Jade Thread - "Good Boy!"

[blackjak22]

For the DB2,
If he just got knockout to the ground and you have a down blocking opponent type, the only trick I got is use the enhance boomerang low and rush by dashing to the opponent. Once there, do a DB2. If timed correctly the opponent will have no blocking options by the time the boomerang returns.
and for Ermac ... it all about boomerangs and Blocking... and not lagging.

Can someone show a video of this low ex boomerang and staff overhead trick if anyone can do it? I think it sounds good in theory but when I try it in practice mode it does not even seem to work at all. I try it in every possible way. Assuming opponent doesn't block low, low ex boom from far, from close, after i knock down and can't seem to get the timing of staff overhead to match with when the ex boomerang hits.

In fact after i throw an ex low boomerang from close up i try to do a staff overhead as SOON as possible and the ex hits before the staff.

I would like to also mention that low ex boomerangs can't give free combos. If low ex hits coming back you can't use it to combo because they can block. So crouch blockers still have somewhat advantage against jade. Only reliable thing I have used is tick throws and pressure.

 

[MKBlade]

A very simple Jade combo

B1,db2,dash, b2,dash, 1,2,dash,1,2,command grab

I think it's 33%

 

[Aquatox]

I tried looking it up but I'm not really sure what or how you do a dash cancel. Could anyone please explain?

 

[Critical-Limit]

I tried looking it up but I'm not really sure what or how you do a dash cancel. Could anyone please explain?

you use dash to cancel out of your ground moves ending lag frames quicker. So there is less time for punishment in between attacks. Or so you can end the move faster so you can get in quick enough to continue a combo.

 

[Aquatox]

you use dash to cancel out of your ground moves ending lag frames quicker. So there is less time for punishment in between attacks. Or so you can end the move faster so you can get in quick enough to continue a combo.

So right after you land a move you just click FF?

 

[ImmortalJade]

I'm determined to stick with Jade but getting annoyed by all the Scorpion spammers. Anyone have an effective method for dealing with constant use of Spear and Demon Fire?

 

[Critical-Limit]

So right after you land a move you just click FF?

Yes but it doesn't work for EVERY move. Test it out.

For example:
go into training mode, and I want you to hit 1,2 1,2 1,2 1,2 over and over w/o dashing

then after that I want you to try spamming dash while doing 1,2 (It will insert your dashes inbetween 1,2 to cancel into another 1,2 really fast)

do this on opponent's block in a corner for "easy viewing"

You'll notice a difference in speed.

I'm determined to stick with Jade but getting annoyed by all the Scorpion spammers. Anyone have an effective method for dealing with constant use of Spear and Demon Fire?

Do shadow glow and jump in. Shadow glow avoids the spear and jump avoids the hell fire. Scorpions only choice then is to take pressure/damage.

 

[MKBlade]

I'm determined to stick with Jade but getting annoyed by all the Scorpion spammers. Anyone have an effective method for dealing with constant use of Spear and Demon Fire?

Glow, EX Glow, some more glow and then some more EX Glow.

Save your meter for your EX glow(not just for Scorpion but for every match up). It's godly.

@Aquanox: Practice B2 then dash 1,2. Keep doing it until you nail it down.

 

[Critical-Limit]

Glow, EX Glow, some more glow and then some more EX Glow.

Save your meter for your EX glow(not just for Scorpion but for every match up). It's godly. Get in his face and start pressuring.

@Aquanox: Practice B2 then dash 1,2. Keep doing it until you nail it down.

It's hard to see that it's being cancelled in that combo MKBlade so they can understand "how" it's cancelling. Dashing out of B2 looks like your just dashing out of B2, it's hard to see the "cancellation" for an untrained eye. That's why i suggested the 1,2 spam you can TOTALLY EASILY see the difference when you do that.

 

[Aquatox]

Yes but it doesn't work for EVERY move. Test it out.

For example:
go into training mode, and I want you to hit 1,2 1,2 1,2 1,2 over and over w/o dashing

then after that I want you to try spamming dash while doing 1,2 (It will insert your dashes inbetween 1,2 to cancel into another 1,2 really fast)

do this on opponent's block in a corner for "easy viewing"

You'll notice a difference in speed.

