SPOILER ALERT:Mortal Kombat X DIGITAL COMIC DISCUSSION

It just doesn't make sense. If that scene takes places during the Netherrealm war then Cassie and Jacqui's ages don't match at all.

Unless you are cool with them being around 10 years old in the comic.

MK+2: Shinnok gets imprisoned.

MK+1-5: Flashback scene from chapter 6 in MKX.

MK+5: Quan Chi defeated. Cassie and Jacqui are born around this time.

MK+10-15: Chapter 6 of the comic.

MK+20: Hanzo, Takeda and Kuai's flashbacks in MKX.

It just doesn't add up.
 
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IMO it's quite obvious the stories were written by different people with no exactly communication.

BBBLP said an important thing. In the comics, Black is not a pure mercenary, while, in the game, pays him, and he does anything.

It's not a matter of him being loyal to Kotal, but a matter of him being less egocentric than he is shown in the game, because the comics showed him as a "good controversial character", while he is a neutral mercenary character with no such thing.

The same for Scorpion, who in the comics cares for people (he even said that in the last comic), but he didn't care about nobody in the game (but Takeda). Besides the fact that he gets angry in the comic and goes full rage, in the game, discovering his family true killer, nothing special happened with his powers.

The same for Kotal. His betrayal was extremely incoherent with what we have seen in the comics.

IMO it's obvious Kittelsen, though a good writer, wrote everything with all freedom and created some scenarios that are not on the original.

All that Cassie & Jacqui story with Erron Black, I can't believe that story of "it's been many years", Cassie looked like she never visited Outworld and never knew Erron Black. Too many inconsistencies.
 
It just doesn't make sense. If that scene takes places during the Netherrealm war then Cassie and Jacqui's ages don't match at all.

Unless you are cool with them being around 10 years old in the comic.

MK+2: Shinnok gets imprisoned.

MK+1-5: Flashback scene from chapter 6 in MKX.

MK+5: Quan Chi defeated. Cassie and Jacqui are born around this time.

MK+10-15: Chapter 6 of the comic.

MK+20: Hanzo, Takeda and Kuai's flashbacks in MKX.

It just doesn't add up.

I think there's some confusion going on here.

Chapter 2 was said to be 20 years after Chapter 1 when it did the fast forward. However, we know that it's actually more like 23 years as the MK9 flashback was said to be twenty-five years before and we know Chapter 1 takes place 2 years after that game. You can't say Quan Chi's defeat was three years after Chapter 1 when that's not said anywhere in the game and both flashbacks are said to be 20 years before the present story, and I find it kind of hard to believe it'd take them 3 years to go into the Netherrealm.

Cassie and Jacqui could have been born later that year after Quan Chi's defeat, and the comic has been said to be around the 15 year mark, just like how the game itself has Chapters 1 and 5's flashbacks around 20 years before the present day. The comic could actually be like 17 and that'd still be correct, with both Cassie and Jacqui being 15.

IMO it's quite obvious the stories were written by different people with no exactly communication.

BBBLP said an important thing. In the comics, Black is not a pure mercenary, while, in the game, pays him, and he does anything.

It's not a matter of him being loyal to Kotal, but a matter of him being less egocentric than he is shown in the game, because the comics showed him as a "good controversial character", while he is a neutral mercenary character with no such thing.

The same for Scorpion, who in the comics cares for people (he even said that in the last comic), but he didn't care about nobody in the game (but Takeda). Besides the fact that he gets angry in the comic and goes full rage, in the game, discovering his family true killer, nothing special happened with his powers.

The same for Kotal. His betrayal was extremely incoherent with what we have seen in the comics.

IMO it's obvious Kittelsen, though a good writer, wrote everything with all freedom and created some scenarios that are not on the original.

All that Cassie & Jacqui story with Erron Black, I can't believe that story of "it's been many years", Cassie looked like she never visited Outworld and never knew Erron Black. Too many inconsistencies.

I strongly disagree with Kotal's comic portrayal being inconsistent with his betrayal in the game. They're both a result of the same characterization: he cares first and foremost for Outworld.

Also how can you say Scorpion didn't care for anyone but Takeda in the game? He didn't want to fight Sonya or Johnny, gave explicit instructions for the Shirai Ryu (who I'm sure he also cares about) to not kill anyone at the refugee camp, and he was shown to very much value his friendship with Kenshi and didn't want it broken. He definitely cared for a lot of people.
 
Wait, I need some assistance here.
Okay, so some people in this thread have been saying that the Komic is obviously incorrect and pointing out how it can't be tied to the game.
Then other said that it is correct and pointed out things that are tied to the game.
Also
Some of you said the intros prove nothing is referencing to the comic,
But I have a question about that.
Spoiler:
Doesn't goro die in the comics? In a Kano intro, Kano says "Aren't you dead?" Would that be another comic reference?
 
