Mortal Kombat 11 General Discussion Media Thread
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mandead
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Yes, Reptile is a favourite of mine too, although he's quite combo-heavy so I find him difficult to play well. I tend to prefer slower, brawler-type characters with shorter combo strings and more reliance on specials - Kotal, Jax (outside of Wrestler, which was impossible for me to learn), etc. I definitely think Reptile should be in, though - ideally he and Smoke (or Noob) could be unlockables.
As for Rain, I take your point, but he'd only have a couple of lightning moves; it's not really his focus, which is water-based moves... and obviously that epic roundhouse kick.
mandead
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Going by Super's video... (and he believes the 25-slot roster is a placeholder and there'll be nearer 30 at release - I don't)
Confirmed:
01 Sub-Zero
02 Scorpion
03 Skarlet
04 Raiden
05 Sonya Blade
06 Geras
07 Baraka
08 Kabal
09 D'Vorah
10 Kano
Semi-confirmed/teased in media:
11 Kitana
12 Liu Kang
13 Johnny Cage
14 Cassie Cage
15 Kung Lao
16 Shang Tsung (foreshadowed throughout, flaming skull fireball, has his own stage, the need for a sorcerer archetype)
Leaked on Steam achievements:
17 Erron Black
18 Jacqui Briggs
19 Jade
20 Frost
21 Kotal Kahn
22 _TER*
23 _KOL*
24 _CET*
Pre-order DLC:
25 Shao Kahn
There's your launch roster. Thoughts?
* It's possible these are either new characters (likely) or returning characters NRS wished to keep secret (unlikely - they never expected these codes to be leaked). My money is on one being Kronika (I don't buy her being unplayable - she'll be the story mode unlock I'm sure) and I think there's a reasonable chance another is Kano's son, but that's just gut instinct from me and I'm not basing it on any evidence.
Confirmed:
01 Sub-Zero
02 Scorpion
03 Skarlet
04 Raiden
05 Sonya Blade
06 Geras
07 Baraka
08 Kabal
09 D'Vorah
10 Kano
Semi-confirmed/teased in media:
11 Kitana
12 Liu Kang
13 Johnny Cage
14 Cassie Cage
15 Kung Lao
16 Shang Tsung (foreshadowed throughout, flaming skull fireball, has his own stage, the need for a sorcerer archetype)
Leaked on Steam achievements:
17 Erron Black
18 Jacqui Briggs
19 Jade
20 Frost
21 Kotal Kahn
22 _TER*
23 _KOL*
24 _CET*
Pre-order DLC:
25 Shao Kahn
There's your launch roster. Thoughts?
* It's possible these are either new characters (likely) or returning characters NRS wished to keep secret (unlikely - they never expected these codes to be leaked). My money is on one being Kronika (I don't buy her being unplayable - she'll be the story mode unlock I'm sure) and I think there's a reasonable chance another is Kano's son, but that's just gut instinct from me and I'm not basing it on any evidence.
white_ninja
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Even MKX has Scorpion, SZ, Reptile, Ermac and Tremor. I can’t imagine this roster to be true with Scorpion and Sub-Zero being the only male ninjas. We need Noob Saibot and Smoke back since they aren’t in MKX. We also need Reptile and Ermac.
The lack of ninjas is disturbing. I hope they release a remastered MK9 for this gen of consoles. This game was perfect and has the perfect roster.
The lack of ninjas is disturbing. I hope they release a remastered MK9 for this gen of consoles. This game was perfect and has the perfect roster.
if this is the roster then really we are only gettin 7-10 new characters....i find that dissapointing if im being honest. imo most of the roster should be new
Commander
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Because people love MK1 thru UMK3 characters more, so characters like Fujin have less of a chance of showing up on the main roster, even when it's blatantly obvious that he should have made the cut, like in MKX.
Plus, there's Ed Boon's 2nd favorite character (Kenshi) that also hasn't been considered, and I doubt that Fujin will get a spot over him.
Reptil3
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Is that list including the secret characters we are getting?