I can't DC after shadow kick. This is very frustrating. :/
I'm trying to do the 22% 5 Hits: F+2,1 Shadow Kick DC 4,F+3 combo but I can't get the 4 in after the DC. Gah. Blasted dash cancel. I do FF right after I input shadow kick and then I click 4.

 

[Shiwin]

I'm totally in love with Jade. She is my favourite character and she is so fun to use. I have a problem though, when I try to do Glow (bf3), most of the time low Boomerang (df3) comes out instead. Does anyone else have this problem? :/

Also, which Boomerang is better? Normal, high or low?

 

[REPTILE 0009]

I'm totally in love with Jade. She is my favourite character and she is so fun to use. I have a problem though, when I try to do Glow (bf3), most of the time low Boomerang (df3) comes out instead. Does anyone else have this problem? :/

Also, which Boomerang is better? Normal, high or low?

I've been having the same problem. I've also been having problems doing her Shadow Kick. It may have something to do with the fact I use a 360 controller.

 

[blackjak22]

I love jade and everything but at times it is so frustrating when at times I use an ex glow on wake up only to get sweeped, juggled, comboed, w/e.

Seriously where is this supposedly 8 frames of invincibility on wake up attacks. I see the wake up popup, I see the faint purple glow before I get hit, I see the 1 meter of bar used. Why do I continued to get pressured when I use an anti pressure on wakeup??????????

 

[Critical-Limit]

I love jade and everything but at times it is so frustrating when at times I use an ex glow on wake up only to get sweeped, juggled, comboed, w/e.

Seriously where is this supposedly 8 frames of invincibility on wake up attacks. I see the wake up popup, I see the faint purple glow before I get hit, I see the 1 meter of bar used. Why do I continued to get pressured when I use an anti pressure on wakeup??????????

what...? I have no idea what you're talking about. If your opponent attacks you when you do Enhanced shadow glow... you should be getting a free combo. You can't get combo'd... while in enhanced shadow glow. jade ignores all stun and keeps on trucking while still taking normal damage.

I'm totally in love with Jade. She is my favourite character and she is so fun to use. I have a problem though, when I try to do Glow (bf3), most of the time low Boomerang (df3) comes out instead. Does anyone else have this problem? :/

Also, which Boomerang is better? Normal, high or low?

Are you lifting your finger? if you're rolling it you are probably doing half circle forward on accident. which becomes Down forward.

try picking your finger all the way up and then hitting forward.

 

[PrinceNocturne]

Can someone show a video of this low ex boomerang and staff overhead trick if anyone can do it? I think it sounds good in theory but when I try it in practice mode it does not even seem to work at all. I try it in every possible way. Assuming opponent doesn't block low, low ex boom from far, from close, after i knock down and can't seem to get the timing of staff overhead to match with when the ex boomerang hits.

Jade doesn't recover fast enough from the ex boomerang to create an unblockable with the staff overhead. A jp is a much better option than the overhead, since it gives you better options even if the opponent blocks (like tick throws). The main use of the EX boomerang on wakeup is not really to create an unblockable reset, but to put Jade in an advantage where she can play mixups and continue to apply pressure with block strings to build that meter up. If they try to tech or jump away on wakeup they get caught in the trap and eat a combo, so they have no choice but to sit and block. It's much better than ending the combo with double shadow kick, and well worth the meter IMO.

I would like to also mention that low ex boomerangs can't give free combos. If low ex hits coming back you can't use it to combo because they can block. So crouch blockers still have somewhat advantage against jade. Only reliable thing I have used is tick throws and pressure.

You can actually combo off the low ex boomerang provided that either 1) the first hit of the boomerange whiffs or 2) the second hit does not combo off the first hit. This best works if you use it from full screen, you can double dash in and jump in for a combo since the boomerang actually causes a lot of hitstun. At mid-screen use the anti-air ex boomerang instead.

Also, which Boomerang is better? Normal, high or low?