I strongly disagree with Kotal's comic portrayal being inconsistent with his betrayal in the game. They're both a result of the same characterization: he cares first and foremost for Outworld.

Also how can you say Scorpion didn't care for anyone but Takeda in the game? He didn't want to fight Sonya or Johnny, gave explicit instructions for the Shirai Ryu (who I'm sure he also cares about) to not kill anyone at the refugee camp, and he was shown to very much value his friendship with Kenshi and didn't want it broken. He definitely cared for a lot of people.

He cared more than before, but he gave a strong screw Kung Lao and Liu Kang.

Kotal could have turned his back and run to Outworld to prepare his defenses, he was wondering delivering the heroes head to Shinnok and THEN protecting Outworld (as if Shinnok would care)!

But these are not the only inconsistencies.

I just disagree with the one about Kotal's color :laugh:

People won't paint him in the comics like he paints himself. It's easier to paint him blue/green.

Or maybe they just didn't notice he indeed paints himself.
 
He cared more than before, but he gave a strong screw Kung Lao and Liu Kang.

Kotal could have turned his back and run to Outworld to prepare his defenses, he was wondering delivering the heroes head to Shinnok and THEN protecting Outworld (as if Shinnok would care)!

But these are not the only inconsistencies.

I just disagree with the one about Kotal's color :laugh:

People won't paint him in the comics like he paints himself. It's easier to paint him blue/green.

Or maybe they just didn't notice he indeed paints himself.

He could have retreated to Outworld, yeah, but he didn't know how long it would be before Shinnok attacked. Killing Shinnok's enemies for the guy would have some chance of pleasing him and give Outworld more time to prepare his defenses.
 
I think there's some confusion going on here.

Chapter 2 was said to be 20 years after Chapter 1 when it did the fast forward. However, we know that it's actually more like 23 years as the MK9 flashback was said to be twenty-five years before and we know Chapter 1 takes place 2 years after that game. You can't say Quan Chi's defeat was three years after Chapter 1 when that's not said anywhere in the game and both flashbacks are said to be 20 years before the present story, and I find it kind of hard to believe it'd take them 3 years to go into the Netherrealm.

Cassie and Jacqui could have been born later that year after Quan Chi's defeat, and the comic has been said to be around the 15 year mark, just like how the game itself has Chapters 1 and 5's flashbacks around 20 years before the present day. The comic could actually be like 17 and that'd still be correct, with both Cassie and Jacqui being 15.

Not gonna lie I didn't see that 20 years after in chapter 2.

God, the whole timeline is a mess. According to Jax, Quan Chi hasn't shown is face in 25 years. :comp:

Edit: One way to explain some of the flashbacks is that the intro and chapter 1 don't happen back to back. Shinnok attacks Earthrealm 2 years after Shao Kahn's death and the war lasts 3 years. That's the only way I see them making sense.
 
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Not gonna lie I didn't see that 20 years after in chapter 2.

God, the whole timeline is a mess. According to Jax, Quan Chi hasn't shown is face in 25 years. :comp:

Edit: One way to explain some of the flashbacks is that the intro and chapter 1 don't happen back to back. Shinnok attacks Earthrealm 2 years after Shao Kahn's death and the war lasts 3 years. That's the only way I see them making sense.

I don't see any point in putting a gap between the intro and Chapter 1. They'd just have Johnny say "five years ago" if that was the case and make it not a problem to begin with, and it very much sounds like that's intended to be Johnny where we find him at the start of Chapter 1 talking.

It's really not worth trying to think that hard on. "20 years later" or "20 years ago" can just as easily mean "around 20 years later" or around "around 20 years ago", not that exact same date and everything. NRS seemed to just want to keep everything simple with only dating 20 or 5 years ago, and 25 the one time.
 
I think it's really not an inconsistency and just showing there's more than one side to characters. Erron's not going to kill some kids.

Also, I do think some of his dialogue does show him to have some sense of loyalty towards Kotal as his employer. ("But my employer, Kotal Kahn, is from Outworld. So now I'm Outworld.") There's also how pissed off he was at Rain.

Agreed. He also says things mid-match like "The Kahn sends his regards" and other stuff.

I really didn't like #17. Felt so short, I feel like this story would have been better told if it was released all at once, rather than one chapter per week. It's annoying waiting every week for a small chapter that doesn't really give any character development whatsoever.
 
I've been giving the timeline a lot of thought, taking Sub-Zero's (very revealing) flashbacks into account, and I've come away with the conclusion that the timeline - even in the comic - is completely fuxxed. [MENTION=18507]Harpoon[/MENTION] pls halp

This is what I have so far.

