Official Street Fighter Thread

Misucra said:
Dunno if it is from MKX bullshit or just I believe in SF so much. I don't even have game yet.

https://twitter.com/Yoshi_OnoChin/status/705916149964230656

THIS. How f$%king hard it is for NRS to do that?
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Ask their multi billion dollar boss who has their PR on lock
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BBBLP said:
Ask their multi billion dollar boss who has their PR on lock
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Good lock. Can't even say sorry. Basically NRS is like a miniature Soviet Union or Nazi Germany.

Or most likely they just don't give a shit. It's not the boss. Just NRS being a$$holes. It's not like it is the first time we get devs, being asses like that. War Z had similar devs. No sorry, no anything. Just rob you of your money, show you a middle finger and ignore you while you're trying to establish communication with them, over a broken product.

Btw didn't WB say that "we are also not happy with NRS decision"? I remember someone got in contact with WB here on forums and wrote their reply.

EDIT: Jesus H f%^king Christ. Went to Street Fighter thread and begun talking about NRS. Sorry guys. Last post like this. It seems that shit is still pissing me off. Especially when I see Street Fighter PR like this.
 
If we ever got a Street Fight vs Mortal Kombat how well do you think it will sell ? I would think that it would blow all of the other games out of the water in sells in my opinion. I know it may be a very long time till this ever happens. What do you think the amount of roster slots are in it if it happens ? The end result could be 20 MK characters and 20 SF characters. So that makes 40 characters total it wouldn't be that bad in my opinion.
 
MK vs SF will literally never happen. Nobody wants to see Chun Li get her legs ripped off, nobody wants to fight Scorpion with crossups.
 
No need to go to extremes.

In theory if MK vs SF were to happen, they would need to balance violence and gameplay. Is it possible? Of course it is. Just I don't think anybody will do that.

Instead of fatalities, you can have some brutal finishers (mix between ultra/critical art and fatalities). For example Juri doing her ultra from SF4 on Scorpion, but instead of just dropping him on the floor, she would "plant" him in the ground, and then brutally start stomping on his head until his head is buried underground, and like that would kill him. Or Cammy breaking the neck of Sonya. (hell she breaks necks on SFV). In short it is tough combination as SF is more of happy go fighting game and MK is more dark brutal world, but it is possible. Just would need to find perfect balance.
 
Neither can base would be happy, I promise you. That weak ass Soul Calibur style finish would not satisfy an MK fan. And gameplay itself is just a clusterfunk of problems.

Running or dashing?
Links or dial a combo?
Button block or hold back?
 
BBBLP said:
Neither can base would be happy, I promise you. That weak ass Soul Calibur style finish would not satisfy an MK fan. And gameplay itself is just a clusterfunk of problems.

Running or dashing?
Links or dial a combo?
Button block or hold back?
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Promises mean nothing to me. I can also promise you that it would be a hit and a top fighting game for years. Either it is some sort of physical example which SHOWS the result or it is just theories based on opinion.

And btw there is some sort of demand for this game to happen. But very small.

Also never played Soul Calibur, but I am 99.9% sure that what you imagined and what I see as "brutal finisher" are two separate things.

Running or dashing, links or dial a combo, button block or hold back.. what is this? I am supposed to believe that these things are holding SFvsMK from happening?

Stuff like this would be solved by spending some time next to drawing board. From my experience so far, there is no such game problem which cannot be solved with some hard work. With good devs, and good teamwork I believe they could find great solutions to all those problems.

Even so, I am just saying while the game is not impossible to make. It would require insane amount of effort to balance and make it good. And to be honest both Netherrealm and CAPCOM are in no position to do that... well unless there was a massive demand for that. Then maybe it could happen.

So I guess someone would just need to go Deadpool road, and make a demo of SF character vs MK character (in 3D).
 
The way you play both games is way too different, everything is basically the opposite in the other. Thats something you cant balance
 
asddgd said:
The way you play both games is way too different, everything is basically the opposite in the other. Thats something you cant balance
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You know, I am not a veteran in game development (been doing it only for 5 years), but I had enough moments of laughing my ass off, when someone says "You can't do this! It's impossible!" without even trying, while someone just goes and does it. So until proven physically. I am pretty positive it can be done. It is just a massive hard work.

Just because two things are opposite, doesn't mean you cannot merge them and create a new middle ground. And that is a must for something like this, because if you merge two games (doesn't matter opposite or not) you will always have to create a new system, which is exclusive to that combination.

