Your wishlist for MK10

I never said you have to buy another installment if you don't want to and don't compare me to people telling you to buy Freddy that's also optional. They are probably just telling you that if too many people don't support dlc, they might stop it because they aren't seeing returns is all.



I would buy a new MK If my favorite characters die, which two of them did. Because I like the entire cast and story enough to buy the next.

If someone stopped watching x-men because they kill off wolverine. Then that guy just loves wolverine if he never watches x-men again. Apparently an mk w/o subzero is worth half has much as a MK with subzero in it.

I got it, subzero is more important than most of the rest of the stuff. That's fine.

But that still means you hold subzero high above everything else about the game and that he shines way harder for you than the rest of the story for you to make a decision like that.
 
Metal Overlord said:
I don't see how an MK game with gory fatalities, 2D fighting, the Krypt, a rich story experience and almost every other MK character wouldn't feel like a "true MK game", but whatever

People do that same shit with other games like Pokemon Colosseum (BUT THERE'S NO WILD POKEMON HOW CAN IT BE A TRUE POKEMON GAME!!!!!!!!!!!) and even the original MK3 (WHERE'S SCORPION WTH IS THIS THIS ISN'T MK!!!!!!!!!), so I guess it's inevitable
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To each his own.
It doesn't feel like a true MK, TO ME.

Metal Overlord said:
And since you claim to be a fan for so long, it doesn't really make you any better than the bandwagon jumpers you seem to look down upon, since you would be willing to turn your back on a series that you've loved for a long time just because one character isn't in a game
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You and I have 2 complete and distinct views on what a bandwagon person really is.
First of all, I speak of the bandwagon jumper who come to the MK series only when it's hot, and jump back off.
I have NO problem with people who bandwagon and become long-time fans.
Apples and Oranges.

Secondly, please re-read my first sentence before you just simply ASSume.
I said that I would get it when it went down to $10 - $15 down the road, meaning used.
Used = my $$$ going to GameStop or Best Buy instead.
I wouldn't be turning my back on the series, instead I would be voting with my wallet, and NRS won't see any of it.
Simple as that.

Metal Overlord said:
I hate the fact that Scorpion has to be in every game just because of his seniority and iconic status, especially since his story is pretty much the same shit in every game. I've been playing MK almost non-stop since I was 5 years old. I'm about to be 17 in 2 days. You don't see me going, "Scorpion is in the game? **** that, I ain't buyin' that shit 'cause NRS is too much of a pussy to ever leave him out for a new character once"

It's ultimately your prerogative if you don't want to buy MK10 because of no Sub-Zero. But, with that in mind, don't get mad at others if they challenge whether you're a "true fan" of MK, considering what I've just said
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Metal Overlord, please, please, please read my first sentence over again, and the rest of my reply for that matter.
I don't want to pre-order a game that I don't agree with.
If you want to blindly pre-order everything that NRS shits out, then that's YOUR prerogative, but it doesn't make me any less of a fan because I don't buy into all their bull-shit.


The same thing happened with Metal Gear and Metallica, both which are some of my favorite other IP's.

Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance will not see 1 red cent from me, because it's not a true Metal Gear game to me.
I am however going to get Metal Gear Solid 5 when it comes out.
Does it make me less of a fan??? NO
I decided to sit out 1 game, and buy the next game that follows.
You don't see me here sitting on my perch, saying that people aren't MK fans because they didn't buy MKvsDC or Armageddon.
If they didn't want to buy those games because they didn't like the premise behind it, then why should they be labeled as LESS any of a fan, just because you claim to be such a high-and-mighty MK fan who blindly buys everything.

With Metallica, I skipped out on the St. Anger album because I didn't like it.
I borrowed it from a friend, didn't like it, and therefore didn't buy it.
I have every other Metallica album that they ever came out with.
Does it make me less of a fan because I didn't buy 1 album? NO

Honestly, do you hear yourself?
Do you hear how ridiculous that sounds?
 
