pokes, so this is what you will be using mostly. CSZ relies on jumping and his dive kick to get in close, so use it to your advantage. Use a neutral jump punch once you've figured out his jumping pattern, and punish. Make sure to only use your bars for Ex Shadow Kick. This will scare him out of using the bombs. JC's pressure > CSZ, make sure to be in his face as much as possible. If the parry is stopping you, try and see when he tends to use it, and sweep once you've got it figured out. Also, try to tick grab as much as possible.
 
DCP said:
Well, against CSZ, you won't be using any of your wake up attacks often. The parry will cancel them out, and you will end up being damaged. So either roll backwards, or wait for him to hit you to get up. He cannot parry sweeps or pokes, so this is what you will be using mostly. CSZ relies on jumping and his dive kick to get in close, so use it to your advantage. Use a neutral jump punch once you've figured out his jumping pattern, and punish. Make sure to only use your bars for Ex Shadow Kick. This will scare him out of using the bombs. JC's pressure > CSZ, make sure to be in his face as much as possible. If the parry is stopping you, try and see when he tends to use it, and sweep once you've got it figured out. Also, try to tick grab as much as possible.
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I still think this matchup is at least 6-4 for CSZ...but I'll try to follow your tips and maybe I'll change my mind.
Thanks a lot DCP!
 
xTHUGx said:
Matchup tips against Kabal? Need someone with experience.
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Kabal is tricky as hell, his zoning will keep most JC users behind. The trick is NOT to jump into him unless youre sure it will hit.

Start off the round with a shadow kick, sounds not safe but at tourney level most kabal users try to get the **** away from Johnny Cage.

when your close be sure not to block low. Give constant pressure, when he has meter watch out for the EX nomad dash. When he gives constant pressure right back do an EX dick punch and get in his face.

Kabal is Cage's worst enemy in my opinion.
 
After using Johnny a lot of time in countless matches, I want to write my matchup list for him.
Notice that this is based on my personal experience, I would be happy if you guys write your opinion about this so we can discuss it together! :)

Johnny - Shang Tsung 7 - 3
Johnny - Sheeva 7 - 3
Johnny - Quan Chi 7 - 3
Johnny - Ermac 6.5 - 3.5
Johnny - Kenshi 6.5 - 3.5
Johnny - Mileena 6 - 4
Johnny - Smoke 6 - 4
Johnny - Jade 6 - 4
Johnny - Liu Kang 6 - 4
Johnny - Sonya 6 - 4
Johnny - Jax 6 - 4
Johnny - Rain 6 - 4
Johnny - Cyrax 6 - 4
Johnny - Baraka 6 - 4
Johnny - Stryker 6 - 4
Johnny - Nightwolf 6 - 4
Johnny - Kano 6 - 4
Johnny - Scorpion 6 - 4
Johnny - Kung Lao 5 - 5
Johnny - Raiden 5 - 5
Johnny - Kabal 5 - 5
Johnny - Sindel 5 - 5
Johnny - Sektor 5 - 5
Johnny - Skarlet 4 - 6
Johnny - Sub-Zero 4 - 6
Johnny - Noob Saibot 4 - 6
Johnny - Kitana 3.5 - 6.5
Johnny - Cyber Sub-Zero 3.5 - 6.5
Johnny - Reptile 3 - 7
 
Asodimazze said:
After using Johnny a lot of time in countless matches, I want to write my matchup list for him.
Notice that this is based on my personal experience, I would be happy if you guys write your opinion about this so we can discuss it together! :)

Johnny - Shang Tsung 7 - 3
Johnny - Sheeva 7 - 3
Johnny - Quan Chi 7 - 3
Johnny - Ermac 6.5 - 3.5
Johnny - Kenshi 6.5 - 3.5
Johnny - Mileena 6 - 4
Johnny - Smoke 6 - 4
Johnny - Jade 6 - 4
Johnny - Liu Kang 6 - 4
Johnny - Sonya 6 - 4
Johnny - Jax 6 - 4
Johnny - Rain 6 - 4
Johnny - Cyrax 6 - 4
Johnny - Baraka 6 - 4
Johnny - Stryker 6 - 4
Johnny - Nightwolf 6 - 4
Johnny - Kano 6 - 4
Johnny - Scorpion 6 - 4
Johnny - Kung Lao 5 - 5
Johnny - Raiden 5 - 5
Johnny - Kabal 5 - 5
Johnny - Sindel 5 - 5
Johnny - Sektor 5 - 5
Johnny - Skarlet 4 - 6
Johnny - Sub-Zero 4 - 6
Johnny - Noob Saibot 4 - 6
Johnny - Kitana 3.5 - 6.5
Johnny - Cyber Sub-Zero 3.5 - 6.5
Johnny - Reptile 3 - 7
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Seems about right. Only one I would change is Skarlet. She's really not all that hard. Her launchers are extremely slow and she really doesn't have any outstanding mixups. Sub-Zero, you just have to fight a bit slower and be patient. Noob, is the same as Sub.
 
DCP said:
Seems about right. Only one I would change is Skarlet. She's really not all that hard. Her launchers are extremely slow and she really doesn't have any outstanding mixups. Sub-Zero, you just have to fight a bit slower and be patient. Noob, is the same as Sub.
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I think the main problem is her zoning...she can throw kunais at an amazing speed and every kunai pushes JC back.
Dash blocking isn't easy and I have to spend all my meter on EX Shadow Kick, that's why Imho is 4-6.
 
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Asodimazze said:
I think the main problem is her zoning...she can throw kunais at an amazing speed and every kunai pushes JC back.
Dash blocking isn't easy and I have to spend all my meter on EX Shadow Kick, that's why Imho is 4-6.
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Yeah, it's the same with pretty much every zoner. That's pretty much all you need your bar for anyway. JC is great in the sense he doesn't rely on his bar as much as other characters.
 
Honestly once I get close to a Zoner, I'm not doing a single thing to push them away. they will always be close to me and thats how I like em ;)

New BnB: (strict timing) F+4, Dash , Sweep, 2, 44, dickpunch.
(Strict timing) F+4, F+4, sweep, 2, 44, dick punch.

Thanks to user Belial at tym.
 
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My favorite combo with him is:
F+4, dash, 21F2, dash, 44, flip kick.

Sometimes I do EX flip kick cause it looks better lol. The combo looks good, does good damage, and is fairly long, which are the 3 qualities I look for in my combos :)
 
I'm sorry but I find it almost pointless to do any combo with cage that doesn't end with a reset. You're just making him harder to use in a fight.
 
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