After all secret characters have been confirmed to appear in MK11.
2 big problems with that list stand out quite a lot
1. The lack of ninjas people have already pointed out. Unless they are planning on shifting away from ninjas in MK from this game onward it wouldn't make sense besides it would be career suicide. As much we all know a ninja kombat pack would sell like crazy, it would be a very bad idea too so I don't see that as a possibility.
2.Looking at that list you have there the only possible secret character I see is a new character or Jade given her history.
And even then would secret characters be leaked in that steam list?
Now it would help if you possibly add one or two of the following:
Reptile (bias I know lol)
Noob
Smoke
Ermac
Meat? LOL
Lastly, wasn't the Spanish voice actor for reptile complaining he was "replaced"?
Commander
Well-known member
The flaming skull is just Dark Emperor Liu Kang, imo, and I'm thinking that Shao Kahn isn't part of the main menu 25 (like Goro in MKX, added later along with the "?" box) but the rest looks about right.
I DO think that 1 of those spots is either Reptile, with the other 2nd to last spot being Rain (due to the main menu), Noob or Smoke, though, especially since Reptile usually doesn't sit out games.
mandead
Active member
[MENTION=5283]Reptil3[/MENTION]
I wouldn't get carried away with the idea of unlockable characters - I think it'll be Kronika for doing story mode, and possibly one other for getting half-way or something. Don't expect more than that - whatever NRS hints at. When they say "yes, there'll be unlockable characters" I simply take that to mean one unlockable character, as in MKX and IJ2.
I agree with you about the lack of ninjas, but Rain is looking sketchy now and I think we can rule out Ermac - he's dead (Shang Tsung - presumably) and Raiden now has his levitate move AFAIK.
Noob is, along with Jade, super highly requested, so if anyone was a secret unlockable I reckon it'd be him, but again I wouldn't hold your breath here.
Smoke, unfortunately, I think is going to be DLC. I'm not sure about Reptile - you'd think he'd be in, but it's not looking like he is, and so I wonder if they'd dare to have him as DLC this time around. Who knows.
Either way, even if you say it's 25 + Shao Kahn (giving you an extra slot) we're still missing most of the ninjas. This means either a) the roster is going to be larger than the reveal roster would suggest, or b) we're all going to be disappointed, and some of the ninjas are being relegated to DLC.
What do you guys think?
[MENTION=5028]Commander[/MENTION]
Possibly, although I still don't think we're going to get a game without either Quan Chi or Shang Tsung, and Quan Chi definitely won't be in MK11. I think Shang will be back - it'd be very odd to have no sorcerer in a modern MK game, and so far there really isn't anyone who fills that role. Geras obviously has some powers, but he's more like Tremor than a sorcerer.
I agree that Reptile being left out is odd (as is Kenshi, simply because Boon loves him) but they have to draw a line somewhere. I dunno. I'm not really liking this so far tbh - I'm keeping my fingers crossed for Rain.
I wouldn't get carried away with the idea of unlockable characters - I think it'll be Kronika for doing story mode, and possibly one other for getting half-way or something. Don't expect more than that - whatever NRS hints at. When they say "yes, there'll be unlockable characters" I simply take that to mean one unlockable character, as in MKX and IJ2.
I agree with you about the lack of ninjas, but Rain is looking sketchy now and I think we can rule out Ermac - he's dead (Shang Tsung - presumably) and Raiden now has his levitate move AFAIK.
Noob is, along with Jade, super highly requested, so if anyone was a secret unlockable I reckon it'd be him, but again I wouldn't hold your breath here.
Smoke, unfortunately, I think is going to be DLC. I'm not sure about Reptile - you'd think he'd be in, but it's not looking like he is, and so I wonder if they'd dare to have him as DLC this time around. Who knows.
Either way, even if you say it's 25 + Shao Kahn (giving you an extra slot) we're still missing most of the ninjas. This means either a) the roster is going to be larger than the reveal roster would suggest, or b) we're all going to be disappointed, and some of the ninjas are being relegated to DLC.
