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Tarkatan Trash said:
Quan Chi has been known to use doppelgangers in the past to deceive his enemies and protect himself. This may or may not have been the case here.
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That doesn't seem to be the case here, though, IMO.

Raiden specifically told Bo Rai Cho that he needs Quan Chi to be alive, in order to get him to reverse Liu Kang and Kung Lao from being revenants and being restored.
Scorpion killing Quan Chi nullifies that possibility, and the proof is in the end scene where Raiden sends a warning to Liu Kang and Kitana (the NEW rulers of the NetherRealm) that "there are fates worse than death."
Also, if Quan Chi didn't really die, do you think he would just sit back and let Liu Kang and Kitana be the new rulers of the NetherRealm, rather than take that chance to be ruler himself?
 
So I guess we can squash the whole theory of the new timeline taking place in an "alternate universe" due to the fact that Mythologies still exists. Raiden just went back to a specific point in time in the same universe and changed a specific outcome, which were the events of MK9.

And for the love of God, please do not come back at me with responses like, "well wait, Cyrax and Sektor were in the first MK Tournament, but they weren't in MK1." Just use common sense and realize it's because they simply weren't invented at that time, there is no story or canon explanation for their appearances.

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Commander said:
That doesn't seem to be the case here, though, IMO.

Raiden specifically told Bo Rai Cho that he needs Quan Chi to be alive, in order to get him to reverse Liu Kang and Kung Lao from being revenants and being restored.
Scorpion killing Quan Chi nullifies that possibility, and the proof is in the end scene where Raiden sends a warning to Liu Kang and Kitana (the NEW rulers of the NetherRealm) that "there are fates worse than death."
Also, if Quan Chi didn't really die, do you think he would just sit back and let Liu Kang and Kitana be the new rulers of the NetherRealm, rather than take that chance to be ruler himself?
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Actually, yes. He is really behind the scenes kind of guy.

But I do credit the arcade endings with giving hints or possible future roles for the people from mk. So Quan may come back as an assassin to kill Rayden which may be out of control next time. I do not see him interacting much with Subby or Scorpion. The same as Goro do not have much to do with Liu Kang or Kung Lao here.
 
Also about Goro, it seems that his appearance motivations snding, dialogs etc. Contradicts everything in the Comic books. This with several other big plot holes confirms that Kittelsen did a lousy job in writing MKX comics prequel. It is a nice fan fic, though.
 
Tanya4eva said:
I also thought of arcade endings as NON-cannon. You believe they hold any weight?
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They are completely non canon.
But they give us hints about possible directions for characters. Some will be followed up (see Johnny cage green energy) some will dissipate (see Jade misterious woman). Some are just for fun (See Kuany of the house targareyn)
 
Yaniv Shmuel Avizrats said:
Also about Goro, it seems that his appearance motivations snding, dialogs etc. Contradicts everything in the Comic books. This with several other big plot holes confirms that Kittelsen did a lousy job in writing MKX comics prequel. It is a nice fan fic, though.
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Somehow, I don't think NRS really thought it that big an issue that Kittelsen don't stay in line with the DLC character who never shows up in story mode and his bio, ending, etc. are all kind of dubious canon to begin with. Never mind that the Shokan could still end up being outcast, especially with how they have turned on both sides in the comic. Martin Manhunter is DLC in Injustice, but that didn't stop him from being killed in the comic.

Also don't see how an officially licensed comic book is "fan fiction," especially when NRS is calling it canon.
 
Harpoon said:
Somehow, I don't think NRS really thought it that big an issue that Kittelsen don't stay in line with the DLC character who never shows up in story mode and his bio, ending, etc. are all kind of dubious canon to begin with. Never mind that the Shokan could still end up being outcast, especially with how they have turned on both sides in the comic. Martin Manhunter is DLC in Injustice, but that didn't stop him from being killed in the comic.

Also don't see how an officially licensed comic book is "fan fiction," especially when NRS is calling it canon.
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Goro is not the only plot hole. Just very glaring one.
 
Ooooooh ok I see now. When Raiden said "as the new rulers of the Neatherrealm" I thought he meant Liu, kitana and himself. He just means Liu and kitana are the new rulers and he's basically going on a "don't F with Earth" campaign to all realms. Alright I like this ending a little better now
 
Taj Gill said:
So I guess we can squash the whole theory of the new timeline taking place in an "alternate universe" due to the fact that Mythologies still exists. Raiden just went back to a specific point in time in the same universe and changed a specific outcome, which were the events of MK9.
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No.
Ed Boon specifically said that MK9 was the new timeline in 2 separate interviews.
In the 1 with TRMK he said that this was an alternate timeline, and in the 1 with the Kombat Tether he said that the timeline skewed.

He even said that it does a "Back To The Future" type of thing....

Much like Back To The Future II, which has an alternate 1985 future due to being altered in 1955, the timeline also skews in MK9.
The difference is that in MK9, the timeline skews at the moment of the MK1 tournament, and not before that.
In Back To The Future, everything prior to that specific point in time in 1955 remains the same.
The same goes for Goro defeating the Great Kung Lao and the events of Mythologies, which took place before MK1.
None of that is altered.
It is only altered from the moment that the amulet cracked.
Does that make sense?

