SPOILER ALERT:Mortal Kombat X DIGITAL COMIC DISCUSSION

[chackalacka]

And besides this "royal persone" what does he have to built upon?
Shinnok was a very generic character in MK4 for example, but at least he had cool fatalities, which became his specials in MKA, and he can be expanded even more (Mythologies moves + MK4 videos), he had some base to built on.
Daegon have very generic moveset and standard fireball as his projectile, i can't see anything that can be expanded in his moveset.

To Mk9 Sheeva vs MK3 Sheeva - i find MK9 version better, at leats she had more specials, more combos and better fatalities. In MK3 she had 2 specials and 2 combos, she was a poor cheap shokan, who looked awful compared to Goro or Kintaro.

Well if they can make Kano look good in MKX, I am sure they can do something great with Daegon. His moveset does not have to be copy and pasted from Armageddon since the producers got a bit lazy in that department with those 2 characters. If he is not in the game, I wont really care too much, but if he is, then I think it may be interesting.

 

[Commander]

Historical source please. As far as I know the Aztecs civilization collapsed during the 17th century when they encountered Cortez a spanish conquistador. Night wolf is from the "Red-wolf tribe" not apache. Who knows, Maybe Nightwolf IS Kotal Kahn

Here's 1 of the more credible sources:

Although the Spanish administration had negotiated with both the Apaches and Comanches in an effort to bring peace to the frontier era, the establishment of the Mexican Republic in 1822 led to a renewal of the Comanche and Apache wars. Between 1836 and 1852, the Chiricahua Apaches fought a running battle against both American and Mexican federal forces. The Apaches continued to defy both Mexico and the United States for many years until 1886, when Geronimo, the famous Chiricahua leader, surrendered in the Sierra Madres to American forces that had crossed the border for the special purpose of capturing Geronimo.

http://www.houstonculture.org/mexico/chihuahua.html

As for Nightwolf's "Red Wolf" trible: source please?
None of the MK Bio cards or any of Nightwolf's history says that he belongs specifically to that tribe.

I never said that Nightwolf was Kotal Kahn, I'm just wondering if those 2 were enemies, given the wars between the Apaches and Aztecs from 1836 to 1852.

 

[VonKrupt]

It takes a lot of stretching to link Aztecs to 19th century Mexico. The Aztec Empire (Triple Alliance) proper was pretty much dead by 1521 after Cortez destroyed Tenochtitlan.
There is a vague ethnic heritage left related to some central Mexico regions, but calling Mexico "Aztec" by the time of the Apache-Mexico wars is worse than saying the Soviet Union defeated the Holy Roman Empire when they defeated Germany by 1945.

Besides the Aztec Empire never reached into the regions where Apache fought Mexicans. This is where the Aztecs were.

There is no historical rivalry or link between Aztecs and Apache.

 

[FlawlessVictor]

After the fall of the Aztec Empire, it was Spanish that were running what is now Mexico. Pure-blooded Amerindians are a minority in Mexico, and among the lowest of the low socioeconomically.

 

[HehatemeALot]

edit : Wrong thread

 

[RedZoneD25]

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Seeing the leak for Kung Jin just made me even more pissed off that Kung Lao has a main roster spot.

I would have preferred Jin on main roster to promote NEW characters, while tying him to Kung Lao with the latter having a cameo in Story Mode or Jin reflecting on Lao's death. Makes so much more sense from a progression POV, IMO.

 

[Commander]

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Seeing the leak for Kung Jin just made me even more pissed off that Kung Lao has a main roster spot.

I would have preferred Jin on main roster to promote NEW characters, while tying him to Kung Lao with the latter having a cameo in Story Mode or Jin reflecting on Lao's death. Makes so much more sense from a progression POV, IMO.

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How do you know that none of that happened and Jin didn't assume Kung Lao's identity for MKX?
MKX Kung Lao could easily be Jin, given that it doesn't look like MK9 Kung Lao.

 

[HehatemeALot]

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How do you know that none of that happened and Jin didn't assume Kung Lao's identity for MKX?
MKX Kung Lao could easily be Jin, given that it doesn't look like MK9 Kung Lao.

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I was thinking the same and then I noticed that they were looking for an actor for in their mid 20s.

 

[RedZoneD25]

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How do you know that none of that happened and Jin didn't assume Kung Lao's identity for MKX?
MKX Kung Lao could easily be Jin, given that it doesn't look like MK9 Kung Lao.

Spoiler:

I don't know. It could be. I'll be going off the assumption that it's him until I'm told otherwise.

Personally, on an admittedly very shallow level of thought, I'd be more apt to try a character named Kung Jin out of curiosity than try to explain to anyone who asked "no, it's not actually Kung Lao, I mean I know that's his name and he's wearing the same gear, but...you know what, fine, it's Kung Lao. It's easier that way." (Yes, I know Kung Lao from MK2-MK9 isn't the first Kung Lao, but he was the first playable Kung Lao)

I don't care if Liu Kang's grandnephew-in-law comes back in his gear, just don't call him Liu Kang.

I can handle using Kahn and Sub-Zero as a title more than a name, but overdoing it just crowds the water, IMO.

 

[Commander]

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I was thinking the same and then I noticed that they were looking for an actor for in their mid 20s.