What do you guys think?
[MENTION=5028]Commander[/MENTION]
Possibly, although I still don't think we're going to get a game without either Quan Chi or Shang Tsung, and Quan Chi definitely won't be in MK11. I think Shang will be back - it'd be very odd to have no sorcerer in a modern MK game, and so far there really isn't anyone who fills that role. Geras obviously has some powers, but he's more like Tremor than a sorcerer.
I agree that Reptile being left out is odd (as is Kenshi, simply because Boon loves him) but they have to draw a line somewhere. I dunno. I'm not really liking this so far tbh - I'm keeping my fingers crossed for Rain.
Tarkatan Trash
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I don't care about the details of her story. I just want her to have the SNK Boss Syndrome.
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MKLegion
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I'm of the opinion that Shao will indeed take up a 26th slot which will free up two spaces, which I think will go to Shang and maybe Noob Saibot or some other ninja. Personally I really like this roster, it's a decent mix of eras though I would prefer 1 more 3D era rep. A lot better than what I thought we would get (I mean like the trilogy cast but I really didn't want MK9 2.0). And yea, if we don't get more ninjas I guarantee we are gonna get some added from the Kombat Pack. Noob may be the one to do so since they know he's popular and will sell units along with whatever guests they throw in.
Reptil3
New member
They said Kronika isn't playable.. so you don't believe NRS when they clearly stated that?
Shinnok was only playable because he was that way in MK4, don't get carried away dude.
It's not as if we could unlock bosses in MK9.
You say it's not looking likely for the others to be in right? Sorry but isn't that the whole idea behind having secret characters?
What do you expect them to do months ahead of release? To tease secret characters more than they already did?
It's a really bold move for them to put ALL of those characters DLC, that will make them look so money hungry lol.
As far as I'm concerned I'd like DLC to be for characters they want to test the waters with e.g. Tremor, MK9 Skarlet etc.
characters that haven't featured in a long time or just characters that really need a second chance.
Misucra
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There is no policy against that. Achievements are created by the developers, not Steam. Developers have the right to modify the achievements at any time they want. Especially before launch.
Source = working with Steam for my own little game. Their policy is clear on that one. Hence why we have so many crappy puzzle games with 200 achievements. There are no restriction with them (aside offensive content)
There is no evidence. Dev could be applying achievements right now, but to avoid spoilers they could have changed certain names until the launch.
So we will see once characters are actually revealed. Cause a data that can be changed at any time, is no evidence.
Also just because Ketchup wrote something, doesn't mean it proves something. He isn't part of inner NRS development. So he wouldn't know this early.
mandead
Active member
NRS say a lot of stuff, and not all of it is true. There's also the fact that people willfully misinterpret things NRS say - usually in a very optimistic fashion.
i.e. "there will be unlockable characters" - we know, realistically, there won't be more than two, and it may even just be one. People who are wanting a return to the days of a third of the roster being unlockable characters are setting themselves up for massive disappointment. NRS don't make games like that anymore, and a lot of tourney players who don't play much SP content would be pissed at this being the case.
I don't believe Kronika will be an unplayable boss, no, and you can quote me on this nearer release. I think she'll be playable (in some form) and I imagine she'll be unlocked by completing story mode. On top of that, as [MENTION=5028]Commander[/MENTION] has said, I think that if Shang isn't in then Kronina will probably fulfil some sort of sorceress-type role.
[MENTION=16568]Misucra[/MENTION]
Thanks for the clarification there - I'm not a developer so I don't know about Steam achievement criteria. That said, I'm not sure NRS are actually in the habit of messing around with such things simply to trick people. My guess is that the achievements are legit and they are genuinely disappointed that a number of remaining reveals have been leaked, but I guess it's possible I'm wrong. I doubt I am on this one, though.
Don't set yourself up for disappointment, folks. We're not going to get a 30 character roster and we're not going to get a bunch of classic ninjas as unlocks.
