Future of MK

[Xenon]

And knowing how they write characters nowadays... that is a very likely scenario. If they could pull Jade/Kotal relationship out of their ass, then they can do even better with Kung Jin.

I find romantic relationships in MK kinda cringe. A few is fine, but at this point the entire roster bangs each other before ripping their supposed lover' spines out. We got to the point where parents and children have no problems shitting down their necks.

Not to mention, the writing is so bad half of the time, it only makes the characters worse.

 

[Misucra]

I find romantic relationships in MK kinda cringe. A few is fine, but at this point the entire roster bangs each other before ripping their supposed lover' spines out. We got to the point where parents and children have no problems shitting down their necks.

Not to mention, the writing is so bad half of the time, it only makes the characters worse.

Yeah, they just don't work at all. Armageddon was the best depiction of everyone's "relationships". In the end everyone had their own personal goals, for which they fought.
Even Kitana and Liu Kang relationship doesn't make sense, due insane age difference. Regardless of what Liu Kang could say or do towards Kitana. Realistically she would only see him as a kid, who was just born into the world. Doesn't matter if their lifespans are different. Their experience and knowledge in life, are so far apart, it ain't even funny.

 

[Xenon]

Yeah. Armageddon made the most sense.... these characters make gore masterpieces out of each other after all. They're not idealized superheroes fighting injustices, they're selfish mentally deranged psychos.

As for Kitana and Liu.... yeah.... it's like people start foaming at the mouth when Leonardo dates 25 year olds, but then go all OMGGGG watching Kitana and Liu.... there's 10k year difference between the two. As you said, he's a toddler in comparison, not to mention they're aliens...

That particular relationship went nowhere for 11 games. At least in MK5, Tobias planned to kill off Liu and pass the torch to his son. Instead for the next 6 games they just go in circles.....

 

[Hulydooly]

The only character with a normal relationship was Jax and his was off screen with an npc.

 

[Commander]

Pick any MK character that isn't gay, turn him gay and vuolia. You have a relationship arc. That's how they would write Kung Jin now.

I mean, that's essentially what they did with Mileena and Tanya for the Mileena ending in MK11.
Now those 2 who were never gay to begin with are shipped together in a relationship with a child.

 

[Misucra]

I mean, that's essentially what they did with Mileena and Tanya for the Mileena ending in MK11.
Now those 2 who were never gay to begin with are shipped together in a relationship with a child.

Oh by the Goddesses... thanks for reminding the stuff, that I really wanted to forget.
I am telling you... that crowd of people is something you stay away from, not listen to every fetish that they have. But again. NRS/WB hired tons of them as well. So you have Tumblr users make stuff for other Tumblr users.

Maybe in MK13, they will grow a brain cell and stop with this nonsense. Especially now that LGBTQ whatever is going into a civil war arc. LGB vs TQ+. May the best.... whatever it is, win!

And then they say I make a hate bait. These guys don't know what jokes are or touching the grass is. And are now fighting amongst themselves. What a miserable bunch.

But I get a feeling, that these companies will just go down in fire, rather than stop being stupid about this.

 

[Commander]

I really don't care and I thought that King Jin was done well, but otherwise established characters should be just that.....established.
Kung Jin is gay, fine, then keep him that way as that was his origin in MKX.
It's 1 of my biggest goddamn pet peeves with Sindel, Kabal and Skarlet in MK11, as well.
They're fucking established already and don't need to have their backgrounds / bios being motherfucking retconned.
Dominic can't write for shit without being a destructive "head-canon" dipshit, though, so that shouldn't surprise me.
Vogel needs to get back to the writing department.

 

[Xenon]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1645638910620385280

 

[Commander]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1645638910620385280

For me, a sequel to Shaolin Monks with someone like Takeda, bridging the gap between games like from MKX to MK11 or the time between MK11 and MK12 would be kinda cool. Hell, even do it with Great Kung Lao to bridge the 500 year gap to the modern day.
That's competent writing / pie-in-the-sky wishing, on my part, though.