MK9
+2 years - Shinnok is defeated by Johnny Cage. The earliest possible time Cassie Cage could have been conceived.
+unknown - Sonya and Johnny assault Quan Chi's fortress. Scorpion, Jax, and Kuai Liang are returned to life.
+unknown - Kenshi helps Scorpion become a functional member of society.
+"months later" from the assault - Kuai Liang wakes up in the Sky Temple.
+"a few days later" - Kuai Liang departs from the Sky Temple looking for Raiden's lost Kamidogu.
+unknown - Kuai Liang fights Kano for Raiden's lost Kamidogu. Kenshi and Scorpion kill Hsu Hao. Takeda is at least 6 years old. Kenshi says that Hanzo conquered Scorpion "years ago."

MK9+17 - the earliest possible time Cassie Cage could be 15 years old, which is the youngest possible age she could be in the main timeline.

-issue #11 eventually happens, in which Raiden tells Scorpion to go save Sub-Zero to save everyone. Scorpion finds Sub-Zero in a matter of days.

So this is messed up for a number of reasons, not just in terms of chronology but also in what that chronology implies.

Being as generous to Kittelsen's timeline as humanly possible, let's say that Kenshi found Scorpion a few days/weeks after Scorpion's resurrection, so we get the recovery out of the way as quickly as possible.

Being generous again, let's say that the "months later" in Kuai Liang's recovery means 11, the most months "months" can be before turning into "a year later."

For Kenshi's statement that "Scorpion conquered his demons years ago" to be true, at the bare minimum another 13 months must have passed. The only place those 13 months can come from is Kuai Liang's search for Raiden's lost Kamidogu. But... really? I mean... really? Over a year of his life Kuai Liang devoted entirely to the search for the Kamidogu Raiden lost? A year is a very long time. Later, Scorpion will track Kuai Liang down within days of being asked to do so.

And then, all because Raiden forgot to mention "don't get cut," Kuai Liang was enslaved by Havik?

And then, all because Raiden apparently couldn't care enough to send someone or go looking himself (this despite the fact that Scorpion finds Kuai Liang with a bare minimum of effort), Kuai Liang ends up serving Havik for FIVE TO TEN YEARS?

And then, in MKX, Sub-Zero is... still... a good guy? Is he like the most heroic hero who ever lived, to put up with this bullshit despite the fact that he potentially lost over ten years of his life to Raiden's carelessness?

So to sum up, for Kenshi's statement that Hanzo conquered Scorpion "years ago" to be true in the weakest possible sense - "years" being taken to mean the least possible, 2, instead of the implied more than 2 - Kenshi's redemption of Scorpion must have happened within like the first month of Scorpion coming back to life and Kuai Liang must have completely screwed the pooch on tracking down the Kamidogu Raiden lost, for over a year.

At which point Kuai Liang must have gone into hiding for 5-10 years, sitting around with the Kamidogu, not actually killing anyone so as not to draw attention to himself -- or else Raiden would have found him as easily as Scorpion did, years ago... because even if we buy that Raiden doesn't care about Kuai Liang and is happy to let him rot for 5-10 years, he wouldn't be so careless with a Kamidogu.

P.S. In issue #2, Raiden warns Scorpion that before he could repair the barriers that protect Earthrealm from the realms beyond (i.e. Chaosrealm), a powerful demon (i.e. Havik) slipped through. But when did Havik slip through? He was already able to control Kuai Liang through the dagger 5-10 years ago, so if he slipped through right after the NRW, either Raiden took 5-10 years to catch on, or he decided not to warn the people Havik would come after (Scorpion, Jax) for years because... reasons. Neither scenario seems likely. Or does Raiden mean that Havik slipped through just now, in person? Because we're 16 issues in and Havik hasn't stepped foot on Earthrealm, on-screen, once. Why did he slip through if he could just send Reiko in his stead, as he did in issue #15, without triggering any alarms? Or just use Sub-Zero? Does Havik need to slip through temporarily to amplify the daggers' power - e.g. to corrupt Forrest Fox from a distance? And why doesn't he just amplify the power of Jax's Kamidogu to make it corrupt Vera or someone else nearby (I assume powerful champions must be corrupted directly)?

Hmm. Hmm hmm hmm. This plot.

But these are not the only inconsistencies.

Like [MENTION=18507]Harpoon[/MENTION] said, the Kotal thing isn't an inconsistency at all. The problem in that scene IS NOT Kotal Kahn, the problem in that scene is the fact that Shinnok comes down with a serious case of "I'm a villain in the third act, so it's time I got beat" syndrome. If the next chapter of the game had Cassie's group run into the Sky Temple and Shinnok just kills them all instantly because that's how powerful he is, then Kotal Kahn's behavior would have made 100% perfect sense. As with the Outworld/Netherrealm time frame, the source of the confusion is the game itself, not the comic.

