SPOILER ALERT:Mortal Kombat X DIGITAL COMIC DISCUSSION

Eh, I thought the story mode was pretty internally consistent.

In any event, complaining about Kano using a nuclear gun is silly. Why did Kano use a nuclear gun? Because it was cool.

Why wasn't that technology employed to destroy Shao Kahn? Because then there'd be no story.

Just breathe. It's Mortal Kombat, not GODS AND GENERALS.
 
"Why wasn't that technology employed to destroy Shao Kahn? Because then there'd be no story. "

And that's exactly what I've meant by shoddy writing.
 
"Why wasn't that technology employed to destroy Shao Kahn? Because then there'd be no story. "

And that's exactly what I've meant by shoddy writing.

Ah yes, because it definately wouldn't be shoddy writing if they made the story "Shao Kahn invades Earthrealm, but then they nuked him. The End!". :marchmellow:
 
"Why wasn't that technology employed to destroy Shao Kahn? Because then there'd be no story. "

And that's exactly what I've meant by shoddy writing.

It's not shoddy so much as stylized. At the end of the day, as much as the plot has veered off-course (to its benefit, imo), this is a kung fu story about a martial arts fighting tournament. Nobody gets to save the day with nukes. Kano can kill mooks with one because it's hilarious.
 
Lol I thought fans of this series would know by now that logic and story don't really mesh. Otherwise there would be no damned story.

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1. If some of you guys get so upset everytime you read the comic, then DON'T READ IT!!!!
2. How come you are questioning some guy with a cyber eye using a bomb like device, with the statement that "Is not realistic" C'mon, it's a guy WITH a CYBER EYE!!!!
3. No doubt many of you go online just to troll around with people whose really interested in the topic, and that's lame. You even call "Tarkatans" "Tarkans" LOL
4. You can't expect things to be that realistic in a universe with realms, races, magic, sorcerers, people coming back from dead... So, suck it up and love things for what they are and be nice, if not, walk away.

That's my humble opinion ;)
 
Why doesn't Raiden just teleport Shao Kahn to Pluto and leave him there?

Because Shao Kahn will kick his teeth out before he can touch him.
Bit different than getting nuked.

4. You can't expect things to be that realistic in a universe with realms, races, magic, sorcerers, people coming back from dead... So, suck it up and love things for what they are and be nice, if not, walk away.

This is what forums are for. You cannot simply tell someone to "suck it up and love it because I said so!!!". This is a classic deus ex machina, and yes I know it's a comic. Why can't I point it out? "hurr durr too many shokans and onis, no way kotal is going to win, let me introduce kano over here with a portable nuke and cripple them severely in 1 panel. why didnt they use them before? why are they all alive? and many other questions someone might ask? screw it! gotta wrap this up somehow!"

Apologies if I don't blow smoke up someone's arse just because. Let me guess: "DONT LIKE IT DONT READ IT!!!!11" is coming up next.

Ah yes, because it definately wouldn't be shoddy writing if they made the story "Shao Kahn invades Earthrealm, but then they nuked him. The End!". :marchmellow:

Better idea: how about something different than "a wild Kano has appeared and nuked half an army (but not himself or the survivors) in 1 panel"? It feels so random. And naturally I start asking questions like "well why the hell wasn't it done before???"

C'mon I've been looking forward to this battle, but not like this.
 
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Because Shao Kahn will kick his teeth out before he can touch him.
Bit different than getting nuked.

Raiden grabs Shao Kahn's foot and teleports to Pluto. Whoopsie!

And what other situations were there for Kano to use this in? MK doesn't feature many huge battles like this, and we don't know how long he's had this for or if he still has any when the game's plot happens.
 
Raiden grabs Shao Kahn's foot and teleports to Pluto. Whoopsie!

And what other situations were there for Kano to use this in? MK doesn't feature many huge battles like this, and we don't know how long he's had this for or if he still has any when the game's plot happens.

Meh. One does not simply grab Shao Kahn's foot.

But regarding Kano...Sure...Why did he even bother going into a hand to hand battle with Kotal in that chariot? There were a bunch of fighters, soldiers and the Emperor himself...it was big enough. Why didn't he just...nuke it...He also got paid a large some of $$$/gold/whatever, so there was no excuse...

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Meh. One does not simply grab Shao Kahn's foot.

But regarding Kano...Sure...Why did he even bother going into a hand to hand battle with Kotal in that chariot? There were a bunch of fighters, soldiers and the Emperor himself...it was big enough. Why didn't he just...nuke it...He also got paid a large some of $$$/gold/whatever, so there was no excuse...

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Okay, Raiden teleports out of the way and behind Shao Kahn, then takes a trip to Pluto. Not that hard.

Because Mileena hired him to assassinate Kotal, not fire off a nuke in the middle of her city and also probably wipe out her forces in the process. And this isn't a vast, mostly empty battlefield--this is a bustling city full of buildings. Kano would have to actually be close to Kotal's forces to fire any nuke specifically at them, and he's never going to be paid enough to kill himself.
 