 

[Xenon]

Call me a boomer or whatever, but SM-game would be the only thing that excites me from NuMK at this point. I already have MK9 for the 1v1 MK shtick anyways. Story Mode is just a YouTube video, so that's at least half of the game content right there. Gimme some interactivity, dammit

 

[Misucra]

Call me a boomer or whatever, but SM-game would be the only thing that excites me from NuMK at this point. I already have MK9 for the 1v1 MK shtick anyways. Story Mode is just a YouTube video, so that's at least half of the game content right there. Gimme some interactivity, dammit

Nah. I would say you're actually asking for innovation, rather than the same shit over and over again. Old timers usually want nothing to change and shit remain the same.
Unless MK went 3D fighting, it would be no different from the past 3 MK games.
Though I wouldn't be surprised if they did MK11 Part 2 and people would still lose their marbles. It's the same crowd of people that lost their shit over Dead Space/Resident Evil 4 remakes. "TIS A MASTERPIECE" Yeah, it is a remake of the original games. That's like using already done homework and just applying better visuals on it. It is the bare minimum for them not to fuck it up. I don't really see any reason to celebrate that.

Man. MKD was ahead of its time, with Konquest.

 

[dodheimsgard]

Two things I DON'T want from new MK:

1. The same safe MK1-3 roster over and over again.
2. Scorpion's revenge arc - that shit got old long time ago.

 

[Commander]

Call me a boomer or whatever, but SM-game would be the only thing that excites me from NuMK at this point. I already have MK9 for the 1v1 MK shtick anyways. Story Mode is just a YouTube video, so that's at least half of the game content right there. Gimme some interactivity, dammit

Then you may just end up getting that, then.
I mean, to be fair, this isn't the first time that "Shaolin Monks remaster" comes out on top in a poll.

This was just 2 years ago....

https://twitter.com/x/status/1400639026017751042

Nah. I would say you're actually asking for innovation, rather than the same shit over and over again. Old timers usually want nothing to change and shit remain the same.
Unless MK went 3D fighting, it would be no different from the past 3 MK games.
Though I wouldn't be surprised if they did MK11 Part 2 and people would still lose their marbles. It's the same crowd of people that lost their shit over Dead Space/Resident Evil 4 remakes. "TIS A MASTERPIECE" Yeah, it is a remake of the original games. That's like using already done homework and just applying better visuals on it. It is the bare minimum for them not to fuck it up. I don't really see any reason to celebrate that.

Man. MKD was ahead of its time, with Konquest.

I must not be a typical old timer then, because even though I've been with the series since 1992 I'm sick and tired of the same goddamn 26 klassic characters being swapped in and out within the last 3 MK games made by NRS.
It was nice to have some post-MK3 reps like Quan Chi, Shinnok, Tanya, Kenshi and Tremor for the most part in MKX, and Frost (even though not the type we envisioned) and Fujin in MK11.
That said, this whole timeline reset bullshit with FireGod LK now just feels like another reset button / soft reboot going into MK12.

 

[Xenon]

If NRS wants to do their 1v1 YouTube fighters, outsource SM-style game to a 3rd party. Probably would do a better job than NRS anyways...

 

[Misucra]

Then you may just end up getting that, then.
I mean, to be fair, this isn't the first time that "Shaolin Monks remaster" comes out on top in a poll.

This was just 2 years ago....

https://twitter.com/x/status/1400639026017751042

I must not be a typical old timer then, because even though I've been with the series since 1992 I'm sick and tired of the same goddamn 26 klassic characters being swapped in and out within the last 3 MK games made by NRS.
It was nice to have some post-MK3 reps like Quan Chi, Shinnok, Tanya, Kenshi and Tremor for the most part in MKX, and Frost (even though not the type we envisioned) and Fujin in MK11.
That said, this whole timeline reset bullshit with FireGod LK now just feels like another reset button / soft reboot going into MK12.

“We don’t stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” – George Bernard Shaw (Not Benjamin Franklin, for those that watched "TAG" movie)
It is fine to revisit old things, but if we don't try new things, we don't grow and we don't experience new things. The only reason people play Skyrim to this very freaking day. Hell a reason why people STILL BUY it, is because it is massive sandbox with extensive modding tools. You can make your own experience, by spending time with some mods. But you won't find people playing Vanilla version anymore.

