About Jade's future

Nasty_Freak said:
That woman in her MK9 ending gives A LOT of potential for Jade to have a MAJOR role in the story of a future MK game.
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No, that woman in Jade's MK9 ending gives a lot of potential for that woman in Jade's MK9 ending to have a role in the story of a future MK game.

The only way Jade herself can benefit from this development is if she gets to spend a chapter of a story running around looking for the green woman, and we get to see her characterization as she does this. Looking at the roster and story in MKX, where creator's pet Kenshi didn't even manage to secure himself a chapter, do you honestly think Jade would be a top priority for 1/12 spots in MK11? The most likely way this plays out - if she's on the roster at all - is that by the time of MK11, she's already been possessed.

I'm barely willing to grant that Liu Kang and Kitana, free from Quan Chi and Shinnok's influence, are actually Liu Kang and Kitana. Possessed Jade isn't Jade at all. She's just a new character wearing Jade's skin for a while.

I don't know why you'd want that for your favorite character. If Johnny Cage spent a game being the vessel of a blue spirit man, I'd be very upset.
 
Actually it would depend of what happens to Jade after, to the woman after and by what do they mean with "possessed" which would range from "Jade being herself with extra powers" passing to "Jade losing herself ocasionally" to "living puppet".

Jade was also made as a foil for Kitana but if she remains as the Netherworld queen while Jade ends up as something else in the same game i dont see them being THAT close in that game.
 
p.W said:
I don't know why you'd want that for your favorite character. If Johnny Cage spent a game being the vessel of a blue spirit man, I'd be very upset.
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Uh, maybe he'd want that just because he'd want that? No reason to think someone else's hopes are incorrect because you'd dislike it.
 
Tanyas Husband said:
Uh, maybe he'd want that just because he'd want that? No reason to think someone else's hopes are incorrect because you'd dislike it.
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People don't "just" want things. There's always a reason, the only question is whether he is consciously aware of the reason and able to communicate it to others. I wanted to know the reason, so I asked.

But to address your point in a more general sense, sometimes people are wrong. Maybe in this case I am right and [MENTION=4598]Nasty_Freak[/MENTION] is wrong, and maybe the reasoning I laid out in my post will convince him of this. Or maybe it won't convince him. Or maybe he's not wrong. We won't know unless we discuss it.
 
I remember hating so much when doc ock took over Peter Parker body in the Spider-Man comics. It was not a rare reaction. Even tjose who like d it were to do so because the rightfully assumed it was temporary.
 
p.W said:
People don't "just" want things. There's always a reason, the only question is whether he is consciously aware of the reason and able to communicate it to others. I wanted to know the reason, so I asked.

But to address your point in a more general sense, sometimes people are wrong. Maybe in this case I am right and [MENTION=4598]Nasty_Freak[/MENTION] is wrong, and maybe the reasoning I laid out in my post will convince him of this. Or maybe it won't convince him. Or maybe he's not wrong. We won't know unless we discuss it.
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You always usually have your points covered and correct, but tonight you seem a bit off.
You're basically saying "He wants Jade to be possessed, and didn't tell me or anyone else why he wants her to be possessed, so he is wrong, and needs to know he's wrong." or am I reading this wrong? Because that just sounds like a more selfish way of saying that you want him to agree with you more than you want him to have his own independent choice of opinion.

People don't "just" want things. There's always a reason
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I think you're wrong there. I'm sure a huge chunk of people just want a ton of things they literally have no reason to want.
 
but i did say the reason: to give a reason to explain her not being a revenant.

I didnt say it was the only way i wanted her to comeback, just that Kitana ending seems to be canon and i think that Jade is possesed by the lady there. If it's not canon and she comes backs any other way i'd be just as fine with it lol
 
Tarkatan Trash said:
I think that woman in Jade's ending is her mom.

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That's an interesting idea. We were told Jade was given to Shao Kahn as a baby, as tribute. What if she actually has a more direct divine heritage, like Rain, and she was an unaware sleeper agent all along?

If the mystery woman does factor in, I'd like her to be something that empowers Jade to be a hero rather than takes over her body.

Brian Chard did imply on Twitter that the ghost-Jade figure in Kitana's ending is the mystery woman, fwiw.
 
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p.W said:
People don't "just" want things. There's always a reason, the only question is whether he is consciously aware of the reason and able to communicate it to others. I wanted to know the reason, so I asked.

But to address your point in a more general sense, sometimes people are wrong. Maybe in this case I am right and [MENTION=4598]Nasty_Freak[/MENTION] is wrong, and maybe the reasoning I laid out in my post will convince him of this. Or maybe it won't convince him. Or maybe he's not wrong. We won't know unless we discuss it.
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I really appreciate either the woman and/or Jade herself to be developed. In either case one, both, or the other need to be in MK11 even as DLC. They cannot be missed out on and I know I'm not the only one asking for Jade. To be honest, I don't mind Jade resting out of MKX for awhile but she does need to make a return in MK11 or at least her body possessed by another character. I don't care who's really there out of the two as long as I can play as at least one of them using Jade's body and her weapons with better abilities. I know I'm definitely not the only one wanting Jade to return for MK11.