If not, Doc Brown can better explain the time paradox that happened in MK9 (1:00 mark)........






Phlfwd22 said:
Ooooooh ok I see now. When Raiden said "as the new rulers of the Neatherrealm" I thought he meant Liu, kitana and himself. He just means Liu and kitana are the new rulers and he's basically going on a "don't F with Earth" campaign to all realms. Alright I like this ending a little better now
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Yes.
That's what it seems like.
Dark Raiden was basically saying "F*** with EarthRealm, and I'll do more than just kill you."
 
Yaniv Shmuel Avizrats said:
I guess I take more seriously the product plot details than the semi canonized filled with plot holes "official until it is not" story. To each his own.
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And I take more seriously the story that does mostly fit in place and has been officially said to be canon than the DLC content that could be as canon as Liu Kang, Kung Lao, and Kitana's primaries. To each his own indeed!
 
Taj Gill said:
So I guess we can squash the whole theory of the new timeline taking place in an "alternate universe" due to the fact that Mythologies still exists. Raiden just went back to a specific point in time in the same universe and changed a specific outcome, which were the events of MK9.

And for the love of God, please do not come back at me with responses like, "well wait, Cyrax and Sektor were in the first MK Tournament, but they weren't in MK1." Just use common sense and realize it's because they simply weren't invented at that time, there is no story or canon explanation for their appearances.

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What does Mythologies have to do with anything? In the alternate timeline, Mythologies would have still happened. It was a prequel game and took place before MK1. MK9 started right at the MK1 tournament
 
Harpoon said:
Somehow, I don't think NRS really thought it that big an issue that Kittelsen don't stay in line with the DLC character who never shows up in story mode and his bio, ending, etc. are all kind of dubious canon to begin with. Never mind that the Shokan could still end up being outcast, especially with how they have turned on both sides in the comic. Martin Manhunter is DLC in Injustice, but that didn't stop him from being killed in the comic.

Also don't see how an officially licensed comic book is "fan fiction," especially when NRS is calling it canon.
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The comic is as canon as MKSM.

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natedoggcata said:
What does Mythologies have to do with anything? In the alternate timeline, Mythologies would have still happened. It was a prequel game and took place before MK1. MK9 started right at the MK1 tournament
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Yup.
Exactly.

For example:

IF someone only went back in time to stop / kill Hitler in 1938 prior to World War II starting, the Third Reich still would have happened prior to that point in time.
The theory being that going to 1 point in time doesn't erase events that happened prior to that 1 specific event being changed.
 
Commander said:
No.
Ed Boon specifically said that MK9 was the new timeline in 2 separate interviews.
In the 1 with TRMK he said that this was an alternate timeline, and in the 1 with the Kombat Tether he said that the timeline skewed.

He even said that it does a "Back To The Future" type of thing....

Much like Back To The Future II, which has an alternate 1985 future due to being altered in 1955, the timeline also skews in MK9.
The difference is that in MK9, the timeline skews at the moment of the MK1 tournament, and not before that.
In Back To The Future, everything prior to that specific point in time in 1955 remains the same.
The same goes for Goro defeating the Great Kung Lao and the events of Mythologies, which took place before MK1.
None of that is altered.
It is only altered from the moment that the amulet cracked.
Does that make sense?

If not, Doc Brown can better explain the time paradox that happened in MK9 (1:00 mark)........








Yes.
That's what it seems like.
Dark Raiden was basically saying "F*** with EarthRealm, and I'll do more than just kill you."
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Exhibit A: Raiden mentioned that Bi-Han once defended Earthrealm from Quan Chi and Shinnok after the latter's death.

Exhibit B: Sareena clearly mentioned that Bi-Han aided her.

Exhibit C: Quan Chi still singlehandedly destroyed the original Shirai Ryu, along with Scorpion's wife and child.

That's 3 Mythologies events that happened in the current timeline, which means Mythologies is still canon.

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Tarkatan Trash said:
That's 3 Mythologies events that happened in the current timeline, which means Mythologies is still canon.
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What's your point?
I'm not arguing that it wasn't.

I'm saying that the timeline events skewed at the time of MK1, which they did, thus giving us this alternate MK1 thru UMK3, and this completely new story after the skewed timeline involving the power struggle between Mileena and Kotal Kahn as Emperor Of Outworld, which never happened in the original timeline.
 
Commander said:
What's your point?
I'm not arguing that it wasn't.

I'm saying that the timeline events skewed at the time of MK1, which they did, thus giving us this alternate MK1 thru UMK3, and this completely new story after the skewed timeline involving the power struggle between Mileena and Kotal Kahn as Emperor Of Outworld, which never happened in the original timeline.
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You have argued in the past that Mythologies was retconned by the new timeline, even using something as simple as the changing of the language in how Kuai Liang and Bi-Han ended up in the Lin Kuei as proof that it was retconned.

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Tarkatan Trash said:
You have argued in the past that Mythologies was retconned by the new timeline, even using something as simple as the changing of the language in how Kuai Liang and Bi-Han ended up in the Lin Kuei as proof that it was retconned.
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Yes, but I'm not arguing that now, so again, what's your point of even replying the way that you did?

Much like the old timeline, this debate / trolling attempt that you are trying to strike up is pointless.
 
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