Okay, Raiden teleports out of the way and behind Shao Kahn, then takes a trip to Pluto. Not that hard.

Because Mileena hired him to assassinate Kotal, not fire off a nuke in the middle of her city and also probably wipe out her forces in the process. And this isn't a vast, mostly empty battlefield--this is a bustling city full of buildings. Kano would have to actually be close to Kotal's forces to fire any nuke specifically at them, and he's never going to be paid enough to kill himself.

Roundhouse kick. When did Raidude even defeat Shao Kahn before? He got his ass kicked in MK9 & the trailer. Even in MK Annihilation he got destroyed.

Look at the distance he was standing at against Kintaros army. Just look. It was YELLING distance. So I still don't understand why you keep bringing up "he would kill himself" when he didn't. I've already noted this before, and how silly it looked. Once again, MKX "atoms".

And you give Mileena way too much credit, for someone as desperate as her. Kano comes in and says "look I can get rid of Kotal in a blink of an eye, your biggest enemy, there might be some collateral damage if done inside a city". Do you honestly believe she would say "heck no go fight a pseudogod in a 1v1 hand to hand combat!"??

Kano himself doesn't seem the most sentimental guy as well.

I dunno man. Seems like the ultimate means to an end.
 
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Roundhouse kick. When did Raidude even defeat Shao Kahn before? He got his ass kicked in MK9 & the trailer. Even in MK Annihilation he got destroyed.

Look at the distance he was standing at against Kintaros army. Just look. It was YELLING distance. So I still don't understand why you keep bringing up "he would kill himself" when he didn't. I've already noted this before, and how silly it looked. Once again, MKX "atoms".

And you give Mileena way too much credit, for someone as desperate as her. Kano comes in and says "look I can get rid of Kotal in a blink of an eye, your biggest enemy, there might be some collateral damage if done inside a city". Do you honestly believe she would say "heck no go fight a pseudogod in a 1v1 hand to hand combat!"??

I dunno man. Seems like the ultimate means to an end.

He still dodges it and teleports Shao Kahn right after. Good god, I'm not saying Raiden has to defeat him, I'm just posing a hypothetical situation where literally all he has to do is touch him. It's funny how you think Raiden just touching Shao Kahn is something that could never happen, yet Kano and other characters can pull out these nuclear cannons and take them into every battle.

And okay, Kano is now going to assassinate Kotal Kahn with a nuke. He immediately demands his payment be doubled, because there's no way that tech is cheap even if you think the U.S. military could just hand out one to every soldier. What happens when Mileena doesn't have the money? She believed she already had a secret weapon in Shinnok's amulet too, so she probably wouldn't feel all that excited about coughing up the money for some untrustworthy Earthrealm weapon. In fact, Rain would probably advise against it as well per his own plans, and his own not wanting to possibly get hit by a nuke; after all, their actual plan in the game went awry because Kotal was early, who's to say something similar wouldn't happen? Kano wasn't even supposed to 1v1 Kotal, it was supposed to be a quick and dirty assassination. You might as well ask why Kano didn't just bring along a bunch of Black Dragons to help him kill Kotal, they're just as much a resource as the nuke blaster. Tremor could have totally knocked all of Kotal's forces over, making it easier for Mileena's to slaughter them, right?

Also, how's Kano's supposed to carry this huge-ass cannon into the city without immediately being put into custody by the guards? And if he tried firing from outside the city, there's no guarantee he'd be able to hit Kotal at all given how small the explosion in this chapter was when it only wiped out half of Kintaro's army; you yourself just said he fired it from yelling distance and it didn't even kill all of them, so it's clearly not as powerful as an actual nuclear bomb. So if Kano fired and missed, and that was it (given how it definitely seems these cannons can only fire one shot), he'd still be in a lot of trouble.

I think you're seriously too worked up about this, and you might as well ask why Kano didn't get an actual nuclear bomb and use that to kill Kotal.
 
He still dodges it and teleports Shao Kahn right after. Good god, I'm not saying Raiden has to defeat him, I'm just posing a hypothetical situation where literally all he has to do is touch him.

Nah, at this point you're repeating some nonsense over and over again. That's like saying "Raiden could get rid of Shao Kahn on a whim any day he'd like by just touching him". Well no, every time we've seen Raiden going against Shao Kahn, he got his ass kicked. Especially in the most desperate, crucial moments. Point is moot.

there's no way that tech is cheap even if you think the U.S. military could just hand out one to every soldier.

Going out on a limb now, aren't you?

Also, how's Kano's supposed to carry this huge-ass cannon into the city without immediately being put into custody by the guards?

Well he apparently had no problems carrying it to Outworld now, so your question is moot. And huge-ass? Are you trying to be funny here?