Speaking of absences in MKX, I was expecting Kitana, Kung Lao, and Jax to all be absent as well and I've already let go of my favorite (Kitana) before MKX came out and I was hoping Li Mei would replace Kitana as playable.

Well, anyways, I hope Tanya will have a lot of good things offer in terms of gameplay.
 
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Tanyas Husband said:
You always usually have your points covered and correct, but tonight you seem a bit off.
You're basically saying "He wants Jade to be possessed, and didn't tell me or anyone else why he wants her to be possessed, so he is wrong, and needs to know he's wrong." or am I reading this wrong? Because that just sounds like a more selfish way of saying that you want him to agree with you more than you want him to have his own independent choice of opinion.
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Well, obviously I do think that he is wrong, because I cannot fathom a solid counter-argument to what I said... but that doesn't mean that there isn't one. Maybe he has a reason that I haven't even thought about, or maybe I have thought about it but dismissed it too hastily. I'm always open to being proven wrong. Being wrong about things (and recognizing it, or being made to) is the best way to learn.

For instance, it's possible that [MENTION=4598]Nasty_Freak[/MENTION] is being realistic about Jade's chances and wants her to be possessed because that's the only way (he thinks) she has a chance of being in the game at all. I might have bones to pick with that line of reasoning, but it's a start to a dialogue.

I think you're wrong there. I'm sure a huge chunk of people just want a ton of things they literally have no reason to want.
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Haha, wanting things isn't magic, it's psychology. You might not be consciously aware of what is stimulating your desire, but that doesn't mean there is no stimulus. Maybe it's a complex web of triggers that spans many facets of your personality and many years of your development, and you wouldn't even know how to start unraveling it. Maybe you do know it on an emotional level but can't put it into words. But there's still something.

So I ask! No harm in it.
 
Personally, I'd prefer if Jade evolved as a character without having some spirit chick take over her body. As mentioned, if the spirit chick takes over, it's not actually Jade who is evolving as a character... it'll be someone else.

However, there could be a merger of souls. The spirit chick and Jade becoming one character, Jade still being Jade, but with the spirit's insight which could give her some motivation and put her in a direction that could lead to character development.

If you're a Dragon Age fan, think Anders and Justice in DA2.

That's just an idea though. If Jade could evolve all on her own, that would be awesome.
 
Thing is with the revenants, at this point, with Shinnok dead and Shang Tsung weakened, the only people as far as I know who can bring Quan Chi back to life are the elder gods, and I really doubt they'll write about them bringing him back, just to bring a few characters back to life. I mean, I can see Quan Chi (back from the elder gods, but slightly weaker) and Shang Tsung siding with Raiden to fight against Liu Kang and Kitana or something. But I doubt they'd bring Quan Chi back, most likely back to his evil state.

Just my $.02
 
p.W said:
I don't know why you'd want that for your favorite character. If Johnny Cage spent a game being the vessel of a blue spirit man, I'd be very upset.
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I don't get it either. We've already had a "possessed" character, his name was Reptile and he's still a mess. Having Onaga using him as a vessel for the entire game definitely did NOT add anything to the character. So by removing Onaga we were left with...A lizard man who's the game's main jobber, with no initiative...

I'm fairly confident that Jade and that woman ≯ Reptile and Onaga.
 
As I said in my last post, maybe she's still a spirit that never got changed?

What happens if she remains as a spirit and she's playable? A spiritual Jade fighting to keep Kitana's sanity from being all corrupted and evil as she is still a ruler of Netherrealm.

And I'm still standing by my stance with what I have said earlier: If you keep that mysterious woman inside of Jade, it's not Jade anymore, it's that woman using Jade's body as a vessel. Just like if Jerrod were to have successfully overcame all of the other souls in Ermac. It would no longer be Ermac, it would be known as Jerrod using Ermac's body.

As a fan of Jade, I don't want someone else using Jade's body as a vessel. Those stories aren't ever interesting nor do they do anything for the character, in my perspective.
 
I wouldn't want Jade to be possessed personally. If the mystery woman does factor into her fate, it'd be better IMO if she were to be more of a mentor type figure to Jade. Unless it's some type of set up for a villain, then I'd probably be more open to the possession angle.
 
ArcaneEsper said:
I wouldn't want Jade to be possessed personally. If the mystery woman does factor into her fate, it'd be better IMO if she were to be more of a mentor type figure to Jade. Unless it's some type of set up for a villain, then I'd probably be more open to the possession angle.
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We already had hologram projector in mkx as Sektor. Now we will have "barbara one kenoby". :d
 
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