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Re: TylerLantern's new Kitana Combo Videos
Even Tom Brady's ice clone/ ex slide combo setups are taken from Tyler Lantern and Sub Zero's exhibitions from the DEMO version weeks ago, I know cause I USE THEM.
You guys need to get over it. You can't blindly use hokey philosophies in every situation, regardless of context, in the face of actual opposing evidence.
Even Tom Brady's ice clone/ ex slide combo setups are taken from Tyler Lantern and Sub Zero's exhibitions from the DEMO version weeks ago, I know cause I USE THEM.
They ARE pros. That's why they are so good after only 2 weeks. That's why they are playing in EVO qualifiers. Are you people serious?
You guys need to get over it. You can't blindly use hokey philosophies in every situation, regardless of context, in the face of actual opposing evidence.
So I'm pro then as well by your standards. I could hold my own against every player I've seen on the stream so far. And I'm attending the PDP tournament as well as Evo.
I value knowing mix ups, and knowing your character's style over how many combos you can pull off. In MK you can win with just sweeps and uppercuts. That isn't to say I haven't pushed Johnny to his limits. I know every combo possible with him, but only use the ones that fit in with my style.
FlawlessVictor
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Re: TylerLantern's new Kitana Combo Videos
It's not about how many fancy combos you can memorize, it's what you can apply effectively in a match. A win is a win, I don't see how "respect points" have to do with anything. Mix-ups are used the for practical purpose of confusing the opponent, showboating is not required.
It's not about how many fancy combos you can memorize, it's what you can apply effectively in a match. A win is a win, I don't see how "respect points" have to do with anything. Mix-ups are used the for practical purpose of confusing the opponent, showboating is not required.
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Re: TylerLantern's new Kitana Combo Videos
Nobody's saying you should watch these combos and try to duplicate them blow for blow regardless of situation. However to say that exhibition combos are worthless is downright silly. These combos are made by someone coming up with a good bread and butter combo, and then adding extenders to see what works. So elements of the combos can be added and removed to your own individual style and execution level.
In this MK this is especially true, since the execution level of these combos and extenders (launchers, dashing uppercuts) are much lower than games like SF4 (especially if you're playing on a pad). That's why even average players like me can come up with bread and butters longer than Spear> Uppercut. That's why I've practiced "tiering" my combos (basically making combos that, if I'm under pressure and get momentarily rattled, I can simply end with a strong finisher like an uppercut).
It's apparent to me that as skill level increases, being able to squeeze out more damage in a match will be crucial, cause you won't know when you'll get the chance again. Even if it's simply punishing a blocked special that leaves them open. You can't depend on using breakers all the time.
You can learn enough from exhibition combos to use in a real match, not just combo videos in practice mode.
That's great.
Nobody's saying you should watch these combos and try to duplicate them blow for blow regardless of situation. However to say that exhibition combos are worthless is downright silly. These combos are made by someone coming up with a good bread and butter combo, and then adding extenders to see what works. So elements of the combos can be added and removed to your own individual style and execution level.
In this MK this is especially true, since the execution level of these combos and extenders (launchers, dashing uppercuts) are much lower than games like SF4 (especially if you're playing on a pad). That's why even average players like me can come up with bread and butters longer than Spear> Uppercut. That's why I've practiced "tiering" my combos (basically making combos that, if I'm under pressure and get momentarily rattled, I can simply end with a strong finisher like an uppercut).
It's apparent to me that as skill level increases, being able to squeeze out more damage in a match will be crucial, cause you won't know when you'll get the chance again. Even if it's simply punishing a blocked special that leaves them open. You can't depend on using breakers all the time.
You can learn enough from exhibition combos to use in a real match, not just combo videos in practice mode.
Demetrius
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Re: TylerLantern's new Kitana Combo Videos
Fair enough then.
I can actually, and there's nothing you can do to stop me
Yes, this is true; and not very often are you going to be able to apply those to an actual match.
Respect Points are for acheivments, but those aren't the respect points I'm talking about. I garrentee you, anyone who is going to be playing this game after Gears of War 3/ the next big thing for the PS3 are going to enjoy fighting people who actually know how to do more than 95% combos.