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How do we know that Jin isn't older than Takeda during this time in the comics?
If Jin is in his 20's in the comics as Kung Lao was during MK9 (maybe a year or 2 younger), then at the end of the 25 years he would be in his mid-to-late 40s / early 50's.
It never said that Jin was 20 when Takeda was 8, it just implies that the Jin of current day (near Kung Lao's death at the end of MK9) is in his 20's.
Plus MKX is said to jump around in the 25 year span, so we could be looking at a Jin and Takeda from 2 different times.
We could be seeing Takeda near the 15 year mark, which would put him at 23, when he joins Johnny's Special Forces unit.

Spoiler:

I don't know. It could be. I'll be going off the assumption that it's him until I'm told otherwise.

Personally, on an admittedly very shallow level of thought, I'd be more apt to try a character named Kung Jin out of curiosity than try to explain to anyone who asked "no, it's not actually Kung Lao, I mean I know that's his name and he's wearing the same gear, but...you know what, fine, it's Kung Lao. It's easier that way." (Yes, I know Kung Lao from MK2-MK9 isn't the first Kung Lao, but he was the first playable Kung Lao)

I don't care if Liu Kang's grandnephew-in-law comes back in his gear, just don't call him Liu Kang.

I can handle using Kahn and Sub-Zero as a title more than a name, but overdoing it just crowds the water, IMO.

Spoiler:

I see what you mean, but we're just going off of what the magazine printed, as [MENTION=4805]Viking_Poodle[/MENTION] said.
For all we know, maybe it was a misprint and his name in the health bar will be Kung Jin.

 

[Tarkatan Trash]

Spoiler:

How do you know that none of that happened and Jin didn't assume Kung Lao's identity for MKX?
MKX Kung Lao could easily be Jin, given that it doesn't look like MK9 Kung Lao.

Spoiler:

Then the text on the lifebar would be reading Kung Jin instead of Kung Lao.

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[HehatemeALot]

Spoiler:

How do we know that Jin isn't older than Takeda during this time in the comics?
If Jin is in his 20's in the comics as Kung Lao was during MK9 (maybe a year or 2 younger), then at the end of the 25 years he would be in his mid-to-late 40s / early 50's.
It never said that Jin was 20 when Takeda was 8, it just implies that the Jin of current day (near Kung Lao's death at the end of MK9) is in his 20's.
Plus MKX is said to jump around in the 25 year span, so we could be looking at a Jin and Takeda from 2 different times.
We could be seeing Takeda near the 15 year mark, which would put him at 23, when he joins Johnny's Special Forces unit.

Spoiler:

Well I'm not going off the comics because we don't know how old Takeda and Jin hasn't been confirmed for the comic yet. I'm only going off the info given in the casting call for the rumored live action digital series. Which have both Takeda and Jin in their mid 20s on Johnny's squad.

 

[Commander]

Spoiler:

Then the text on the lifebar would be reading Kung Jin instead of Kung Lao.

Spoiler:

I didn't see the name on the life bar.
Either way, and he could have taken up the mantle in honor of his cousin.
It wouldn't be the first time in MK that a family member takes up the mantle of a fallen loved one, in their memory.

 

[Tarkatan Trash]

Spoiler:

Wasn't Shang Tsung originally named Shang Lao?

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[Viking_Poodle]

Spoiler:

I see what you mean, but we're just going off of what the magazine printed, as [MENTION=4805]Viking_Poodle[/MENTION] said.
For all we know, maybe it was a misprint and his name in the health bar will be Kung Jin.

Spoiler:

I wasn't necessarily saying that it was a mis-print. More along the lines of -- They were told he was Kung Lao isntead of Kung Jin to incite speculation.

 

[Tarkatan Trash]

Spoiler:

MK Kharacter + Bladed Hat = Kung Lao. If it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, smells like a dick, and quacks like a duck, you don't call it a mongoose.

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[Commander]

Spoiler:

I wasn't necessarily saying that it was a mis-print. More along the lines of -- They were told he was Kung Lao isntead of Kung Jin to incite speculation.

Spoiler:

Ah, Ok. Gotcha.
Agreed.
I can't give "Thanks" right now. :top:

Spoiler:

Then the text on the lifebar would be reading Kung Jin instead of Kung Lao.

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None of the lifebars were shown in "Kung Lao's" magazine reveal, so I don't know where you're getting this from.
Source?

 

[kadell]

Do we even know what this Kung Lao's moveset is as far as special techniques?

Also, does anyone else feel like MKX seems to be building up more like a story about ...

Spoiler:

...faction wars for the Kamidogu rather than the usual save the realms story? Especially since all of the characters so far are part of some fact?

 

[Rolling_Toaster]

Spoiler:

MK Kharacter + Bladed Hat = Kung Lao. If it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, smells like a dick, and quacks like a duck, you don't call it a mongoose.

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He also wears a similar outfit to his MK9 primary outfit but Araknyd will just say that means nothing and it's Kung Jin.

 

[Tarkatan Trash]

Do we even know what this Kung Lao's moveset is as far as special techniques?

Also, does anyone else feel like MKX seems to be building up more like a story about ...

Spoiler:

...faction wars for the Kamidogu rather than the usual save the realms story? Especially since all of the characters so far are part of some fact?

Spoiler:

The usual movelist; Hat Throw, Teleport, Spin, Dive Kick. I'm willing to bet at least 2 are universal.

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