All 3 have their uses equally. The low ex boomerang is great for catching people who tech roll on wake up or like to stay on the ground.

Seriously where is this supposedly 8 frames of invincibility on wake up attacks. I see the wake up popup, I see the faint purple glow before I get hit, I see the 1 meter of bar used. Why do I continued to get pressured when I use an anti pressure on wakeup??????????

I've seen this happen too. My guess is you probably missed the 8 frames of invincibility, and activated Shadow Glow too late on wake-up and got swept. Or maybe it's a glitch that allows opponents to sweep Jade even when she uses Shadow Glow on wake-up which I hope they fix if it is lol.

EDIT:

what...? I have no idea what you're talking about. If your opponent attacks you when you do Enhanced shadow glow... you should be getting a free combo. You can't get combo'd... while in enhanced shadow glow. jade ignores all stun and keeps on trucking while still taking normal damage.

I've had no problem with Shadow Glow on wake-up myself, but I've seen it happen to someone in one of the gatherings i've been to. He used Shadow Glow on wake-up but got sweeped even after the purple flash. I don't know if it's completely random or if it happens under certain conditions but I hope they fix it whatever it is.

 

[Critical-Limit]

hmmm, well I guess that has never happened to me yet because i almost ALWAYS do DB2 after enhanced shadow glow on wake up lol. And DB2 you're airborne and avoid all Tripping methods.

 

[PrinceNocturne]

hmmm, well I guess that has never happened to me yet because i almost ALWAYS do DB2 after enhanced shadow glow on wake up lol. And DB2 you're airborne and avoid all Tripping methods.

I use B2 myself which probably also goes over sweeps which is why its never happened to me either lol. I wish I had the game with me right now so I could test this out...

 

[blackjak22]

what...? I have no idea what you're talking about. If your opponent attacks you when you do Enhanced shadow glow... you should be getting a free combo. You can't get combo'd... while in enhanced shadow glow. jade ignores all stun and keeps on trucking while still taking normal damage.

Dude the problem is that I believe jade's wake up ex shadow glow is broken because I am sure I used ex glow on wake up and I still was getting hit. For example a person does a sweep on me as I do my wake up ex glow. The sweep still knocks me down. I know I did glow because of the purple glow I see on jade for like just a millisecond before the sweep knocks me down.

 

[PrinceNocturne]

Dude the problem is that I believe jade's wake up ex shadow glow is broken because I am sure I used ex glow on wake up and I still was getting hit. For example a person does a sweep on me as I do my wake up ex glow. The sweep still knocks me down. I know I did glow because of the purple glow I see on jade for like just a millisecond before the sweep knocks me down.

Do you have a habit of staying grounded when you get knocked down? From what I hear, wake-up attacks after laying grounded lose invincibility if they're activated in the later frames while grounded. I know the purple glow means she should absorb the sweep regardless, but maybe losing the wake-up invincibility causes ex glow to behave differently. Either that, or maybe you can try to activate ex glow a little bit earlier on wake-up.

I really don't think sweep beats wake-up ex glow, because I have absorbed sweeps before with wake-up glow as I said, so it most likely happens under certain conditions.

 

[blackjak22]

well as far as I can recall, I'm pretty sure that I do the shadow glow instantly when I wake up because I'm being pressured really hard. Then again I may have lied down before I do it but still I remember times I activated only not to get sweeped but to get comboed into the air and juggled. I'm very careful in inputting my moves because I tend to want to win and don't want to accidentally do like a low ex boomerang on wakeup which i have done before.

Other than what I've said, can't say for sure for recent matches because I haven't used shadow glow much, let alone get in to the same exact moment of using a shadow glow on wake up and an opponent's attack connects.

Edit: Was in a match today against kabal as jade. Did an ex glow wasn't a wakeup but kabal was just jumping in. I KNOW for sure I had the ex glow on because i used it and it was active for like almost one second til kabal just ****ing uppercut me. So does exglow absorbs all hit? If it does, then it's obviously broken because I had exglow way before kabal's uppercut hit me. And no it did not wear off just as he uppercut me.