Imagine waiting for thirty minutes to play the game; you boot up the game, practice for a good ten minutes, and have to continually search and find games for another 20. You find a game, and OH NOES! the dude your fighting just pulled off 95% of your life. Thirty minutes, ten seconds. Real fun.
Fair enough then.
I can actually, and there's nothing you can do to stop me
Yes, this is true; and not very often are you going to be able to apply those to an actual match.
Respect Points are for acheivments, but those aren't the respect points I'm talking about. I garrentee you, anyone who is going to be playing this game after Gears of War 3/ the next big thing for the PS3 are going to enjoy fighting people who actually know how to do more than 95% combos.
Imagine waiting for thirty minutes to play the game; you boot up the game, practice for a good ten minutes, and have to continually search and find games for another 20. You find a game, and OH NOES! the dude your fighting just pulled off 95% of your life. Thirty minutes, ten seconds. Real fun.
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FlawlessVictor
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Re: TylerLantern's new Kitana Combo Videos
Please rephrase, because this is not making any sense.
If those big combos are avoidable it's fair game.
Please rephrase, because this is not making any sense.
If those big combos are avoidable it's fair game.
LoseifyYou
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Re: TylerLantern's new Kitana Combo Videos
Wow, where do I start with these guys? lol
If you watch ANY of TylerLantern's videos, and I do mean ANY of his MK9 combos, you will see that never once does he use more than 3 Enhancement Bars. If that were the case, he would have well over 100% combos easily. If you guys knew what you were talking about, you would KNOW by watching the video that he does not use more than 3 Bars in any given combo and comments like "He is using infinite meter!" would not happen.
Its not that he is afraid of it, its that it has actually happened more than once in the past when he did not put his name at the bottom of the video. I actually found one of the guys doing it and told him about it. Its not rediculous at all. What if someone took credit for something you worked hard on, whether it was a video game or not, that doesn't matter. What matters is that time and work is put into these videos and for someone to steal it is stupid.
Lastly, this statement blows my mind. Anyone who is familiar with the MK community knows that TylerLantern won alot of tournaments in MK VS DC Universe, and he is definately a pro.
Sorry for the rant guys, but I was raised to give credit and respect where it is due, and even though it truly IS just a video game, this guy deserves credit and respect. Some of you say "Oh, he is just doing the same thing over and over in the Kitana videos", but its an Enhanced Fan Throw loop, its supposed to be the same thing over and over, and then the end gets very stylish and bangs out 60%+ damage. If you watch all of the combos on this guys page, even combos from the demo, you will see his knowledge of the combo system in MK is that of god like status.
Wow, where do I start with these guys? lol
If you watch ANY of TylerLantern's videos, and I do mean ANY of his MK9 combos, you will see that never once does he use more than 3 Enhancement Bars. If that were the case, he would have well over 100% combos easily. If you guys knew what you were talking about, you would KNOW by watching the video that he does not use more than 3 Bars in any given combo and comments like "He is using infinite meter!" would not happen.
Its not that he is afraid of it, its that it has actually happened more than once in the past when he did not put his name at the bottom of the video. I actually found one of the guys doing it and told him about it. Its not rediculous at all. What if someone took credit for something you worked hard on, whether it was a video game or not, that doesn't matter. What matters is that time and work is put into these videos and for someone to steal it is stupid.
Lastly, this statement blows my mind. Anyone who is familiar with the MK community knows that TylerLantern won alot of tournaments in MK VS DC Universe, and he is definately a pro.
Sorry for the rant guys, but I was raised to give credit and respect where it is due, and even though it truly IS just a video game, this guy deserves credit and respect. Some of you say "Oh, he is just doing the same thing over and over in the Kitana videos", but its an Enhanced Fan Throw loop, its supposed to be the same thing over and over, and then the end gets very stylish and bangs out 60%+ damage. If you watch all of the combos on this guys page, even combos from the demo, you will see his knowledge of the combo system in MK is that of god like status.
Yeah you lost me there. Not to be mean but that's kinda sad. Dude knows how to string moves together =/= "god like status." Shows how much time he has on his hands, sure. Nothing god like, though.
LoseifyYou
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Re: TylerLantern's new Kitana Combo Videos
I said his knowledge of combos is god like. Like I have said before, if everyone could do it, they would. Like in the "Your Highest Combo?" thread, 95% of those guys hitting around 50% damage as thier highest combos. And just because he posts these videos does not mean he has too much time on his hands. It simply means he likes doing what he is doing. If someone has a problem with that, they are just jealous.