Kano wasn't even supposed to 1v1 Kotal, it was supposed to be a quick and dirty assassination.

Gee...that's what assassinations are...1v1...Still doesn't change the point that someone as dirty as Kano, mixed with someone as desperate as Mileena, mixed with a silly weapon like a portable nuke blaster would end all this charade in an instant.

I think you're seriously too worked up about this, and you might as well ask why Kano didn't get an actual nuclear bomb and use that to kill Kotal.

Nah. I've just pointed out how silly, cheap and contrived that moment is. If Kano can just appear outta nowhere and nuke someone in 1 panel, that makes almost everything pointless. I'm not the one coming out saying "WELL WHAT IF RAIDEN TOUCH SHAO KAHN?! HE DODGE KICKS AND TOUCH!".
 
Nah, at this point you're repeating some nonsense over and over again. That's like saying "Raiden could get rid of Shao Kahn on a whim any day he'd like by just touching him". Well no, every time we've seen Raiden going against Shao Kahn, he got his ass kicked. Especially in the most desperate, crucial moments. Point is moot.

Harpoon's point is that Raiden losing to Shao Kahn doesn't make any sense because we know that he has powers that would allow him to bypass the fight entirely. All Raiden had to do was strand Shao Kahn in space at basically any point in the thousands of years he spent as Earthrealm's protector. Shao Kahn can't have been 100% on guard 100% of hundreds of years. Raiden could have got him.

Instead, we get a story about Raiden trying to punch Shao Kahn to death. mmmmk.

It is dumb and nonsensical, but we roll with it because reasons.

Kano having a nuke is dumb and nonsensical, too. Commence rolling with it.

They're both examples of lazy writing, equally deserving of our contempt. No one here is holding Kano's nuke-blaster up as a paragon of brilliant story development. But singling it out as though MK has been a perfectly sensible universe up until Kittelsen ruined everything with issue #20 is just silly.
 
Harpoon's point is that Raiden losing to Shao Kahn doesn't make any sense because we know that he has powers that would allow him to bypass the fight entirely. All Raiden had to do was strand Shao Kahn in space at basically any point in the thousands of years he spent as Earthrealm's protector. Shao Kahn can't have been 100% on guard 100% of hundreds of years. Raiden could have got him.

What do you mean it doesn't make any sense? Shao Kahn is not some mere crooked mortal with a nuke. Almost every time we've seen Raiden go against Shao, he got wrecked. So I don't understand how this "touchy touchy teleport" ability comes into play, since we've never seen him do it against ANY of the opponents, especially someone of Shao's caliber. I don't get it.

I didn't say everything was perfect until Kano's nuke. I said it was a silly plot device to end what seemed to be a classic deus ex machina, aka, "write myself into such a position that the only way to solve it would be through some silly event happening".

I wanted to know how Kotal would deal with such an army, since the odds were stacked against him by such a huge margin. But....wild Kano appears...and boom goes, what, half of that army in 1 panel?...

Of course, with an introduction of such weaponry...I started asking questions. I mean the only time I remember a nuke being mentioned was in Kano's MK1 ending. A game over screen. Never before have we seen humans using nukes, otherwise, like mentioned before...What is the point of this entire tournament/earth under constant threat thing in the first place?
 
What do you mean it doesn't make any sense? Shao Kahn is not some mere crooked mortal with a nuke. Almost every time we've seen Raiden go against Shao, he got wrecked. So I don't understand how this "touchy touchy teleport" ability comes into play, since we've never seen him do it against ANY of the opponents, especially someone of Shao's caliber. I don't get it.

I'm assuming that Raiden should be capable of teleporting his enemies and chooses not to because then there would be no story.

You obviously disagree with this assumption, even though to me it seems perfectly logical (that is, using real world logic).

Your original assertion in this thread was that nukes make the threat of Shao Kahn seem paltry, as he could just be blasted with one (or a couple) and the invasion would end.

"Shao Kahn is affected by nukes" is an assumption that also uses real world logic. If you can disagree with mine, I can disagree with yours.

I didn't say everything was perfect until Kano's nuke. I said it was a silly plot device to end what seemed to be a classic deus ex machina, aka, "write myself into such a position that the only way to solve it would be through some silly event happening".

It is. The Civil War story has been one anti-climax after another. Johnny Cage runs in screaming "we're all going to die," and the next issue is Kotal Kahn beating people up for a few hours ezpz lemonsqz, until he beats them up so hard that they order a retreat out of the city. Now the Black Dragon magically show up out of nowhere, and they have a god damn nuke that magically has no radiation that would make Kano think twice about using it on someone he can see.

Again, I don't think anyone will really disagree with you here. Kittelsen built up the stakes and is now struggling to resolve them. My first thought was that he simply doesn't have enough issues left to tell the story the way he would ideally like to (so - poor planning), but the fact that we spent literally an entire issue following Sonya around and watching mooks die makes me wonder.
 
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