Same with MK. Same shit, different color. That my friends, leads to stagnation and Stagnation = death. Simple.
We need to new things.

 

[Misucra]

If NRS wants to do their 1v1 YouTube fighters, outsource SM-style game to a 3rd party. Probably would do a better job than NRS anyways...

Yeah, just give creative license to anyone else. WB gets someone else to make extra games = more profits.

 

[Commander]

If NRS wants to do their 1v1 YouTube fighters, outsource SM-style game to a 3rd party. Probably would do a better job than NRS anyways...

Yeah, just give creative license to anyone else. WB gets someone else to make extra games = more profits.

I mean that's what essentially they did with the original Shaolin Monks game, anyways.
Paradox Development (aka Midway LA at the time) is the one who made it and iirc Boon oversaw some of it.
Paradox Development no longer exists, but if someone under the WB umbrella (like say Rocksteady, for example) could handle doing a remaster then I'd have faith that the end product of a game like that could be well done, given their past track record with the Arkham games.

“We don’t stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” – George Bernard Shaw (Not Benjamin Franklin, for those that watched "TAG" movie)
It is fine to revisit old things, but if we don't try new things, we don't grow and we don't experience new things. The only reason people play Skyrim to this very freaking day. Hell a reason why people STILL BUY it, is because it is massive sandbox with extensive modding tools. You can make your own experience, by spending time with some mods. But you won't find people playing Vanilla version anymore.

Same with MK. Same shit, different color. That my friends, leads to stagnation and Stagnation = death. Simple.
We need to new things.

I mean, this is why I still play the Dishonored games to this day.
I can do various types of loadouts and upgrades and combinations of powers that I may not have previously thought of and try different routes and have different options.

 

[Misucra]

I mean, this is why I still play the Dishonored games to this day.
I can do various types of loadouts and upgrades and combinations of powers that I may not have previously thought of and try different routes and have different options.

Aye. I have hundreds of hours in Frostpunk. It is a city management game, that is also set Steampunk genre and takes place during Global Freezing, where you have to build a city around a massive generator. Goal is always the same. Build the city and make sure it can survive the upcoming storms. But the fun part is getting to the point, where your city is self sufficient. I have spent hundreds of hours, refining the building process, using different steps, min maxing entire process, and hell you have different maps, that require different approaches.

Game is way smaller, than MK11, but has way more to offer gameplay/replay wise.
You innovate, spend time on making sure that gameplay is good? And you're set for a LOOONG time.

I saw some pro players talking, that MK12 might get announced this week. One of them being SonicFox who is pretty much NRS darling and is known working with NRS behind the scenes. So there could be some truth to it.
I am making a bet here now. New MK will have better visuals, but gameplay and roster will be just remixed version of the old. Basically. Same shit, different color. With adjusted gameplay speed.

 

[RoboticsMKX]

I saw some pro players talking, that MK12 might get announced this week

Wow, that's something we want to hear. Also Ed Boon himself made a twitt on 1st of April, that in 12 days there's gonna be something.... maybe it's going to happen, maybe not. Fingers crossed to get something fresh, not just speculations and rumors.

 

[Commander]

I saw some pro players talking, that MK12 might get announced this week. One of them being SonicFox who is pretty much NRS darling and is known working with NRS behind the scenes. So there could be some truth to it.
I am making a bet here now. New MK will have better visuals, but gameplay and roster will be just remixed version of the old. Basically. Same shit, different color. With adjusted gameplay speed.

Maybe, but it's already the end of the week, so I doubt it.
Perhaps next week (17th through the 21st)?

Wow, that's something we want to hear. Also Ed Boon himself made a twitt on 1st of April, that in 12 days there's gonna be something.... maybe it's going to happen, maybe not. Fingers crossed to get something fresh, not just speculations and rumors.

Key take-aways:
"Ed Boon himself"
"on 1st of April"

First rule of Ed Boon Tweets is to never take anything that he says on April Fool's Day as gospel. - Havik 6:9