I said his knowledge of combos is god like. Like I have said before, if everyone could do it, they would. Like in the "Your Highest Combo?" thread, 95% of those guys hitting around 50% damage as thier highest combos. And just because he posts these videos does not mean he has too much time on his hands. It simply means he likes doing what he is doing. If someone has a problem with that, they are just jealous.
Viking_Poodle
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Re: TylerLantern's new Kitana Combo Videos
Woah! You're so adamant about defending him! Are you him? Anyways. That's all well and good..But like I said, it's a combo.. In a game. It doesn't count towards ANYTHING. He does great combos yeah. And? I honestly would not care in the slightest if someone took one of my combo videos. It's a god damn combo. In a game. It's not something you really have to work HARD on. If you know how the game works, it's easy. It's like getting pissed about someone stealing your About Me on here. Okay maybe a little different, but you get the idea. Regardless, he's a great player and an all around nice guy (I've talked to him). Just a little over protective imo, but that's his thing.
Woah! You're so adamant about defending him! Are you him? Anyways. That's all well and good..But like I said, it's a combo.. In a game. It doesn't count towards ANYTHING. He does great combos yeah. And? I honestly would not care in the slightest if someone took one of my combo videos. It's a god damn combo. In a game. It's not something you really have to work HARD on. If you know how the game works, it's easy. It's like getting pissed about someone stealing your About Me on here. Okay maybe a little different, but you get the idea. Regardless, he's a great player and an all around nice guy (I've talked to him). Just a little over protective imo, but that's his thing.
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CrashLantern
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Whats up Viking? No, he is not me. LoseifyYou, I appreciate you having my back, but chill. Getting that worked up over all this is really not worth it. If someone down talks me or my videos, just ignore them. I know you respect me and what I do and that means alot, but don't feel like you have to defend me all the time. There will always be haters, and haters are going to hate. Like I said, just ignore it.
To everyone else, if you like my videos, that great and I appreciate the support. If you don't like my videos, then don't click a thread with my name in it and watch them, its that simple. I do these combos to help the average MK player learn something, and if they learn, great, if they don't, at least they got to see a well thought out combo. Anyways, keep watching and I will keep posting. Later.
Demetrius
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Re: TylerLantern's new Kitana Combo Videos
I suggest you reread it, because it's not that hard to comprehend.
You have to avoid those combos every time, they have to get those combos off once. They are hardly avoidable.
Are they fair game? Yes. Are they good? Yes. Do they make people want to play against you? No.
And eventually your going to run out of people to play against.
I suggest you reread it, because it's not that hard to comprehend.
You have to avoid those combos every time, they have to get those combos off once. They are hardly avoidable.
Are they fair game? Yes. Are they good? Yes. Do they make people want to play against you? No.
And eventually your going to run out of people to play against.
Vulcan Hades
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What's up with all the whining. This thread used to be about posting videos not whine about stuff.
Who cares if crap players don't wanna play with me because I'm good. The less scrubs I encounter online the better.
Who cares if crap players don't wanna play with me because I'm good. The less scrubs I encounter online the better.
BBBLP
Robot Rock
What's up with all the whining. This thread used to be about posting videos not whine about stuff.
Who cares if crap players don't wanna play with me because I'm good. The less scrubs I encounter online the better.
Notice the bold white above their comments, they were arguing in a different thread that got merged.
Vulcan Hades
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Oh yeah, that nasty Kitana combo. That shit is just wack lol.
I do hope they nerf her a bit or make the loop impossible to repeat. No character should have 50-60% meterless/midscreen combos imo.
I do hope they nerf her a bit or make the loop impossible to repeat. No character should have 50-60% meterless/midscreen combos imo.
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LoseifyYou
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See, this is what I am talking about...I am not trying to be offensive, but some people lol...Wow...If you knew ANYTHING about this game Vulcan Hades, you would see that the Kitana loop you are talking about is not METERLESS. Every time you do the loop, it takes a meter. Thats why it is done 3 times in the combo, therefore using 3 meters, therefore being a legit combo. People who can not tell when an Enhanced Bar is being used should not be giving opinions on what should be nerfed. Just WOW.