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lol

You know I love you Araknyd, but PLEASE follow your own advice:

Metal Overlord said:
since you would be willing to turn your back on a series that you've loved for a long time just because one character isn't in a game
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^ I never said that not buying or liking the game itself doesn't make you a "true fan" (I hate that phrase, but I'll roll with it for argument's sake), I was referring to the reasoning behind not buying it

It's obvious that you don't have to like every game or agree with everything NRS does to be considered a "true fan", because by that logic, I sure as hell wouldn't be one, either

But you won't buy the game or hold off on it because of one character not being in it? It's not something like, "Oh, what I've seen of it doesn't really interest me from the trailers" or something similar as is the case with your MG Rising: Revengeance example. It's just, "Oh, Sub-Zero isn't it, so, nah, I'll pass for now". You and I know both know there's way more to MK than just him, so that strongly implies that that ONE character is more important to you than everything else (I know how you always like to play the "Don't assume things please" angle, so keep in mind that I just said strongly IMPLIES when you reply to this). THAT'S what I'm trying to say here

And you didn't say that you would definitely buy the game if such a thing were to happen at first, you said maybe. Maybe =/= will. Get your own statements in line before telling me to reread it and not assume because that sort of shit kinda matters in a discussion like this
 
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Araknyd how is subzero becoming a robot bullshit. Since you claim the reason you won't buy it on release is that reason.

Please try to answer with a logical reason on why that's a bad move without resorting to asthetics.
 
Critical-Limit said:
Araknyd how is subzero becoming a robot bullshit. Since you claim the reason you won't buy it on release is that reason.

Please try to answer with a logical reason on why that's a bad move without resorting to asthetics.
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Aesthetics and story must be mentioned though, since we aren't debating gameplay, rather the mere existence of Sub-Zero, at all.

I feel as if Cyber Sub-Zero doesn't have anything to offer story-wise.
Granted he would be much better than not having Sub-Zero in at all, but I'm going to go into a viscous circle from the Sub-Zero coming back thread if I bring that up again.

As a robot where would Sub-Zero's story lead him?
Sure, he can be reprogrammed to work for Raiden's forces, as Jax did in MK9's Story Mode, but then what after that?
What makes him unique enough as a robot that hasn't been done with Cyrax and Sektor, Story-wise or any of the other EarthRealm warriors?

I know that story isn't too important to you, because you focus more on the competitive side, which I completely respect. ;-)
Story MUST be mentioned though because neither Human or Cyber Sub-Zero can return without a viable explanation, which I've also expressed in previous threads.

(I gave a good plausible explanation for the possibility of either Bi-Han or Kuai-Liang being human again, which people shat on anyways :().

I don't see him coming back as a cyborg, because according to MK9's Story Mode he is dead and is amongst the dead souls under Quan Chi's control (Chapter 17, when you fight as Raiden in the NetherRealm).
The most logical solution, IMO, is if Sub-Zero came back, with a human body as a host for his soul.
Just as Ermac's body is a host for 1,000 souls, I don't see why Raiden can't find a human body as a host for Sub-Zero's soul, in an effort to bring him back.
That being said, if human Sub-Zero came back he could help save Sareena this time around (instead of Sareena saving him), and maybe she helps him in reforming the Lin Kuei or form a new clan altogether that vows to protect EarthRealm.
The newly reformed Lin Kuei (or clan) could serve as a major help, by joining EarthRealm and Outworld, against the forces of evil (Quan Chi, Shinnok and the NetherRealm).
Shinnok said at the end of MK9 that both EarthRealm and Outworld were too weak for the NetherRealm's onslaught, so I could see a scenario in which the newly reformed Lin Kuei help balance the battle out.
 
iViTal said:
That was a cool idea of bring Sub Zero back o-o

Just put him in a Female body and call him frost :rolleyes:
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I know that you're joking and that you and Nasty_freak are all about the female characters, but doing that would ruin his iconic image just as much if not more.
 