Don't be such a Nitpicking Nancy. :)
 
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Like [MENTION=18507]Harpoon[/MENTION] said, the Kotal thing isn't an inconsistency at all. The problem in that scene IS NOT Kotal Kahn, the problem in that scene is the fact that Shinnok comes down with a serious case of "I'm a villain in the third act, so it's time I got beat" syndrome. If the next chapter of the game had Cassie's group run into the Sky Temple and Shinnok just kills them all instantly because that's how powerful he is, then Kotal Kahn's behavior would have made 100% perfect sense. As with the Outworld/Netherrealm time frame, the source of the confusion is the game itself, not the comic.

Don't be such a Nitpicking Nancy. :)

That's not the ooooonly thing that seems to distant from both versions.

What's a "Nitpicking Nancy"? :laugh:
 
[MENTION=18661]p.W[/MENTION] Takeda was 8 when Kenshi left him with Hanzo. He trained 10 years with him and left with his father 5 years before MKX.

That puts him at 23 in MKX.
 
Re: Kuai Liang--that big gap in the timeline is definitely a problem. I'd like to pretend that scene at the end of Chapter 1 actually takes place closer to the present day in the comic, but Kano's talk about it happening "years ago" kind of prevents it from taking place right then. Kittelsen implied not too long ago he had plans to elaborate on just what Sub-Zero was doing in all that time, and I'd like to think he wasn't just spending it all being possessed.

Also, I think the intention was that Raiden had only just finally repaired the barriers, and realized that someone had recently slipped through in that time. (and not necessarily in a physical manner)
 
[MENTION=18661]p.W[/MENTION] Takeda was 8 when Kenshi left him with Hanzo. He trained 10 years with him and left with his father 5 years before MKX.

That puts him at 23 in MKX.

Ha! I scoured the comic for that information, but didn't think to check the flashback in the game... thanks.

That's not the ooooonly thing that seems to distant from both versions.

What's a "Nitpicking Nancy"? :laugh:

Someone who asks silly questions. :-D You must admit that these are very, very small discrepancies. The Kotal one isn't a discrepancy at all, it's just a case of poor writing in the game. Nothing Shawn could have written in the comic could have prepared us for that scene, except making Kotal a moron... which would have gone against his characterization in the rest of the game.

Re: Kuai Liang--that big gap in the timeline is definitely a problem. I'd like to pretend that scene at the end of Chapter 1 actually takes place closer to the present day in the comic, but Kano's talk about it happening "years ago" kind of prevents it from taking place right then. Kittelsen implied not too long ago he had plans to elaborate on just what Sub-Zero was doing in all that time, and I'd like to think he wasn't just spending it all being possessed.

No way we're not stuck with Kuai Liang searching for the dagger for over a year, though, huh...
 
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Someone who asks silly questions. :-D You must admit that these are very, very small discrepancies. The Kotal one isn't a discrepancy at all, it's just a case of poor writing in the game. Nothing Shawn could have written in the comic could have prepared us for that scene, except making Kotal a moron... which would have gone against his characterization in the rest of the game.

Hahahah but my point is not saying the comics are bad written, on the contrary, I'm pointing that it's obvious that it was given so much freedom to Kittelsen to the point that he may have wrote on darkness, and maybe just the superficial story of the game, which is predominant, was shown to him.

Though small discrepancies, some are annoying, treating people that he pointed to have some relation as strangers.

Of course, making an harmonic interpretation, we can try to fit. But some small things does not fit naturally, without our good will.
 
Another crack at the timeline:

MK
+ 2 years:
- Mileena gets dethroned and imprisoned. Kotal Kahn becomes emperor of Outworld.
- Shinnok is defeated and imprisoned.
- Quan Chi is defeated. Hanzo, Liang and Jax are freed.
- Cassie, Jacqui and Takeda are born months later.

+ 7 years:
- Mileena escapes imprisonment and starts a rebellion against Kotal Kahn.

+ 10 years:
- Takeda is left with Hanzo.
- Liang finds and gets possessed by a Kamidogu dagger.

+ 17 years:
- Main events of the comic.

+ 20 years:
- Takeda completes his training with Hanzo and leaves with Kenshi.
- Jin joins the Shaolin.
- Hanzo and Liang reconcile.

+ 25 years:
- Main events of MKX.
 
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[MENTION=20844]ZombieVito[/MENTION]

Looks legit.

Shawn's got his work cut out for him with Kuai's two 7-year long MIA stints.
 
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