Soccer Johnny, Capoeira Kang & Gaucho Lao

Racial classifications are based on the culture we live in. Mexicans, Salvadorians, Guatemalans, etc. living in the United States call themselves Hispanics as much as people of other backgrounds do. In the US when people think of Asians, they usually think of Chinese. In the UK, Asians usually refer to Indians, as they have bigger presence over there. We can split hairs about race all day, but I don't think it's worth in the long run.
 
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Re: Soccer Johnny, Capoerua Kang & Guacho Lao

Rezound said:
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That actually is a very good program. Used it to buy all the DLC in MK9 when it first came out.

Thanks for reminding me.
I haven't been on in months, maybe years.
 
Re: Soccer Johnny, Capoeira Kang & Gaucho Lao

I just wanted to touch on something that [MENTION=18676]Rezound[/MENTION] mentioned. It's cool if you wanna call Gaucho Lao whatever you want, but do it at the risk of insulting community members who identify themselves with Gauchos. So for example, the Brazilian Community since Gauchos are Brazilian and/or Argentinian by origin. If they're cool with you calling him whatever you like, then by all means go ahead. But you should respectfully stop if they feel the identity is being undermined.

I know for sure that if there were a turban and beard skin for a character and NRS named it "Sikh Warrior", but then people started going around calling it "Arab Warrior" or "Muslim Warrior", I'd be pretty offended because that's people being blatantly ignorant towards my heritage.

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Cryo said:
I lol everytime people say or think that "latino" or "hispanic" are a race, it's just an origin, I'm all of that and white at the same time, I'm hispanic because I speak spanish, I'm latino because I was born in Latin America, but I'm white because I just am.

Also, by american weird standards I'm also "italian" just because I have an italian surname, my great grandparents were sicilian.

I guess they have weird definitions in the US, or in any other place for that matter, I'm not going to put all the blame on the fellow northamericans.

Mariachis and gauchos? Apples and oranges...
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In Europe, we do not use the word "latino" AT ALL to classify *cof* *cof* "races". Any word related to "Latin" is almost always used to refer to countries such as France, Spain, Italy, Portugal, Romania and Moldova, since they all speak a Latin language.

Brazilians aren't Hispanic, they are Lusophone or Galaicophone (depending on your own position about the origin of Portuguese language). French people are Francophones. Hispanic are those who natively speak "Spanish" (an umbrella term), in Spain, most of the country actually speaks Castillian. For example, Galiza speaks Galician which is a sister language to Portuguese and yet Galiza is part of Spain and it is VERY offensive to call Galicians "Hispanic" because of cultural autonomy reasons. The word Hispanic in itself is not incorrect or offensive, it's the way people use it for racial classification.

I had no idea that people in the Americas actually used "latino" as a way to classify races or ethnicities, not until I met the wonderful world of the Internet. And don't have me talking about WHO'S WHITE OR NOT debate loool which is so ridiculous I can't believe people atually care for that at all. I have a very fair pale skin colour, ginger beard, dark hazel eyes but my hair is raven black. Who am I? LOOOL
 
Jeez guys don't get so butthurt, these are just freaking costumes, you don't have to use them at all. They are as much canon as Jason vorhees
 
Marcelino Rodrigues said:
Hispanic are those who natively speak "Spanish" (an umbrella term), in Spain, most of the country actually speaks Castillian. For example, Galiza speaks Galician which is a sister language to Portuguese and yet Galiza is part of Spain and it is VERY offensive to call Galicians "Hispanic" because of cultural autonomy reasons. The word Hispanic in itself is not incorrect or offensive, it's the way people use it for racial classification.
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You're really splitting hairs here, though, as Castillian is actually a Spanish dialect, just the same way that Argentenians speak a different Spanish dialect, as do Colombians, Peruvians, Guatemalans, Mexicans, Puerto Ricans, Cubans and other Spanish speaking countries, but at the end of the day they all speak the same Spanish language.
It's the same way that people from England have their own way of referring to certain things (dialect) and North Americans have their own way of referring to certain things (dialect) but at the end of the day they both speak the same English language.

Galician is derived from Spanish in the same way that Creole is derived from French, and in Galicia they speak BOTH Galician AND Spanish.
So, it really wouldn't be offensive to associate a Galician with the term "Hispanic" as that part of the country (northwestern Spain) speaks BOTH Spanish and Galician (a Spanish derived sister language).
 
Commander said:
Galician is derived from Spanish in the same way that Creole is derived from French, and in Galicia they speak BOTH Galician AND Spanish.
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No, Galician is a far older language than Castilian (Spanish), and it's actually got more in common with Portuguese, which derives from old Galician.

I won't argue with the rest, though. That bit just caught my eye. Sorry. :p

(Amateur linguist here)
 
mandead said:
No, Galician is a far older language than Castilian (Spanish), and it's actually got more in common with Portuguese, which derives from old Galician.

I won't argue with the rest, though. That bit just caught my eye. Sorry. :p

(Amateur linguist here)
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I'll give you that, but regardless, associating Galicians as "Hispanic" isn't really "offensive" or too far off from the truth as both languages are spoken in that northwestern region and those people are considered to be "Spanish," from Spain.
Spain is considered "Hispanic" given that they speak "Spanish" in Spain, as well as in Galicia.
 