So at least after small brain storming, the only way I see this game happening is, if only main elements were to be taken from both games and then incorporated into a new exclusive fighting system which would be made only for MKvSF. For example if we were to take main moves from both fighters. Like Cammy's and Sonya's and then integrated them into that new fighting system. They would use their iconic moves, but in unique new fashion.

As for SF being "family friendly" and MK being "family nightmare", you would just need to simply even out the violence. Cause one of the main reasons, why MKvsDC failed so hard, was because they went too much DC way. Ok I get it DC didn't want to see Superman beheaded. But making fighters feel like stuffed dolls was also stupid.

You can't have fatalities, as that would be too much MK, but you can't have those family friendly finishers as well. So what does one do? Simple (in theory). Make fighter bodies durable to damage (avoid making them look like flesh of bags which you can cut like tofu), but add some sort of bone breaking, impalement. Add xray effects. Don't add guts, or musles, but basically make it into xray blue flash (not cartoonish and not a cutscene), for when you hit with strong attack or combo, so a person would feel the satisfaction of destroying the opponent, but at the same time you wouldn't get that fragile body feeling like you do in MK.

Then create a finisher which incorporates both elements from MK and SF. Take out the "after match fatality" and make it so that you could only do a finisher during the fight. If you were to do a finisher mid fight, you just do a huge amount of damage, but if you do it, then opponent has low enough health to be finished by it, you would get a brutal finisher where, character would either break opponent's body, snap his neck, impale him, burn him etc.

Also there should be some blood. Not MK stupid amount, but enough to show that both get injured. Hell some NORMAL battle damage could do as well.

Just some quick ideas. I mean if both devs teams saw the possibility of that happening, then there is no reason to think it is impossible. Just very hard to accomplish and very risky too, because we have a lot of die hard fans on both sides, who tend to whine and cry about any small gameplay changes. Basically anything new is a taboo for them. According to them it must be either MK system or SF system. But don't you f%^king dare to make something new which unites both of them into one.

Fortunately there are also people who like to try new things, make new progress. The only problem is that a lot of them (like me) are skeptical about it happening due small demand and the difficulty of the task. Not to mention it would have to be two companies working on it. So it would be massive project. It wouldn't be like MKvsDC where Netherrrealm (well Midway back then) had the license and just did everything themselves.

Basically the only reason why I would want to see MKvsSF happening, would be because both of the games would have to move from their native platforms and reinvent their core mechanics, so they could match. Would be also a refreshing change for SF gameplay too.

Also now that I think. SF isn't really that much of family friendly. If you try to piece lore together, you could see that it is pretty dark too. Especially when it comes to Shadaloo. So making it darker wouldn't be so hard. Cammy's backstory is pretty gruesome (when she was Killer Bee), or hell Dolls themselves. They backstory is nothing, but disturbing. Killing their own parents, and then even after being rescued one of the dolls was left in vegetable state due massive psychological trauma. Take away pretty lights (censor), and you see a pretty messed up world.

In the end.. it is all just a theory. Unless someone makes (at least) a playable demo, we can speculate all we want. Maybe it could work, maybe it couldn't. Without any concrete physical example, we can't tell.
 
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theincubuslord said:
Street Fighter and Tekken play VERY differently from eachother, yet they are crossing with eachother.
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And that. While Tekken isn't that much of the opposite as MK, it still is a valid example. It had a lot of gameplay differences, yet incorporated them pretty successfully. Game only died, because of shitty dlc policy and bugs, net issues. Other than that it could have been a pretty successful game.
 
how the heck do ppl get 6k+ LP
I am at 4500 LP now and getting matched vs 1-2k LP players 70% of the time, 20% 3k LP players and rarely anyone 4k+ LP.
And I gotta say some of the 1k LP players are actually pretty good since some elite players just started playing ranked and if I lose = 100 LP gone
sometimes you face a laggy match = 100 LP gone
And I am winning 85%+ of my ranked matches
beating almost anyone in the 4-6K range most of the time except a few
If match making would actually work, but right now?
ye everyone can check my cfn lol but srsly

I swear if capcom would have reseted every RQ player
( atm approx 150 ppl did RQ vs me ) I would be at 6k LP as well, but atm its just a huge grindfest
 
Shirayuki Mizore said:
SFxT is my least favorite fighting game, it was pretty garbage. So I can't imagine a MKxSF game being any better.
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What a jaded way to look at clash-games. There are some good ones out there. Look at the Marvel VS Capcom series, for example. Capcom VS SNK as well. The Virtua Fighter characters in Dead or Alive 5 are always playing awesomely (then again, the two series are alot alike in terms of gameplay-system).

I found SFxT fun, but I do understand it wasn't very tournament friendly. Hopefully Tekken X Street Fighter will be though.
 
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