Araknyd_Commander said:
I know that you're joking and that you and Nasty_freak are all about the female characters, but doing that would ruin his iconic image just as much if not more.
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I just want Frost in MK10 :cry:

My list revised:

-A bland training room with no distractions, Similar to AE's training stage with the squares over the entire stage. The squares could help players learn the spacing of each of their Normals and Specials, also add this stage as a Multiplayer stage for player like myself who don't want any distraction in the background while playing.
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-Revised Training mode, With recording CPU options to help players with their punishment timing and practice AA combo'ing and just to get familiar with things they have a hard time fighting against online.

-Holding back to block in MK, It'll add more depth to the game with the Cross up option off a safe jump, however there's a con to this also.. People may find ways to create unblockables with holding back to block.

-Frame Data guide on release date.

Casual wishlist:

-Modern Character designs

-Frost :love:

-3 Costumes and Color select option for EVERY character, including DLC.

-Tag mode revised, and not broken :|
 
By aesthetics I ment looks. Don't use the human is cooler looking than robot is all I ment.

I believe the contrary that he can grow as a character as a cyborg he has free will. And not to bust your bubble but in the netherrealm raiden fought subzero as a cyborg not a human.
 
back said:
His body is also still in the Cathedral.
Remember he is a robot, he has no need for a soul.
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In story mode though, Cyber Sub says that his soul has been cleansed, indicating that he DOES indeed have a soul.


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Also, if Cyber Sub-Zero has no soul now then that's even more of a reason for Sub-Zero to come back human, if his soul is lost.
If the robot can operate on it's own without Sub-Zero's soul, then the soul can posses a human corpse as a host.
 
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You're not understanding me.

His body does not need a soul to operate. He is a cyborg, fully capable of functioning without it.
 
Even if we are talking aesthetics it's not like Cyber Sub Zero needs to look like how he did in MK9. There is much more you can do with his appearance than if he was human, just look at all the cyborgs we see in anime or the cyborg assassins from the metal gear series. He can be given a much more human like appearance somewhat like Cyrax's alternate from MKDA. Also just because he is a cyborg doesn't mean he can't be the grandmaster of the Lin Kuei again. He can still go searching for his past and come across his ancestral armor, which instead of wearing it in the traditional way he can create a new suit of enhanced cyber armor with its parts.

He has much more potential story wise compared to his human version since all what he did in the original timeline as human can be done in his cyborg form and him being a cyborg open up many new and interesting avenues.
 
back said:
You're not understanding me.

His body does not need a soul to operate. He is a cyborg, fully capable of functioning without it.
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Which is also why I said this:

Araknyd_Commander said:
Also, if Cyber Sub-Zero has no soul now then that's even more of a reason for Sub-Zero to come back human, if his soul is lost.
If the robot can operate on it's own without Sub-Zero's soul, then the soul can posses a human corpse as a host.
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What?

Since when was Sub-Zero a demon that could possess people?
You never saw Liu Kang's soul fly into a random Shaolin monk. And even if Sub-Zero could do that, he'd need to find the body of a Cyromancer, which I'd imagine to be very rare in Earthrealm, to have his ice powers.
 
back said:
What?

Since when was Sub-Zero a demon that could possess people?
You never saw Liu Kang's soul fly into a random Shaolin monk. And even if Sub-Zero could do that, he'd need to find the body of a Cyromancer, which I'd imagine to be very rare in Earthrealm, to have his ice powers.
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*Cough* Frost... *Cough*
 
back said:
What?

Since when was Sub-Zero a demon that could possess people?
You never saw Liu Kang's soul fly into a random Shaolin monk. And even if Sub-Zero could do that, he'd need to find the body of a Cyromancer, which I'd imagine to be very rare in Earthrealm, to have his ice powers.
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Smoke also came from the Lin Kuei, and he was revealed to be a demon in his MK9 ending.
Is it really THAT far fetched to say that Kuai-Liang may also be one?
Maybe that's why he and Smoke are such good friends.

Who says that he would need to find the body of a Cyromancer?
What if ice-wielding powers are just part of who he is?
 
Although I'm going to buy MK10 regardless of who's in it CSZ is a bad character because hs just has Sub Zero's and the other cyber ninjas moves just aesthetically different and if they change his moveset too much he'll lose his identity. So he adds nothing new to the table.
 
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