Commander said:
I'll give you that, but regardless, associating Galicians as "Hispanic" isn't really "offensive" or too far off from the truth as both languages are spoken in that northwestern region and those people are considered to be "Spanish," from Spain.
Spain is considered "Hispanic" given that they speak "Spanish" in Spain, as well as in Galicia.
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Oh, absolutely, I wasn't arguing with that aspect, sorry. :)

I just wanted to point out that Galician was not the best example (when comparing with French > Creole) because Galician pre-dates Castilian - the original 'Spanish' language - whilst Creole (and other hybrid languages in that region) developed out of French and Spanish.

Sorry, I wasn't trying to be a dick or anything, I just happen to know a bit about Galician in terms of it having a very strong regional identity and (traditionally) some anti-Spanish feeling.

*leaves*
 
Jin Kazama said:
This thread went the same way as the boobs in mkx thread ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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Nothing wrong with that, people are allowed to have respectful, intellectual conversations as long as it doesn't get out of hand.

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Commander said:
You're really splitting hairs here, though, as Castillian is actually a Spanish dialect, just the same way that Argentenians speak a different Spanish dialect, as do Colombians, Peruvians, Guatemalans, Mexicans, Puerto Ricans, Cubans and other Spanish speaking countries, but at the end of the day they all speak the same Spanish language.
It's the same way that people from England have their own way of referring to certain things (dialect) and North Americans have their own way of referring to certain things (dialect) but at the end of the day they both speak the same English language.

Galician is derived from Spanish in the same way that Creole is derived from French, and in Galicia they speak BOTH Galician AND Spanish.
So, it really wouldn't be offensive to associate a Galician with the term "Hispanic" as that part of the country (northwestern Spain) speaks BOTH Spanish and Galician (a Spanish derived sister language).
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Uh? Commander, seriously... Sorry, I respect you a lot, but I have to correct you here. Being a linguistic teacher myself, I am not "splitting hairs" about this.

There are A LOT of misconceptions in what you wrote, especially considering I don't think you actually live here to opinate. Castillian is one of the OFFICIAL languages of Spain, if anything, its most influential one. What you call "Spanish" is actually an umbrella term that englobes the linguistic family of Hispanic countries which is NOT the case of Galician, which derives from the medieval Galician-Portuguese language. Portuguese and Galician are almost literally the same language. I have no idea where you got that idea that it derived from "Spanish".

Galicians speak both Galician and Castillian, depending on the region yes.

Calling a Galician "Hispanic" can be offensive considering Galiza is an autonomy within the Spanish territory and their NATIVE language is not an Hispanic one, they're considered Galaicophones or even Lusophones. This is a fact, there's not even a debate here. Now you can argue yes that there's no reason to be offended by that, but you cannot dictate what people should or shouldn't accept or not feel offended by, right? I for one would feel EXTREMELY offended if someone called me Hispanic for sure.
 
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The subject of language comes up and all of the sudden everybody in this 1 thread is a linguist? :laugh:
M'kay?
You are splitting hairs, though.
The Spanish language term castellano (Castilian) may refer to the Spanish language as a whole, to the dialects spoken in central and northern Spain, OR to the medieval language which was a predecessor to modern Spanish.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castilian_Spanish

I've been to Spain and what they speak is Castilian Spanish, which is their dialect.
 
Commander said:
The subject of language comes up and all of the sudden everybody in this 1 thread is a linguist? :laugh:
M'kay?
You are splitting hairs, though.
The Spanish language term castellano (Castilian) may refer to the Spanish language as a whole, to the dialects spoken in central and northern Spain, OR to the medieval language which was a predecessor to modern Spanish.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castilian_Spanish

I've been to Spain and what they speak is Castilian Spanish, which is their dialect.
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My friend, I have a degree in Foreign Languages and I teach three languages at the moment. If you are wrong and have a hard time admiting it, then don't make judgments about people you don't know. When you learn "Spanish", that's almost literally the first thing you learn.

The most awkward thing is to read someone who has clearly no knowledge about your culture and still writes misconceptions about it as if they actually knew better than you about the place you live and the language you speak :/ If you think Galician is Spanish and Spanish is Castillian, then good for you, ignorance may be indeed bliss.
 
Today, the term "Castilian" is used in other ways too.
Sometimes it is used, not altogether accurately, to distinguish the Spanish of Spain from that of Latin America.
And sometimes it is used simply as a synonym for Spanish, especially when referring to the "pure" Spanish promulgated by the Royal Spanish Academy (which itself preferred the term castellano in its dictionaries until the 1920s).

The Spanish language is known routinely as castellano rather than español.
 
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Commander said:
Today, the term "Castilian" is used in other ways too.
Sometimes it is used, not altogether accurately, to distinguish the Spanish of Spain from that of Latin America.
And sometimes it is used simply as a synonym for Spanish, especially when referring to the "pure" Spanish promulgated by the Royal Spanish Academy (which itself preferred the term castellano in its dictionaries until the 1920s).

The Spanish language is known routinely as castellano rather than español.
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This is true yes. Hence why I wrote that Spanish is more of an umbrella term than anything else. You speak Castillian in central Spain, many linguistics refuse the term "Spanish" to classify it. It is true that has perhaps more of a cultural motivation to distinguish Spain from Latin America, that I won't deny for sure ;)
 
For reference, I speak Spanish and come from Spanish and Cuban descendants and lived my whole life speaking Spanish or better yet -castellano- (what is known as proper Spanish) with my family.
I'm not just some random dude that has no bearing on the culture or doesn't live in that culture.
 
Taj Gill said:
Nothing wrong with that, people are allowed to have respectful, intellectual conversations as long as it doesn't get out of hand.

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I didn't say that this is wrong, it was just an observation of things. And yeah sure nothing wrong with arguing over off topic threads.
 
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